Do you believe the war on drugs is a failure?

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    If so, what is your solution to drug abuse in America?
     
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    Yes it is a dismal failure. The solution to drug abuse....well that's a bit more complicated. People are going to do what they want regardless of what the government says so to reduce the use of narcotics you have to change the hearts and minds of the people. I don't see that happening any time soon as we are an abusive and pleasure driven race.

    Legalization would sure cut down on the crime that centers around the drug trade though. It would get a lot of people out of jail for victimless offenses, create a nice new tax stream...everyone has heard all the arguments I am sure. But I notice you don't see Mexican cartels popping people left and right trying to smuggle a keg of Corona into the United States.
     
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    legalize it all...the hardest drug to get is smoke....i really dont understand why i can get all the hard core drugs and all the script drugs i can want within a 5 mile radius...methadone clinics are doing well around here....but damn want good smoke and you are screwed...

    us growers are so far behind due to the repressive laws in the us....but it wont take long with cloning to catch up...its just sillie to expend all this man power on drugs ....here in the us and in other countries....they say the heroin markets are doing well....
     
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    We are pouring tons of manpower and money into a problem that is pretty much insoluble.

    All you can really do is have folks sign scrip that they give up their rights to operate heavy machinery when medicated.

    And of course, DWUI is still a felony.

    But beyond that, the goal of the government should be when they buy grass, they don't get catnip.
     
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    Well A) you have powerful lobbies that would lose money if hemp production became legal, B) you have powerful lobbies that would lose money on medicinal uses, and C) we didn't learn a fucking thing from Prohibition.
     
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    The solution: Education.
     
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    If doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is insane, our nations leadership needs to formulate a new policy, one which would at least palliate the myriad problems which continue and grow as we continue to pursue a failed policy.

    As noted above, a solution to the drug problem is likely beyond our reach, but continuing to spend dollars with very little benefit isn't wise and only benefits those who receive tax dollars to do the same thing year after year.

    How could the dollars spent on the war on drugs be better invested?
     
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    DARE and Just Say NO! Or do you have something new in mind?
     
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    There has never been a war on drugs. There has been an accommodation of drugs. There have been alternative sentencing, community service, rehab, counseling, living centers for those whose drug habits have caused their families to throw them out. With all these care and feeding of drug addicts no wonder the laughable "war on drugs" has been a dismal failure.

    Try as we might, we have created a culture where a huge number of people simply choose not to get through the day without getting high. Until that changes, no control over drugs is possible.

    All drugs should be legalized. Mexican drug cartels have taken almost 50,000 users and dealers out permanently. In all of our efforts to stop drug use we have not taken out ten percent of our own users and dealers. Time to turn it over to someone that knows what they are doing and directly pit the cartels against legal outlets. Likely legal outlets will be controlled by one or another cartel anyway, That's how it has worked with the marijuana clinics in California.

    Another benefit of full legalization is that users tend to die and die quite young. Whitney Houston was 48 when she died, which is old for a drug death. Usually they are gone before 30. One of the benefits of drug use, to be enhanced by full legalization is that drug users don't substitute drugs for alcohol, but use both simultaneously. Alcohol is already available in unlimited quantities, drugs needs to match that for full effect.

    The downside is that the United States has a multinational business basis. The foreign businesses I deal with already are hesitant to have Americans working for their company or even on their business matters. Americans are perceived to be lazy drug addicts who have a tendency to throw a drug induced tantrum when they don't get their way. As drug users die off, that might improve. It will take time.

    Right now, we are just nursing along a terminal disease hoping it will change. It won't. It needs drastic action. Fully legalize drugs as a form of social surgery.
     

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