Do you feel we should end Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid?

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Do you feel we should end Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid?

Yes or no?

If you say yes, then what happens to the people who depend on it? If you say no, then do you disagree with your leaders and if you do, then why you support them?
 
The zero number of responses you got is telling.

These programs are socialism. Conservatives like to spout off about how socialism is the devil himself,

but they also know that to oppose these socialist programs outright puts them in a looney extremist minority.

Such a dilemma...
 
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Yes, we should end Medicare and Medicaid. They should be replaced with (1) a Medicare-For-All health care delivery chassis that provides low-cost or no-cost preventive and diagnostic services to keep the populace healthier and therefore dramatically reduce the overall cost of health care delivery in America, (2) a robust and competitive free market-based insurance supplement menu based roughly on the current Medicare Supplement and Medicare Advantage systems, opening up a massive 300 million-plus market to the insurance companies at lower operating costs due to (1), (3) the creation and utilization of other obvious cost-cutting measures such as tort reform, national supplemental plans, Value-Based Insurance Design and global, coast to coast electronic records, and (4) low income subsidies for (2) above which will keep costs down in the long run due to decreased utilization by the demographic that historically is significantly less healthy.

Yeah, so get rid of Medicare and Medicaid and replace them.

No, we should not end Social Security. And anyone who thinks we should is so completely blinded by simplistic partisan ideology that they simply cannot see the damage it would do, top to bottom, across the country. Eliminating or significantly increasing the current Social Security income cap for payroll deductions (currently around $110,000) would create a de facto means testing apparatus and make Social Security solvent for a very long time.

Easiest freakin' question I'll answer all day.

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How stupid do you have to be to think that reform = ending?

Why you'd have to think that a bankruptcy filing would have closed GM, that's how stupid!
 
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Yes, we should end Medicare and Medicaid. They should be replaced with (1) a Medicare-For-All health care delivery chassis that provides low-cost or no-cost preventive and diagnostic services to keep the populace healthier and therefore dramatically reduce the overall cost of health care delivery in America, (2) a robust and competitive free market-based insurance supplement menu based roughly on the current Medicare Supplement and Medicare Advantage systems, opening up a massive 300 million-plus market to the insurance companies at lower operating costs due to (1), (3) the creation and utilization of other obvious cost-cutting measures such as tort reform, national supplemental plans, Value-Based Insurance Design and global, coast to coast electronic records, and (4) low income subsidies for (2) above which will keep costs down in the long run due to decreased utilization by the demographic that historically is significantly less healthy.

Yeah, so get rid of Medicare and Medicaid and replace them.

No, we should not end Social Security. And anyone who thinks we should is so completely blinded by simplistic partisan ideology that they simply cannot see the damage it would do, top to bottom, across the country. Eliminating or significantly increasing the current Social Security income cap for payroll deductions (currently around $110,000) would create a de facto means testing apparatus and make Social Security solvent for a very long time.

Easiest freakin' question I'll answer all day.

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Agree 99.9%. It would depend on what the Tort Reform is for me to get behind it. I don't like the idea of taking away the consumers rights especially when 98,000 people die annually from preventable medical errors. 46 states HAVE Tort Reform laws and it still hasn't brought down the cost of Health Care.
 
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Yes, we should end Medicare and Medicaid. They should be replaced with (1) a Medicare-For-All health care delivery chassis that provides low-cost or no-cost preventive and diagnostic services to keep the populace healthier and therefore dramatically reduce the overall cost of health care delivery in America, (2) a robust and competitive free market-based insurance supplement menu based roughly on the current Medicare Supplement and Medicare Advantage systems, opening up a massive 300 million-plus market to the insurance companies at lower operating costs due to (1), (3) the creation and utilization of other obvious cost-cutting measures such as tort reform, national supplemental plans, Value-Based Insurance Design and global, coast to coast electronic records, and (4) low income subsidies for (2) above which will keep costs down in the long run due to decreased utilization by the demographic that historically is significantly less healthy.

Yeah, so get rid of Medicare and Medicaid and replace them.

No, we should not end Social Security. And anyone who thinks we should is so completely blinded by simplistic partisan ideology that they simply cannot see the damage it would do, top to bottom, across the country. Eliminating or significantly increasing the current Social Security income cap for payroll deductions (currently around $110,000) would create a de facto means testing apparatus and make Social Security solvent for a very long time.

Easiest freakin' question I'll answer all day.

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Agree 99.9%. It would depend on what the Tort Reform is for me to get behind it. I don't like the idea of taking away the consumers rights especially when 98,000 people die annually from preventable medical errors. 46 states HAVE Tort Reform laws and it still hasn't brought down the cost of Health Care.


The one specific issue I would target with Tort Reform is the fact that providers currently run every freaking test under the sun to cover their legal ass. It's incredibly inefficient, time-consuming and costly. Providers have to be given the authority and leeway to pick and choose the tests they feel are appropriate. Yes, sometimes they will miss something, and perhaps there's something that can be done to mitigate that. This would also decrease the cost of malpractice insurance, but overuse of diagnostic testing is the big cost.

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Yes, we should end Medicare and Medicaid. They should be replaced with (1) a Medicare-For-All health care delivery chassis that provides low-cost or no-cost preventive and diagnostic services to keep the populace healthier and therefore dramatically reduce the overall cost of health care delivery in America, (2) a robust and competitive free market-based insurance supplement menu based roughly on the current Medicare Supplement and Medicare Advantage systems, opening up a massive 300 million-plus market to the insurance companies at lower operating costs due to (1), (3) the creation and utilization of other obvious cost-cutting measures such as tort reform, national supplemental plans, Value-Based Insurance Design and global, coast to coast electronic records, and (4) low income subsidies for (2) above which will keep costs down in the long run due to decreased utilization by the demographic that historically is significantly less healthy.

Yeah, so get rid of Medicare and Medicaid and replace them.

No, we should not end Social Security. And anyone who thinks we should is so completely blinded by simplistic partisan ideology that they simply cannot see the damage it would do, top to bottom, across the country. Eliminating or significantly increasing the current Social Security income cap for payroll deductions (currently around $110,000) would create a de facto means testing apparatus and make Social Security solvent for a very long time.

Easiest freakin' question I'll answer all day.

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Agree 99.9%. It would depend on what the Tort Reform is for me to get behind it. I don't like the idea of taking away the consumers rights especially when 98,000 people die annually from preventable medical errors. 46 states HAVE Tort Reform laws and it still hasn't brought down the cost of Health Care.


The one specific issue I would target with Tort Reform is the fact that providers currently run every freaking test under the sun to cover their legal ass. It's incredibly inefficient, time-consuming and costly. Providers have to be given the authority and leeway to pick and choose the tests they feel are appropriate. Yes, sometimes they will miss something, and perhaps there's something that can be done to mitigate that. This would also decrease the cost of malpractice insurance, but overuse of diagnostic testing is the big cost.

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Except it isn't. The lawsuits resulting from malpractice are FAR more costly than running additional tests.

People (not necessarily you) think that there is this abundance of "frivolous" lawsuits that is driving costs up. It's not true.

FRIVOLOUS MALPRACTICE LAWSUITS UNCOMMON: HARVARD STUDY
 
Do you feel we should end Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid?

Yes or no?

If you say yes, then what happens to the people who depend on it? If you say no, then do you disagree with your leaders and if you do, then why you support them?

no.....but they should make sure the money is spent wisely....and i dont support the guys you probably think i do,i despise 95% of those running the show right now.....ill vote for the Garbage Man over just about any incumbent....unless that Incumbent has shown me he is cares more about the Country or his Community over himself or Party.....i dont see to many of those around anymore.....
 
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Mac., are you for socialized medical care? Health care for everyone. With a coupld of twists?

If so, cool. You always do seem a little reasonable. But your buddies are gonna be mad.
 
Mac., are you for socialized medical care? Health care for everyone. With a coupld of twists?

If so, cool. You always do seem a little reasonable. But your buddies are gonna be mad.


I generally end up pissing off both ends of the spectrum at some point, which I consider to be a very good sign.

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What I want is to significantly lower the cost of health care delivery, maximize access and maintain quality. And a public/private partnership can do that.

Those who scream about "socialized medicine" and "freedom" either don't or won't understand how much extra they are paying for their "freedom" because Rush doesn't get into that. The inability of millions of Americans to access preventive and diagnostic services is costing us a ton and damaging the system.

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Do you feel we should end Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid?

Yes or no?

If you say yes, then what happens to the people who depend on it? If you say no, then do you disagree with your leaders and if you do, then why you support them?

How do you feel about giving up your Food Stamps?
 
The federal programs cannot be ended quickly enough to suit me.

If the states want to pick up the functions that these programs coverm that's up to them - I would personally oppose any such initiative in my state.

You, and no one else, are responsible for you; expecting others to take care of you is the most hideous excample of self-important narcissism I can think of.
 
People who paid into the system should receive the benefit of what they paid for or get their money back plus interest.

Workers who are entering the system should have the option of investing their own funds however they see fit, including the social security system.
 
The federal programs cannot be ended quickly enough to suit me.

If the states want to pick up the functions that these programs coverm that's up to them - I would personally oppose any such initiative in my state.

You, and no one else, are responsible for you; expecting others to take care of you is the most hideous excample of self-important narcissism I can think of.

what about all the money some people put into the system?

Shouldn't they get something back out?
 
The federal programs cannot be ended quickly enough to suit me.

If the states want to pick up the functions that these programs coverm that's up to them - I would personally oppose any such initiative in my state.

You, and no one else, are responsible for you; expecting others to take care of you is the most hideous excample of self-important narcissism I can think of.

A "true" Patriot who believes in every man for himself. Good for you. If you aren't a Republican, you are certainly the "Republican Ideal".
 
The zero number of responses you got is telling.

These programs are socialism. Conservatives like to spout off about how socialism is the devil himself,

but they also know that to oppose these socialist programs outright puts them in a looney extremist minority.

Such a dilemma...

When will you idiots.....Let me repeat that.

When do you idiots make these programs solvent.

Can I expect you to threaten SS checks at the next raise in the debt ceiling?
 
The federal programs cannot be ended quickly enough to suit me.

If the states want to pick up the functions that these programs coverm that's up to them - I would personally oppose any such initiative in my state.

You, and no one else, are responsible for you; expecting others to take care of you is the most hideous example of self-important narcissism I can think of.
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This.
 

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