Do you believe in the virgin birth of Jesus?

Chris

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I do.

And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed. (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.) And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us. And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child. And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds. But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart. And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.
 
Sure, if the Virgin Mary was a worm or a plant.

Parthenogenesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are several other reasons to believe it wasn't a virgin birth.

Some other facts is that Mary had children other then Jesus, and yes she did have sex with Joseph at some point.

I do realize that it could be meant as "They didn't have sex before she got pregnant" so therefore it's a Virgin birth but there are plenty of other explainations..

Seriously though, can't see why not.
 
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I dont know what I think, but I like reading what other people think.
 
Jesus almost always referred to himself as the "son of man."

Jesus also said, "You are gods."
 
he he true, I just didn't know jews also believe in becoming Gods too. thats interesting Chris.
 
You know more about the mormons than I do.

All I know is that the mormon bankers financed Las Vegas.

:lol: Las Vegas when?

The people who financed Las Vegas was the Mafia. The Mafia created Las Vegas from the patch of sand in the desert into what it is today.
 
:lol: Las Vegas when?

The people who financed Las Vegas was the Mafia. The Mafia created Las Vegas from the patch of sand in the desert into what it is today.

maybe the mormon mafia owns it now :razz:....
 
:lol: Las Vegas when?

The people who financed Las Vegas was the Mafia. The Mafia created Las Vegas from the patch of sand in the desert into what it is today.

One interesting chapter details how a small group of bankers--particularly E. Parry Thomas, head of Valley Bank--funneled deposits from the Mormon Church into the huge loans that fueled Las Vegas' explosive growth in the 1950s. "If a single entity, beyond the Syndicate, financed the first great expansion of modern Las Vegas...it was--wittingly and unwittingly--the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," the authors write.

BW Online | April 2, 2001 | Las Vegas Confidential
 
One interesting chapter details how a small group of bankers--particularly E. Parry Thomas, head of Valley Bank--funneled deposits from the Mormon Church into the huge loans that fueled Las Vegas' explosive growth in the 1950s. "If a single entity, beyond the Syndicate, financed the first great expansion of modern Las Vegas...it was--wittingly and unwittingly--the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," the authors write.

BW Online | April 2, 2001 | Las Vegas Confidential

Ah I see, I thought you meant the Mormons were the main people who financed Vegas originally. :lol:
 

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