Do you pay attention to Obama?

Obama is a ****** ( not a black man). He is a lying piece of shit but has a command of the English language that would be hard to rival by anyone. He's probably better than Slick Willie ( another ******, albeit white)
He can also read a teleprompter as well as Jimi Hendrix could play guitar.

Man Dougie..you are a downer..ain't ya?:eusa_shhh:
NOOP. Realist.

Just curious do you view Cheney the same way?
 
No. I refuse to listen to people as he that has fucked up so many people's lives by thier actions...and this includes a majority of politicians that are in this for themselves and/or thier parties over thier country.

He doesn't think he fucked up enough people. :) He think everyone but him has to stop playing politics. We'll see upcoming speech where he's going to present his job plan... of course, that will be only thing he knows, more spending presented as "investment", then will blame Republicans when they don't pass it.

Beside, that "job speech" before joint session isn't about jobs or bipartisanship, it's kicking of his reelection campaign on national level. What else?
 
From some recent reading I've been doing, I wonder who actually pays attention to Obama.

People who appear to have voted for him don't seem to know some things I consider common knowledge. For example, people are called racist for saying that Obama benefited from affirmative action. It's suggested that they're lying for saying so. But Obama himself said it.

On the other hand, people who didn't vote for him might not have the incentive to listen that closely to what he says - but I actually do pay attention to him even though I don't like him much and sometimes joke about wishing there was an Ignore button for him. (Had a favorable impression of him when he first hit the national scene in 2004, and like that he seems to be a good father, but strongly dislike most of what I've learned about him since 2007.)


So, do you actually pay attention to Obama?

If you're a cheerleader for him, do you cheer mostly on principle, or do you study what he says first?

If you're "against everything he stands for", are you against it because you assumed it was bull, or do you study what he says first?

If you're in the middle, are you there because you're a cynic in general or because you listen to him and still can't decide.


... or sumpin like that.

Just throwing things out. Not trying to capture every possible direction people might be coming from.



Do you listen to his speeches? Have you read his autobiographies? Do you know which he did first - community organizer or law school? Do you know his record as a politician in Illinois? Do you know his record in the U.S. Senate? Etc.


If none of the above, do you still dive in and talk about him?


I Payed attention as he spoke in Detroit today, and was appalled at the Partisan Rhetoric he was spewing.
 
From some recent reading I've been doing, I wonder who actually pays attention to Obama.

People who appear to have voted for him don't seem to know some things I consider common knowledge. For example, people are called racist for saying that Obama benefited from affirmative action. It's suggested that they're lying for saying so. But Obama himself said it.

On the other hand, people who didn't vote for him might not have the incentive to listen that closely to what he says - but I actually do pay attention to him even though I don't like him much and sometimes joke about wishing there was an Ignore button for him. (Had a favorable impression of him when he first hit the national scene in 2004, and like that he seems to be a good father, but strongly dislike most of what I've learned about him since 2007.)


So, do you actually pay attention to Obama?

If you're a cheerleader for him, do you cheer mostly on principle, or do you study what he says first?

If you're "against everything he stands for", are you against it because you assumed it was bull, or do you study what he says first?

If you're in the middle, are you there because you're a cynic in general or because you listen to him and still can't decide.


... or sumpin like that.

Just throwing things out. Not trying to capture every possible direction people might be coming from.



Do you listen to his speeches? Have you read his autobiographies? Do you know which he did first - community organizer or law school? Do you know his record as a politician in Illinois? Do you know his record in the U.S. Senate? Etc.


If none of the above, do you still dive in and talk about him?


I Payed attention as he spoke in Detroit today, and was appalled at the Partisan Rhetoric he was spewing.
Have I heard calls for violence?
 
Not only do I pay attention but I can read the play before he receives the snap most times.

He QB's like he throws a baseball.
 
I pay attention, because its amazing how many bold faced lies I catch him in every time he speaks. Yes the guy is hyper literate, but comes off as the most contrived politician in American politics..everything from the "let me be clear", to the finger point and smile...the guy is a con man.

He has no policy achievements...even with Bin Laden, what did he do policy wise that led to the result of Bin Laden's killing? Nothing..Finding Bin Laden was a result of a ten year search by the CIA...there is no evidence that Obama did anything to ramp up efforts to get him, otherwise we would have heard about it surely....Did he give the order to have him killed? Yea, but who the fuck wouldn't have?

The fact of the matter is ordinary people who don't follow the ins and out of politics look at things very simplistically...they see Bin laden killed on Obama's watch...the only thing for the opposition can do is give him credit and move on, even though he doesn't deserve credit...Its really a shame, because the guy has been a disaster of foreign policy.

He has made horrific mistakes with Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, and Israel just to name a few.

His signature so-called success Obamacare, will be repealed after the GOP picks up enough seats in November to override his veto, and if it doesn't get repealed than it surely will in 2012, but just in case it doesn't the supreme court will rule 5 to 4 that its unconstitutional.

He's responsible for the biggest party turnover of seats in a November election in a generation...By March he would have spent more than any other president who served two terms, in less than one....He's added more to the federal debt than any president, combing from Washington to Regan...For all his spending, are there any superb landmarks or state parks we can take pride in as a result? No, there's nothing.

To be fair he inherited so many things from Bush, like a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit (don't you know the only solution is to triple it?), 7.6% unemployment, and that ever so burdensome AAA ratting.

The guy could possibly hate America, or the guy just doesn't understand America...In any case, he must go.
 
Ame®icano;4097443 said:
No. I refuse to listen to people as he that has fucked up so many people's lives by thier actions...and this includes a majority of politicians that are in this for themselves and/or thier parties over thier country.

He doesn't think he fucked up enough people. :) He think everyone but him has to stop playing politics. We'll see upcoming speech where he's going to present his job plan... of course, that will be only thing he knows, more spending presented as "investment", then will blame Republicans when they don't pass it.

Beside, that "job speech" before joint session isn't about jobs or bipartisanship, it's kicking of his reelection campaign on national level. What else?
That's all this is. More government, more blame.

He forgets November 2010 when the people asked the Republicans to stop him at every turn.
 
From some recent reading I've been doing, I wonder who actually pays attention to Obama.

People who appear to have voted for him don't seem to know some things I consider common knowledge. For example, people are called racist for saying that Obama benefited from affirmative action. It's suggested that they're lying for saying so. But Obama himself said it.

On the other hand, people who didn't vote for him might not have the incentive to listen that closely to what he says - but I actually do pay attention to him even though I don't like him much and sometimes joke about wishing there was an Ignore button for him. (Had a favorable impression of him when he first hit the national scene in 2004, and like that he seems to be a good father, but strongly dislike most of what I've learned about him since 2007.)


So, do you actually pay attention to Obama?

If you're a cheerleader for him, do you cheer mostly on principle, or do you study what he says first?

If you're "against everything he stands for", are you against it because you assumed it was bull, or do you study what he says first?

If you're in the middle, are you there because you're a cynic in general or because you listen to him and still can't decide.


... or sumpin like that.

Just throwing things out. Not trying to capture every possible direction people might be coming from.



Do you listen to his speeches? Have you read his autobiographies? Do you know which he did first - community organizer or law school? Do you know his record as a politician in Illinois? Do you know his record in the U.S. Senate? Etc.


If none of the above, do you still dive in and talk about him?


I agree with one person that said this to me. We should bundle up every single speech that Obama has ever given and start using them as an enhanced interrogation method on terrorist suspects. Because after listening to these perfectly pronounced speeches basically stating the same things over and over and over again--like he has done for the last 3-1/2 years is absolute torture to many of us. Especially knowing that not one single repeated plan he has stated--has worked to create a private sector job in this country.

So do I "listen to Barack Obama anymore?"---ABSOLUTELY NOT--because at this point in time I can recite what he is going to say before he says it. Therefore, I will read the transcript.

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Why pay attention.It's basically the same speech.
I didn't cause this,It's the prior administrations fault.
It's the failed policies of the prior administration.
I didn't drive the car in the ditch.
I didn't drive the car in the ditch,but when they called me to pull the car out....
Man that one went on for weeks with the ditch.
MSNBC got the memo from the WH on their speaking points because they used that term on and on.
I kinda tune this guy out because it's the same stuff over and over.Blame everyone else.Nothing is his fault.
 
I've watched him pretty carefully. There are policy decisions he's made I like and don't like.

But I find discussion sorta impossible because of the hyperbole, bigotry and racism.

Personally? What I liked?

Lots of things..most notably passing a health care package, getting rid of torture, saving american jobs, private sector job growth and killing Osama Bin Laden.

What I didn't like? Extending the Bush tax cuts, signing the patriot act renewal, not getting out of Afghanistan, and not closing gitmo.

All those things are impossible to discuss with rightwingers.
Probably because what you like is a bunch of spineless socialist acts. What you do not like is American values. By the way, where are the jobs? Obamaturd has done nothing on the job front. The stimulus was and is a failure, socialized healthcare stinks, and who cares if terrorists get water boarded, not torture, to save American lives. Not liking his policies is not racist, that is just idiot talk for lefties who have no argument.
 
Some of us do, yes.


Sometimes I really badly want a break from him but (a) he might actually do something which affects me and (b) I want to be able to hold my own in discussions about him.
 

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