Do you love Satan and demons as scriptures say you should?

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    Do you love Satan and demons as scriptures say you should?

    Does love the sinner and hate the sin means that Satan and demons are to be loved?

    The reason being that sin is a happy fault and necessary to our growth. Listen to this hymn please.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXOvYn1OAL0&list=UUDXjzOeZRqLxhYaaEhWLb_A&index=9]O Necessary Sin of Adam (Does Christian Theology Need Adam & Eve?) - YouTube[/ame]

    Luke 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

    This statement has no qualifiers and since Christian tradition says that we are all sinners then it follows that all souls and sinners end in heaven. If God loves all sinners then this view must include Satan and demons and all of us as we are told that we as sinners have all been condemned and thus in need of salvation. It would also mean that non-believers, atheists and those of all the other faiths who are truly lost will also be saved by Jesus.

    If that be the case then what this bishop says must be truth in that hell is a religious construct and a lie.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc]'Hell' as an invention of the church - YouTube[/ame]

    These logical inferences are quite clear and I would like to hear from any who can argue against our having to love Satan and demons and against the notion that hell does not exist.

    Many say that God is love.

    Scriptures also say that God hates sinners even in the womb as in the story of Jacob and Esau contradicting what was said above.

    If God is love, how could he hate anyone including Satan and demons?

    If sin cannot abide in God as tradition states and God hates, ---- and to hate is a sin, then does sin abide in God?

    Unconditional love should mean that God loves all unconditionally including Satan and demons.

    Is GodÂ’s love unconditional or does it come with conditions like us having to love, honor and obey him?

    Is sin necessary for mental growth?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Pretty sure they were talking about your fellow humans, not demons.
     
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    Perhaps but ----- John 8; 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

    Satan's children would be demons and here Jesus says that humans are demons.

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    Why are we talking about the Tea Party in the religion forum?
     
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    I'm pretty sure anyone who has to consult and support ideas scribed by ignorant primitives thousands of years ago who believed in miracles, ghosts, witchcraft etc. needs a huge dose of reality.
     
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    If the Bible was written by primitive men, then how did they know that the Earth is round?
    That the Earth was divided and formed the contents (Scientists say that man was not around when this happened yet it is written in the Bible) and that certain types of food was unhealthy to eat?
     
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    You just keep on chompin' on that ancient horse shit but you had better go back and read the bible again. Anyone in there who ever wrote anything about it obviously thought the earth was flat. Besides that.....here's when mankind first began to believe the earth might be round:

    Flat Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "The paradigm of a spherical Earth was developed in Greek astronomy, beginning with Pythagoras (6th century BC)"
    Most retained the flat Earth model until the end of the middle ages.

    As far as the food....both my mother and one of her brothers ate pork meat twice a day nearly all their lives. My uncle farmed till he was 95 and my mother turned 100 the last day of July.

    Do you realize how totally rediculous you appear to be to others....or do you even care?
     
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    When discussing biblical notions it is handy to use the bible against those who use it to try to refute an illogical premise found in it. Fighting fire with fire is good even while knowing it is all imaginary mythical fire. It forces believers to call their own book a lie.

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    What you believe is your own business but Hollywood seems to believe in Satan and demons. At least they make a lot of money exploiting the concept.
     
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    A fairy tale by any other name is just as rediculous. Adults are supposed to know better.
     

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