Do you believe in drilling?

We do not necessarily have to replace all 12 Billion barrels we import. I would focus on replacing the Oil we import from Middle eastern nations, and Venazullah. We also get a lot from Mexico and Canada, and I do not see that as, as big of a problem.

Plus we could hopefully use Alternatives to replace some of the Imports as well.

The Goal should be to get us off of as much of Foreign oil as we can. Simple as that. Then if we can replace Oil all together some day in the future. Great, but in the meantime lets stop sending Billions to Saudi Arabia and Other Middle eastern nations.

At any rate it is rather stupid to argue that because we can not completely get off of Foreign Oil, that we should not get off it as much as we can. It is only common sense that we would be better off, and our economy would be better off, if we used more of our own oil.
 
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At any rate it is rather stupid to argue that because we can not completely get off of Foreign Oil, that we should not get off it as much as we can. It is only common sense that we would be better off, and our economy would be better off, if we used more of our own oil.

The problem I found was we hit out "peak oil" quite a while ago in regards to domestic oil reserves, and our current wells are dropping in production faster than we are developing new ones. That is what seems to be contributing the most to our increasing reliance on foreign oil.
 
The problem I found was we hit out "peak oil" quite a while ago in regards to domestic oil reserves, and our current wells are dropping in production faster than we are developing new ones. That is what seems to be contributing the most to our increasing reliance on foreign oil.

Ah but we keep finding more. We have found more off our coasts, we have found a shit load in the arctic, and now we have the Shale oil reserves.

Yes some wells are running out, but we are finding new sources all the time. We simply have to get the Politicians in DC to let us go get it. in fact a big part of Why we are "tapped out" is because we are not allowed to go get new sources, or in many cases to even look for them.
 
"Pelosi made clear she would not allow it to come to a vote." Say what?? :cuckoo: This broad thinks she is "Wonder Woman" :lol:

Several weeks ago House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denounced efforts to expand offshore oil exploration as a hoax that would do nothing to solve our country's energy woes. Though it was clear that firm majorities in both houses of Congress support opening the outer continental shelf and restricted portions of the Gulf of Mexico to drilling, Pelosi made clear she would not allow it to come to a vote. Why? She said she was "trying to save the planet." So she adjourned the House for a five-week vacation.

Nancy Pelosi's drilling smoke screen
 
Pelosi is showing signs she is willing to consider changing the Democrat stand on the issue of off-shore drilling.This is from August 17.

The stance of US Democrats against offshore drilling shifted more on Saturday, with House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi signaling she was willing to consider opening up more areas off the nation’s coastlines to oil and gas exploration.

In her party’s weekly radio address, Pelosi said opening portions of the Outer Continental Shelf for drilling would be a part of energy legislation House Democrats will put forward in coming weeks to address the country’s dependence on foreign oil and high gasoline prices.

House members will be able to “consider opening portions of the Outer Continental Shelf for drilling, with appropriate safeguards, and without taxpayer subsidies to Big Oil,” said Pelosi, a California Democrat.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
Nothing buy lip service in the face of Overwhelming Public demand for Drilling.

He the bitch really cared she would have allowed a vote before taking 5 weeks off.

I agree! But ... "Pelosi made clear she would not allow it to come to a vote." ... is the most arrogant statement made by anyone in her position I have ever heard! With the exception perhaps of the statement made by Alexander Haig - the day Reagan was shot ...

“While we were there in the hallway,” recalls presidential counselor Ed Meese, “the president was being wheeled from the emergency room to the operating room and he saw the three of us standing there and he said, ‘Who’s minding the store?’”

Over the next few hours, three men would assert control of the Situation Room and U.S. nuclear forces. When it was clear the president was unconscious, Haig famously declared himself in charge. The Day Reagan Was Shot, Fears Of A Soviet Plot - CBS News



.... who in the hell is she to allow anything?
 
Nothing buy lip service in the face of Overwhelming Public demand for Drilling.

Or it could be that she realizes that a lot of voters are in favor of off-shore drilling. I also realize that a politician changing their stand on an issue because it is something the voters want is a new concept in Washington, something the Republicans haven't quite got the concept of yet.
 
... is the most arrogant statement made by anyone in her position I have ever heard! With the exception perhaps of the statement made by Alexander Haig - the day Reagan was shot ...
:lol: "I'm in control here." A permanent part of the American lexicon: to “Al Haig” something is to “assume control or authority when none has been authorized.” We still call the TV remote control “the Al Haig Device”.
 
Or it could be that she realizes that a lot of voters are in favor of off-shore drilling. I also realize that a politician changing their stand on an issue because it is something the voters want is a new concept in Washington, something the Republicans haven't quite got the concept of yet.
Sure. That's why the Democrats are so bent on Queer Marriage and Socialized Medicine. :rolleyes:
 
Sure. That's why the Democrats are so bent on Queer Marriage and Socialized Medicine. :rolleyes:

More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday.
US doctors support universal health care - survey | Reuters

In an extensive ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll, Americans by a 2-1 margin, 62-32 percent, prefer a universal health insurance program over the current employer-based system.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase

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More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday.
US doctors support universal health care - survey | Reuters

In an extensive ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll, Americans by a 2-1 margin, 62-32 percent, prefer a universal health insurance program over the current employer-based system.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase

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Last I heard not all Americans are doctors.

With regards to your second citation, the rest of the story speaks for itself:
That support, however, is conditional: It falls to fewer than four in 10 if it means a limited choice of doctors, or waiting lists for non-emergency treatments. …..

Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.
 
Last I heard not all Americans are doctors.

With regards to your second citation, the rest of the story speaks for itself:

and? a universal healthcare system is favored by a majority of americans. that is inherently a socialistic system. and it is favored. so you were wrong. the fact that they dont want a completely govt run system doesnt change that.

and the fact that the majority of doctors want it, the people who would be most affected, must show it isnt as bad or evil as the repubs want to show it to be.
 
and? a universal healthcare system is favored by a majority of americans. that is inherently a socialistic system. and it is favored. so you were wrong. the fact that they dont want a completely govt run system doesnt change that.

and the fact that the majority of doctors want it, the people who would be most affected, must show it isnt as bad or evil as the repubs want to show it to be.

But you don't address the major caveat's of the doctors. Unless you believe those types of circumstances to be so unlikley that they don't warrent discussion. unfortuntely I think basic economics says otherwise.
 
More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday.
US doctors support universal health care - survey | Reuters

In an extensive ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll, Americans by a 2-1 margin, 62-32 percent, prefer a universal health insurance program over the current employer-based system.
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase

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And thank GOD we do not have a government based on popular whim...

Hmmm.. and I wonder if those voting in favor or being in favor would have something to gain from having it... having something paid for by someone else, or having a failing practice suddenly become loadd with government patients, etc...

You may want guaranteed sex written into federal law too... does not mean it should be provided to you.... just because you want or need something, does not mean the government exists to give it to you

grow up... and those others in the country supporting this entitlement attitude also need to grow up, grow a pair, or start putting as much energy into taking care of their own responsibilities as they do screaming that they need something for free or at someone else's expense
 
and? a universal healthcare system is favored by a majority of americans. that is inherently a socialistic system. and it is favored. so you were wrong. the fact that they dont want a completely govt run system doesnt change that.

and the fact that the majority of doctors want it, the people who would be most affected, must show it isnt as bad or evil as the repubs want to show it to be.
That's not the way I read it. What I see is when Americans are told just some of the details of a socialized system, most back away. That points to an original question suggesting a utopian system, perhaps one where they would get the same benefits at lower cost. Of course, ABC doesn’t want us to see what the actual questions of the poll were. The link provided at the bottom of the article goes nowhere:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/results_healthcare031020.html
 
Man you are a stupid one arn't you.

Yes, domestic drilling and Shale oil production could increase Domestic supply by 12 million barrels a day, or even more eventually.




No Global Warming is an undeniable fact, and is happening.

However Gore is getting rich off his movie, book, and Carbon Credit trading scams.

I believe whole heartedly in Evolution.




You are right about that, You are just wrong about who is Blind. I suggest a visit to the Eye Doctor pal.

Do you know that extracting oil from shale is very labor and energy intensive?

Do you even know what shale is? Shale is rock and the only way to mine it in the quantities needed to boost oil production enought to compensate for imported oil is by strip mining, the most ecologically destructive form of mining.

Even with the price of oil as high as it is today obtaining oil from shale is just not cost effective.

I see the eye doctor regularly because I am legally clind in one eye, unfortunately nothing can be done for my right eye. You on the other hand are blind because you simply refuse to open your eyes.
 
Do you know that extracting oil from shale is very labor and energy intensive?

Do you even know what shale is? Shale is rock and the only way to mine it in the quantities needed to boost oil production enought to compensate for imported oil is by strip mining, the most ecologically destructive form of mining.

Even with the price of oil as high as it is today obtaining oil from shale is just not cost effective.

I see the eye doctor regularly because I am legally clind in one eye, unfortunately nothing can be done for my right eye. You on the other hand are blind because you simply refuse to open your eyes.

Someone who is all for putting up massive arrays of wind turbines doesn't really have a leg to stand on calling somene elses idea cost innefective.
 

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