Do you miss W like I do?

Now, why don't you play Devil's Advocate and try to imagine just why Bush did the things he did?

But leave out the part where you ascribe only evil intentions to his motivations.

No one is all eveil.

No one is all good.

Everyone is a mixture of both good and bad qualities as well as a million other things as well.

Try to imagine that Bush did what he did to HELP AMERICA and AMERICANS.

As opposed to Eboma who does what he does with an eye to how he can benefit from every good or bad event.

Like Rahm Emannuel pointed out to the Obama people: 'You never let a serious crisis go to waste.'

If you are neither an American nor an America loving Yankophile you can be excused for not being able to imagine Bush as possibly being well intentioned.

I think Bush meant well, I have no doubt about that.

But his was still a lousy presidency.

.

Does he have to play golf and basketball and sing Al Green to win your approval???

After all, he DID save us from global thermonuclear war.

He DID save us from a debilitating oil crisis.

He DID prevent chaos in global economies as well as our own.

God dammit man!

What the fuck more would he have to do to get your thanks???

Fuckin ingrate.

Holy crap.

I'm just looking at the results, that's all.

I do wonder, however, if you would be so flexible if a President with a (D) after his name had left the same conditions behind.

Just kidding, I don't wonder about that.

.

If you are insinuating I wouldn't, haven't or couldn't support a well qualified honest America loving POTUS, you are wrong.

Just goes to show how ill informed and unobservant you are.

I LOVE AMERICA!

America is my cause. My client. My love. My passion on these boards.

It is our lifeboat protecting us from the world's waves of incivility and violence and chaos which could drown us and the sharks which want to consume us.

It is all we have.

We can't jeopardize it with the antics you guiys propose.

We are suffering greatly from too much Progressivism as it is and you say the only cure to this Eboma nightmnare is MORE Progressivism?

No.
No.
No.

The country is saying No.

And you don't have to take MY word for it, though you will soon see (or, as usual, be blindered to the fact) that I am right.

Anyone in the office who does right by America and Americans will have no problems from me.

When will you guys offer up someone for election who isn't prohibitively flawed "credentially", ideologically and/or morally and ethically?

I ALWAYS support the POTUS, no matter WHO wins!!!

Until they show me they don't deserve my support.

It's not that I diss every Demo POTUS.

It's just that this one is just so GODDAMNED WRONG for the job and for this country.

And you are too proud or egomaniacal to recognize it.

Rush pointed out why he hoped Eboma would fail.

Because only if he failed would this country have a chance to avoid the predictable and preventable pitfalls of his alien Progressive agenda.

You are being 100% intellectually dishonest. There is absolutely no way you'd ever support anyone who didn't have a "R" after his name. And we have all your post to prove it.
There are some of us who aren't absolutely not married to any political party and you aren't one of them.

I can understand why you'd doubt me.

It's because you are the kind of person you accuse me of being.

Libs commonly put Party before country.

I'm not doing that, nor would I.

But there's one Democrat who comes to mind who I respect and like a great deal.

Joe Lieberman.

I'd have voted for Joe Lieberman.

What a guy!
 
Let's be clear: You think W SHOULD have allowed Israel to defend herself against Saddam's WMD bluff???

How strange.

They could neither confirm nor deny the WMD's but we DO know that Iran respected their mutual border and that is why Saddam floated that bluff in the speech alluded to by FBI interrogator, George Piro.

He wanted to prevent Iran from attacking.

His bluff worked. The Iranians did not attack again after the end of their bloody 10 year war which claimed more than 1,000,000 lives.

So that was even more reason to believe the WMD's existed.

That belief was validated this past week with news that Karl Rove advised W not to publicize the WMD's found circa 2005.

Thus, having to take it seriously, the Israelis were not going to stand for an Iraqi WMD 'Sword of Damocles' hanging over their necks threatening existential elimination.

When have you ever known the Israelis to take that sort of thing lying down?

They DON'T.

Nor should they.tolerate an Iraqi WMD 'Sword of Damocles' hanging over their necks threatening existential elimination of millions of Jews AND Muslims AND CHRISTIANS and others.

You wouldn't stand for it.

JFK didn't stand for nuclear missiles in Cuba which could strike any of our major East Coast and Southern cities. I remember almost peeing my pants and stinking my pants walking the mile back home from school. Even as a little seven year old Mojo2 I knew what was at stake in the Cuban Missile Crisis.

So, Israel WOULD have been forced to attack Iraq without any outward signs of provocation.

And you think this would have been a good thing???

So, do you think Israel should have been allowed to attack Iraq in self defense?
Israel's self defense is Israel's concern.
I can understand why you'd doubt me.

It's because you are the kind of person you accuse me of being.

Libs commonly put Party before country.

I'm not doing that, nor would I.

But there's one Democrat who comes to mind who I respect and like a great deal.

Joe Lieberman.

I'd have voted for Joe Lieberman.

What a guy!
Hell of a big government liberal, hell of a guy, thinks US foreign policy should be made in Tel Aviv.

If you are insinuating I wouldn't, haven't or couldn't support a well qualified honest America loving POTUS, you are wrong.

Just goes to show how ill informed and unobservant you are.

I LOVE AMERICA!

America is my cause. My client. My love. My passion on these boards.
No, your primary concern is with a little ethnocentric socialist state on the shores of the eastern Mediterranean.
 
Might check the historians rating ten years from now and see how little they change. In fact, they do change, but not much. The ratings began in 1948 and it's interesting to see how little change there has been over the years. Bush may climb to sixth worst president or even seventh, as new presidents are added, but for now he's rated a loser, and he will probably be at the bottom of the heap even fifty years from now.
Are you talking about the same historians that had Reagan in the basement? obama is sure to boost ole George's ratings.
 
Do you miss W like I do?

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Whoda thunk we'd be wishing for W just 6 short years later?

But I proudly admit I'm a Bushy fan.

Do you miss W like I do?

:)

Let my mind wander, and it hasn't gotten back yet.

Miss his daddy more. Bush senior, Papa Bush, Big Bush (hmm what dya call a big bush, a hedge?) President Hedge that's it! :)
 
I pointed out as historians will do that IN SPITE of not only 9/11 but the recession, the dot.com bust that cost $5 trillion plus 400,000 jobs and then we had the WORST hurricane SEASONS... not just one hurricane but 6 of the top ten worst hurricanes!
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

There were deaths, $1 trillion in losses and again NOT ONE president has ever had that happen.
Coupled with 9/11 again historians will say Bush not only helped the country SURVIVE these events but we thrived!
GWB had the Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

So with these FACTS alone and NOT your wild exaggerated GUESSES I am 100% confident Bush will be considered a GREAT President that in spite of these 4 gigantic events occurring he kept the USA stable. Kept the economy going. Kept people working and obviously all the while NOT opening his mouth ONE time in complaining about our military killing civilians as Obama has done. Or calling police stupid. Or playing golf minutes after a beheading! These are the FACTs and you can NOT refute any of them.

The problem is a president's reign doesn't mean everything they did just stops. Just because they can't take office again. Imagine there were a 5 year term of office and not 4. Bush won in 2000 and then again in 2005. He left office in 2010. All of a sudden the statistics would have changed massively.

You can't separate the economy now with Bush's reign in office. You can have parts that are influenced by Obama, parts influenced by Bush, and also parts that are just natural and have nothing much to do with either.

The same for Bush's reign. Parts were Clinton, parts were Bush and parts just natural.

However I'd say Bush had more of an impact on the economy, and it was a negative impact mostly, than Obama has had.

But just pure "these were the stats when he took office and these are the stats when he left office" don't tell me anything much.
 
Oh, yeah, Saddam and Israel started it all, hmmm......

Dispute it with facts and/or reason, not your equivalent of rolled eyes.

So please explain why i'm supposed to be different to everyone else on this board.

Because you will LOOK better if you do.

And we all know how much importance liberals and Progressives place on appearances.

Right?

You know how often I back stuff up, make a decent argument with sources only to see the moron on the other end make a one or two line sentence with a couple of insults and the inability to respond?

Too many.

Fixed that fer ya.

You try to insinuate you are knowledgable and that people should listen to your political opinions when you won't even read a thread with the answers you say you want me to supply.

Well, I already have.

Just read what's there and see if you can figure it out.

I wrote it with the expectation you'd be able to follow along.

And I have either misunderestimated you or you just won't read.

Liberals are often persistently ignorant.

That's the main problem I have with them.

They won't read or study THE THINGS WE DISCUSS HERE. Then when someone who DOES read and study tries to educate them they revert back to their default position.

Ignorance.

And not just ignorance, but DEFIANT ignorance!

They dispute your facts with just bullshit and won't even bother to inform themselves of the truth.

I won't go back through threads looking for where someone may or may not have said something. If you think I have the time and energy for that, then I'm sorry but you're misguided. I will spend the time and energy making my own point.

But what pees me off is when people tell me I don't do this or that, when to be honest, almost all of the board doesn't do that, and get into ridiculous little spats with people who have no intention of making any effort, and I do and will make the effort, but not when it's chasing people around the board.

One guy constantly said "go read this post or that post", no, I will not do your work for you.

If you want to try and convince me, then convince me. If not, so be it.
 
I think Bush meant well, I have no doubt about that.

But his was still a lousy presidency.

.

Does he have to play golf and basketball and sing Al Green to win your approval???

After all, he DID save us from global thermonuclear war.

He DID save us from a debilitating oil crisis.

He DID prevent chaos in global economies as well as our own.

God dammit man!

What the fuck more would he have to do to get your thanks???

Fuckin ingrate.

Holy crap.

I'm just looking at the results, that's all.

I do wonder, however, if you would be so flexible if a President with a (D) after his name had left the same conditions behind.

Just kidding, I don't wonder about that.

.

If you are insinuating I wouldn't, haven't or couldn't support a well qualified honest America loving POTUS, you are wrong.

Just goes to show how ill informed and unobservant you are.

I LOVE AMERICA!

America is my cause. My client. My love. My passion on these boards.

It is our lifeboat protecting us from the world's waves of incivility and violence and chaos which could drown us and the sharks which want to consume us.

It is all we have.

We can't jeopardize it with the antics you guiys propose.

We are suffering greatly from too much Progressivism as it is and you say the only cure to this Eboma nightmnare is MORE Progressivism?

No.
No.
No.

The country is saying No.

And you don't have to take MY word for it, though you will soon see (or, as usual, be blindered to the fact) that I am right.

Anyone in the office who does right by America and Americans will have no problems from me.

When will you guys offer up someone for election who isn't prohibitively flawed "credentially", ideologically and/or morally and ethically?

I ALWAYS support the POTUS, no matter WHO wins!!!

Until they show me they don't deserve my support.

It's not that I diss every Demo POTUS.

It's just that this one is just so GODDAMNED WRONG for the job and for this country.

And you are too proud or egomaniacal to recognize it.

Rush pointed out why he hoped Eboma would fail.

Because only if he failed would this country have a chance to avoid the predictable and preventable pitfalls of his alien Progressive agenda.

You are being 100% intellectually dishonest. There is absolutely no way you'd ever support anyone who didn't have a "R" after his name. And we have all your post to prove it.
There are some of us who aren't absolutely not married to any political party and you aren't one of them.

I can understand why you'd doubt me.

It's because you are the kind of person you accuse me of being.

Libs commonly put Party before country.

I'm not doing that, nor would I.

But there's one Democrat who comes to mind who I respect and like a great deal.

Joe Lieberman.

I'd have voted for Joe Lieberman.

What a guy!

No. I'm honest.
I have voted for many Republicans and I have posted on these boards support for the Keystone pipeline, stricter abortion laws, opposition to Obamacare (I was actually one of the first ones to oppose it) and several times I have posted my disappointment with Obama and the Dems. But, I also think the GOP is a huge failure too, I think the GOP is too far to the right and the Dems are too far to the left. As a matter of fact. I think both parties suck, which I have posted a multitude of times.
Also, I know you absolutely love Rush Limbaugh but I truly believe that Rush, Hannity, Schultz, Maddow and just about every hyper-partisan blog/new resource are guilty of the wide division and hate in this country. In my view (and Psychology Today), the very gullible and easily manipulated are being used a tools by these dividers. This certainly is not good for the United States. Every great leader has known that a country moves forward and tackles it's problems successfully when it's united, not separated.
Mojo, you are all about party over country. Again , your posts prove that point.
Successful corporation/companies became that way by considering different approaches and use a variety of ideas to reach their goal. There's usually a compromise of ideas. But with you and other ideologues (from the left and right), it's either their ideologies way or no way. Now that's a way to failure as our recent history has shown. With no good and honest communication and compromise, the US has been brought to a standstill The world in some cases is passing us by and in many cases the world is catching up.
 
I think Bush meant well, I have no doubt about that.

But his was still a lousy presidency.

.

Does he have to play golf and basketball and sing Al Green to win your approval???

After all, he DID save us from global thermonuclear war.

He DID save us from a debilitating oil crisis.

He DID prevent chaos in global economies as well as our own.

God dammit man!

What the fuck more would he have to do to get your thanks???

Fuckin ingrate.

Holy crap.

I'm just looking at the results, that's all.

I do wonder, however, if you would be so flexible if a President with a (D) after his name had left the same conditions behind.

Just kidding, I don't wonder about that.

.

If you are insinuating I wouldn't, haven't or couldn't support a well qualified honest America loving POTUS, you are wrong.

Just goes to show how ill informed and unobservant you are.

I LOVE AMERICA!

America is my cause. My client. My love. My passion on these boards.

It is our lifeboat protecting us from the world's waves of incivility and violence and chaos which could drown us and the sharks which want to consume us.

It is all we have.

We can't jeopardize it with the antics you guiys propose.

We are suffering greatly from too much Progressivism as it is and you say the only cure to this Eboma nightmnare is MORE Progressivism?

No.
No.
No.

The country is saying No.

And you don't have to take MY word for it, though you will soon see (or, as usual, be blindered to the fact) that I am right.

Anyone in the office who does right by America and Americans will have no problems from me.

When will you guys offer up someone for election who isn't prohibitively flawed "credentially", ideologically and/or morally and ethically?

I ALWAYS support the POTUS, no matter WHO wins!!!

Until they show me they don't deserve my support.

It's not that I diss every Demo POTUS.

It's just that this one is just so GODDAMNED WRONG for the job and for this country.

And you are too proud or egomaniacal to recognize it.

Rush pointed out why he hoped Eboma would fail.

Because only if he failed would this country have a chance to avoid the predictable and preventable pitfalls of his alien Progressive agenda.

You are being 100% intellectually dishonest. There is absolutely no way you'd ever support anyone who didn't have a "R" after his name. And we have all your post to prove it.
There are some of us who aren't absolutely not married to any political party and you aren't one of them.

I can understand why you'd doubt me.

It's because you are the kind of person you accuse me of being.

Libs commonly put Party before country.

I'm not doing that, nor would I.

But there's one Democrat who comes to mind who I respect and like a great deal.

Joe Lieberman.

I'd have voted for Joe Lieberman.

What a guy!
Did you vote for Lieberman for Vice President?
 
I pointed out as historians will do that IN SPITE of not only 9/11 but the recession, the dot.com bust that cost $5 trillion plus 400,000 jobs and then we had the WORST hurricane SEASONS... not just one hurricane but 6 of the top ten worst hurricanes!
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

There were deaths, $1 trillion in losses and again NOT ONE president has ever had that happen.
Coupled with 9/11 again historians will say Bush not only helped the country SURVIVE these events but we thrived!
GWB had the Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

So with these FACTS alone and NOT your wild exaggerated GUESSES I am 100% confident Bush will be considered a GREAT President that in spite of these 4 gigantic events occurring he kept the USA stable. Kept the economy going. Kept people working and obviously all the while NOT opening his mouth ONE time in complaining about our military killing civilians as Obama has done. Or calling police stupid. Or playing golf minutes after a beheading! These are the FACTs and you can NOT refute any of them.

The problem is a president's reign doesn't mean everything they did just stops. Just because they can't take office again. Imagine there were a 5 year term of office and not 4. Bush won in 2000 and then again in 2005. He left office in 2010. All of a sudden the statistics would have changed massively.

You can't separate the economy now with Bush's reign in office. You can have parts that are influenced by Obama, parts influenced by Bush, and also parts that are just natural and have nothing much to do with either.

The same for Bush's reign. Parts were Clinton, parts were Bush and parts just natural.

However I'd say Bush had more of an impact on the economy, and it was a negative impact mostly, than Obama has had.

But just pure "these were the stats when he took office and these are the stats when he left office" don't tell me anything much.
Conservatives are freaks. They tell us Reagan's economy lasted through 1999 ... but then they tell us Bush's economy lasted only until January 20th, 2009.
 
I pointed out as historians will do that IN SPITE of not only 9/11 but the recession, the dot.com bust that cost $5 trillion plus 400,000 jobs and then we had the WORST hurricane SEASONS... not just one hurricane but 6 of the top ten worst hurricanes!
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

There were deaths, $1 trillion in losses and again NOT ONE president has ever had that happen.
Coupled with 9/11 again historians will say Bush not only helped the country SURVIVE these events but we thrived!
GWB had the Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

So with these FACTS alone and NOT your wild exaggerated GUESSES I am 100% confident Bush will be considered a GREAT President that in spite of these 4 gigantic events occurring he kept the USA stable. Kept the economy going. Kept people working and obviously all the while NOT opening his mouth ONE time in complaining about our military killing civilians as Obama has done. Or calling police stupid. Or playing golf minutes after a beheading! These are the FACTs and you can NOT refute any of them.

The problem is a president's reign doesn't mean everything they did just stops. Just because they can't take office again. Imagine there were a 5 year term of office and not 4. Bush won in 2000 and then again in 2005. He left office in 2010. All of a sudden the statistics would have changed massively.

You can't separate the economy now with Bush's reign in office. You can have parts that are influenced by Obama, parts influenced by Bush, and also parts that are just natural and have nothing much to do with either.

The same for Bush's reign. Parts were Clinton, parts were Bush and parts just natural.

However I'd say Bush had more of an impact on the economy, and it was a negative impact mostly, than Obama has had.

But just pure "these were the stats when he took office and these are the stats when he left office" don't tell me anything much.
Conservatives are freaks. They tell us Reagan's economy lasted through 1999 ... but then they tell us Bush's economy lasted only until January 20th, 2009.

Everything changes, Einstain.

You can't just overlap economic conditions from administration to administration and expect they would be identical.

Reagan didn't have to deal with subversives on the streets strong arming the S&L's into making more and more risky loans or Eboma et al would protest their institutions.

Reagan didn't have assholes like this sabotaging the country intentionally or through negligence, corruption or incompetence.

 
Does he have to play golf and basketball and sing Al Green to win your approval???

After all, he DID save us from global thermonuclear war.

He DID save us from a debilitating oil crisis.

He DID prevent chaos in global economies as well as our own.

God dammit man!

What the fuck more would he have to do to get your thanks???

Fuckin ingrate.

Holy crap.

I'm just looking at the results, that's all.

I do wonder, however, if you would be so flexible if a President with a (D) after his name had left the same conditions behind.

Just kidding, I don't wonder about that.

.

If you are insinuating I wouldn't, haven't or couldn't support a well qualified honest America loving POTUS, you are wrong.

Just goes to show how ill informed and unobservant you are.

I LOVE AMERICA!

America is my cause. My client. My love. My passion on these boards.

It is our lifeboat protecting us from the world's waves of incivility and violence and chaos which could drown us and the sharks which want to consume us.

It is all we have.

We can't jeopardize it with the antics you guiys propose.

We are suffering greatly from too much Progressivism as it is and you say the only cure to this Eboma nightmnare is MORE Progressivism?

No.
No.
No.

The country is saying No.

And you don't have to take MY word for it, though you will soon see (or, as usual, be blindered to the fact) that I am right.

Anyone in the office who does right by America and Americans will have no problems from me.

When will you guys offer up someone for election who isn't prohibitively flawed "credentially", ideologically and/or morally and ethically?

I ALWAYS support the POTUS, no matter WHO wins!!!

Until they show me they don't deserve my support.

It's not that I diss every Demo POTUS.

It's just that this one is just so GODDAMNED WRONG for the job and for this country.

And you are too proud or egomaniacal to recognize it.

Rush pointed out why he hoped Eboma would fail.

Because only if he failed would this country have a chance to avoid the predictable and preventable pitfalls of his alien Progressive agenda.

You are being 100% intellectually dishonest. There is absolutely no way you'd ever support anyone who didn't have a "R" after his name. And we have all your post to prove it.
There are some of us who aren't absolutely not married to any political party and you aren't one of them.

I can understand why you'd doubt me.

It's because you are the kind of person you accuse me of being.

Libs commonly put Party before country.

I'm not doing that, nor would I.

But there's one Democrat who comes to mind who I respect and like a great deal.

Joe Lieberman.

I'd have voted for Joe Lieberman.

What a guy!
Did you vote for Lieberman for Vice President?

It's funny you ask.

I tried to.

But I don't think my vote was counted because they couldn't find my name that year at the polling place and they said they would sort it out at 'election central ' in that city and everything would get handled properly.

I just have a suspicion they bullshitted me.

All the bumper stickers of the election workers had Gore/Lieberman on them.

So voter irregularity shouldn't be ruled out!

LOL

Seriously...

I thought Gore was worthy of a shot.

And I didn't particularly like the cut of GWB's persona.

The whole "Smirking Chimp' thing, I guess.

Loved Joe Lieberman, though.

Great American.

And we ALL owe George W. Bush a HUGE debt of gratitude for keeping us safe during a time when few of us realize just how chaotic situations became globally and here at home.
 
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Does he have to play golf and basketball and sing Al Green to win your approval???

After all, he DID save us from global thermonuclear war.

He DID save us from a debilitating oil crisis.

He DID prevent chaos in global economies as well as our own.

God dammit man!

What the fuck more would he have to do to get your thanks???

Fuckin ingrate.

Holy crap.

I'm just looking at the results, that's all.

I do wonder, however, if you would be so flexible if a President with a (D) after his name had left the same conditions behind.

Just kidding, I don't wonder about that.

.

If you are insinuating I wouldn't, haven't or couldn't support a well qualified honest America loving POTUS, you are wrong.

Just goes to show how ill informed and unobservant you are.

I LOVE AMERICA!

America is my cause. My client. My love. My passion on these boards.

It is our lifeboat protecting us from the world's waves of incivility and violence and chaos which could drown us and the sharks which want to consume us.

It is all we have.

We can't jeopardize it with the antics you guiys propose.

We are suffering greatly from too much Progressivism as it is and you say the only cure to this Eboma nightmnare is MORE Progressivism?

No.
No.
No.

The country is saying No.

And you don't have to take MY word for it, though you will soon see (or, as usual, be blindered to the fact) that I am right.

Anyone in the office who does right by America and Americans will have no problems from me.

When will you guys offer up someone for election who isn't prohibitively flawed "credentially", ideologically and/or morally and ethically?

I ALWAYS support the POTUS, no matter WHO wins!!!

Until they show me they don't deserve my support.

It's not that I diss every Demo POTUS.

It's just that this one is just so GODDAMNED WRONG for the job and for this country.

And you are too proud or egomaniacal to recognize it.

Rush pointed out why he hoped Eboma would fail.

Because only if he failed would this country have a chance to avoid the predictable and preventable pitfalls of his alien Progressive agenda.

You are being 100% intellectually dishonest. There is absolutely no way you'd ever support anyone who didn't have a "R" after his name. And we have all your post to prove it.
There are some of us who aren't absolutely not married to any political party and you aren't one of them.

I can understand why you'd doubt me.

It's because you are the kind of person you accuse me of being.

Libs commonly put Party before country.

I'm not doing that, nor would I.

But there's one Democrat who comes to mind who I respect and like a great deal.

Joe Lieberman.

I'd have voted for Joe Lieberman.

What a guy!

No. I'm honest.
I have voted for many Republicans and I have posted on these boards support for the Keystone pipeline, stricter abortion laws, opposition to Obamacare (I was actually one of the first ones to oppose it) and several times I have posted my disappointment with Obama and the Dems. But, I also think the GOP is a huge failure too, I think the GOP is too far to the right and the Dems are too far to the left. As a matter of fact. I think both parties suck, which I have posted a multitude of times.
Also, I know you absolutely love Rush Limbaugh but I truly believe that Rush, Hannity, Schultz, Maddow and just about every hyper-partisan blog/new resource are guilty of the wide division and hate in this country. In my view (and Psychology Today), the very gullible and easily manipulated are being used a tools by these dividers. This certainly is not good for the United States. Every great leader has known that a country moves forward and tackles it's problems successfully when it's united, not separated.
Mojo, you are all about party over country. Again , your posts prove that point.
Successful corporation/companies became that way by considering different approaches and use a variety of ideas to reach their goal. There's usually a compromise of ideas. But with you and other ideologues (from the left and right), it's either their ideologies way or no way. Now that's a way to failure as our recent history has shown. With no good and honest communication and compromise, the US has been brought to a standstill The world in some cases is passing us by and in many cases the world is catching up.

Your post deserves a serious thoughtful response.

One I'm unprepared to write at the moment.

If I haven't done so after tonite, please remind me.

I don't want you to feel like i'm shinIng you on or whatever.

:)

Thanks.
 
Let's be clear: You think W SHOULD have allowed Israel to defend herself against Saddam's WMD bluff???

How strange.

They could neither confirm nor deny the WMD's but we DO know that Iran respected their mutual border and that is why Saddam floated that bluff in the speech alluded to by FBI interrogator, George Piro.

He wanted to prevent Iran from attacking.

His bluff worked. The Iranians did not attack again after the end of their bloody 10 year war which claimed more than 1,000,000 lives.

So that was even more reason to believe the WMD's existed.

That belief was validated this past week with news that Karl Rove advised W not to publicize the WMD's found circa 2005.

Thus, having to take it seriously, the Israelis were not going to stand for an Iraqi WMD 'Sword of Damocles' hanging over their necks threatening existential elimination.

When have you ever known the Israelis to take that sort of thing lying down?

They DON'T.

Nor should they.tolerate an Iraqi WMD 'Sword of Damocles' hanging over their necks threatening existential elimination of millions of Jews AND Muslims AND CHRISTIANS and others.

You wouldn't stand for it.

JFK didn't stand for nuclear missiles in Cuba which could strike any of our major East Coast and Southern cities. I remember almost peeing my pants and stinking my pants walking the mile back home from school. Even as a little seven year old Mojo2 I knew what was at stake in the Cuban Missile Crisis.

So, Israel WOULD have been forced to attack Iraq without any outward signs of provocation.

And you think this would have been a good thing???

So, do you think Israel should have been allowed to attack Iraq in self defense?
Israel's self defense is Israel's concern.
I can understand why you'd doubt me.

It's because you are the kind of person you accuse me of being.

Libs commonly put Party before country.

I'm not doing that, nor would I.

But there's one Democrat who comes to mind who I respect and like a great deal.

Joe Lieberman.

I'd have voted for Joe Lieberman.

What a guy!
Hell of a big government liberal, hell of a guy, thinks US foreign policy should be made in Tel Aviv.

If you are insinuating I wouldn't, haven't or couldn't support a well qualified honest America loving POTUS, you are wrong.

Just goes to show how ill informed and unobservant you are.

I LOVE AMERICA!

America is my cause. My client. My love. My passion on these boards.
No, your primary concern is with a little ethnocentric socialist state on the shores of the eastern Mediterranean.

Spoken like a true Jihadi!

Long live Israel.
 
I pointed out as historians will do that IN SPITE of not only 9/11 but the recession, the dot.com bust that cost $5 trillion plus 400,000 jobs and then we had the WORST hurricane SEASONS... not just one hurricane but 6 of the top ten worst hurricanes!
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

There were deaths, $1 trillion in losses and again NOT ONE president has ever had that happen.
Coupled with 9/11 again historians will say Bush not only helped the country SURVIVE these events but we thrived!
GWB had the Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

So with these FACTS alone and NOT your wild exaggerated GUESSES I am 100% confident Bush will be considered a GREAT President that in spite of these 4 gigantic events occurring he kept the USA stable. Kept the economy going. Kept people working and obviously all the while NOT opening his mouth ONE time in complaining about our military killing civilians as Obama has done. Or calling police stupid. Or playing golf minutes after a beheading! These are the FACTs and you can NOT refute any of them.

The problem is a president's reign doesn't mean everything they did just stops. Just because they can't take office again. Imagine there were a 5 year term of office and not 4. Bush won in 2000 and then again in 2005. He left office in 2010. All of a sudden the statistics would have changed massively.

You can't separate the economy now with Bush's reign in office. You can have parts that are influenced by Obama, parts influenced by Bush, and also parts that are just natural and have nothing much to do with either.

The same for Bush's reign. Parts were Clinton, parts were Bush and parts just natural.

However I'd say Bush had more of an impact on the economy, and it was a negative impact mostly, than Obama has had.

But just pure "these were the stats when he took office and these are the stats when he left office" don't tell me anything much.

Well, even though your bias shined through your rationality saved this post from being just another air jerk worthy comment.
 
I pointed out as historians will do that IN SPITE of not only 9/11 but the recession, the dot.com bust that cost $5 trillion plus 400,000 jobs and then we had the WORST hurricane SEASONS... not just one hurricane but 6 of the top ten worst hurricanes!
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

There were deaths, $1 trillion in losses and again NOT ONE president has ever had that happen.
Coupled with 9/11 again historians will say Bush not only helped the country SURVIVE these events but we thrived!
GWB had the Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

So with these FACTS alone and NOT your wild exaggerated GUESSES I am 100% confident Bush will be considered a GREAT President that in spite of these 4 gigantic events occurring he kept the USA stable. Kept the economy going. Kept people working and obviously all the while NOT opening his mouth ONE time in complaining about our military killing civilians as Obama has done. Or calling police stupid. Or playing golf minutes after a beheading! These are the FACTs and you can NOT refute any of them.

The problem is a president's reign doesn't mean everything they did just stops. Just because they can't take office again. Imagine there were a 5 year term of office and not 4. Bush won in 2000 and then again in 2005. He left office in 2010. All of a sudden the statistics would have changed massively.

You can't separate the economy now with Bush's reign in office. You can have parts that are influenced by Obama, parts influenced by Bush, and also parts that are just natural and have nothing much to do with either.

The same for Bush's reign. Parts were Clinton, parts were Bush and parts just natural.

However I'd say Bush had more of an impact on the economy, and it was a negative impact mostly, than Obama has had.

But just pure "these were the stats when he took office and these are the stats when he left office" don't tell me anything much.
Conservatives are freaks. They tell us Reagan's economy lasted through 1999 ... but then they tell us Bush's economy lasted only until January 20th, 2009.

Everything changes, Einstain.

You can't just overlap economic conditions from administration to administration and expect they would be identical.

Reagan didn't have to deal with subversives on the streets strong arming the S&L's into making more and more risky loans or Eboma et al would protest their institutions.

Reagan didn't have assholes like this sabotaging the country intentionally or through negligence, corruption or incompetence.


The point is .... Reagan's economy didn't last almost 20 years and Bush's didn't end the day Obama was sworn in. And as far as that Barney video ... despite being on the wrong side of that issue, he was just a member of the minority party and did not subvert any policies.
But I do like how the right took credit for the housing boom until it busted -- then it suddenly became the fault of the minority party Democrats. :lol:
 
I pointed out as historians will do that IN SPITE of not only 9/11 but the recession, the dot.com bust that cost $5 trillion plus 400,000 jobs and then we had the WORST hurricane SEASONS... not just one hurricane but 6 of the top ten worst hurricanes!
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

There were deaths, $1 trillion in losses and again NOT ONE president has ever had that happen.
Coupled with 9/11 again historians will say Bush not only helped the country SURVIVE these events but we thrived!
GWB had the Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

So with these FACTS alone and NOT your wild exaggerated GUESSES I am 100% confident Bush will be considered a GREAT President that in spite of these 4 gigantic events occurring he kept the USA stable. Kept the economy going. Kept people working and obviously all the while NOT opening his mouth ONE time in complaining about our military killing civilians as Obama has done. Or calling police stupid. Or playing golf minutes after a beheading! These are the FACTs and you can NOT refute any of them.

The problem is a president's reign doesn't mean everything they did just stops. Just because they can't take office again. Imagine there were a 5 year term of office and not 4. Bush won in 2000 and then again in 2005. He left office in 2010. All of a sudden the statistics would have changed massively.

You can't separate the economy now with Bush's reign in office. You can have parts that are influenced by Obama, parts influenced by Bush, and also parts that are just natural and have nothing much to do with either.

The same for Bush's reign. Parts were Clinton, parts were Bush and parts just natural.

However I'd say Bush had more of an impact on the economy, and it was a negative impact mostly, than Obama has had.

But just pure "these were the stats when he took office and these are the stats when he left office" don't tell me anything much.

Well, even though your bias shined through your rationality saved this post from being just another air jerk worthy comment.
Why is stating the facts BIASED?
What I did was report exactly what occurred during the ONLY administration in history to have 4 earth shaking events occur in 8 years.
I mean why is that bias to point out NO other presidency ever faced 4 events of the magnitude of these events.
Sure FDR faced depression and pearl harbor. But did he also have the worst hurricane seasons or a major collapse like the dot.com bubble? Sure Truman faced Korea as did Ike but did they have an attack on American soil as 9/11 and the anthrax attacks?
My point is not one presidency had 4 events occur in 8 years like the recession/dot.com bust/911/worst hurricanes.. nothing.
So tell me how that is biased in pointing this very large distinction about Bush?
Please correct me as to my history because outside of the depression/pearl harbor... what else did FDR face and i'll give him credit!
He did have 4 terms or nearly 14 years when he died which is nearly double what Bush had.
 
Spoken like a true Jihadi!

Long live Israel.

Standard issue bullshit. Anytime anyone is not 100% in favor of blessing everything done by the Israeli government throw out that crap.
It is easier than thinking, which, clearly, is not your long suit.
Long live the US, the rest need to learn to take care of themselves.
 
Spoken like a true Jihadi!

Long live Israel.

Standard issue bullshit. Anytime anyone is not 100% in favor of blessing everything done by the Israeli government throw out that crap.
It is easier than thinking, which, clearly, is not your long suit.
Long live the US, the rest need to learn to take care of themselves.

In a global fight to resist the ever spreading tentacles of Islamism how much sense does it make for us to abandon a fellow Democratic nation?

Are we that almighty we can afford to throw our allies under the bus???

And how honorable would it be to abandon a fellow Democracy which is fighting OUR battle???

We are the Great Satan.

Israel is just the little Satan.

What good would you see from shamelessly abandoning our friend while they are fighting for their lives?

And it's not just ANY fight!

It is a fight that we can't avoid no matter what our relationship is with Israel.

Global Jihad is their game and they are playing it without any help from your racist attitude.

We will NEVER abandon Israel.

You are a racist.

Go fuck yourself.
 

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