Do you believe in democracy?

[bigrebnc1775]

But what is different from the republic of democracy? We teach that it is the same.

Republic= rule of law protection of Individual liberty's
Democracy= mob rule no protection of individual liberty's

Now you are just screwing with the guy.

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

 

[Erand7899]

We may not be an actual democracy but every step taken away from democracy makes us less free and a lack of respect for the ideals of democracy is an open invitation to tyranny.

Democracy does not make anyone free, since a true democracy is as despotic as a dictatorship. What does make man free is a social code delineating individual freedom, that is respected by all members of the society. Society, in the form of government, always has much more power than the individual. That means that for the individual to be free, he/she must be protected from misuse of that power.

The United States of America has a Constitution that protects individual freedom from the federal government. Each state has a Constitution that protects individual freedoms from state and local governments. Those are the social codes that delineate and protect our individual freedoms. As citizens, we have an obligation to ensure that both state and federal government respect and protect those codes.

 

[Vlad_Russian]

Republic= rule of law protection of Individual liberty's
Democracy= mob rule no protection of individual liberty's

Now you are just screwing with the guy.

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

Who makes the laws?

 

[occupied]

Now you are just screwing with the guy.

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

Who makes the laws?

Leave it to the foreigner to cut to the chase. No system of government is without a ruling elite, they can be democratically elected by the people or less then democratically by the land owners or ruling party elite. These people who seem to despise democracy itself puzzle me in that they seem to think the fewer people involved in this decision the better, I point especially at those who would like to go back to bad old days when the senate was chosen by the party bosses in the states rather than elected.

 

[saveliberty]

Do you believe in smoking pot before or after lunch Vlad?

 

[peach174]

Republic - Government is limited by law.
Democracy is the gradual transition from a Republic to an Oligarchy. A tyranny of the elite, (of which we have now).

 

[saveliberty]

Minimizing the use of your miliary within the country helps a lot too.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Now you are just screwing with the guy.

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

Who makes the laws?

Elected Representative's
In a democracy If 51 percent of the people said all red heads must shave their heads or die the red heads would have to shave their heads or die.
In a Republic red heads cannot be forced to shave their heads

 

[Vlad_Russian]

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

Who makes the laws?

Leave it to the foreigner to cut to the chase. No system of government is without a ruling elite, they can be democratically elected by the people or less then democratically by the land owners or ruling party elite. These people who seem to despise democracy itself puzzle me in that they seem to think the fewer people involved in this decision the better, I point especially at those who would like to go back to bad old days when the senate was chosen by the party bosses in the states rather than elected.

I agree. Every state is totalitarian.

"Every state is oppression. Workers must fight even against the Soviet state - and at the same time to keep him as the apple of an eye." Vladimir Lenin

 

[saveliberty]

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

Who makes the laws?

Elected Representative's
In a democracy If 51 percent of the people said all red heads must shave their heads or die the red heads would have to shave their heads or die.
In a Republic red heads cannot be forced to shave their heads

In either case, the price of redhead porn goes up.

 

[occupied]

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

Who makes the laws?

Elected Representative's
In a democracy If 51 percent of the people said all red heads must shave their heads or die the red heads would have to shave their heads or die.
In a Republic red heads cannot be forced to shave their heads

You need to go back to civics class, there has never been a true democracy so your statement is without merit. Democracy is not so much a system of government as a value that is either treasured or crushed by the ruling elite of a particular country. You would not want to live in a country that had such a low opinion of democracy as you seem to have.

 

[bayoubill]

Do you believe in democracy?

"True democracy is despotism of proletarians". Voltaire

"Democracy ends when the put sheet in the box". D.Yatskov

"Democracy - is just a dream, as Arcadia, Santa Claus, and paradise". Henry Louis Mencken.

democracy = mob rule by stupid people...

that's why the Founding Fathers gave us a republic instead of a democracy...

But what is different from the republic of democracy? We teach that it is the same.

unfortunately, that is true...

and much confusion has arisen from it...

which has led the dumb-motherfucker segment of the population to think they're underrepresented (which, in a sense, is true... thank (insert the name of your favorite deity)...)

it's not for nothing that the Founding Fathers gave us the three equal branches of federal government... not to mention the Electoral College... all of which protect us against the mob rule of dumb motherfuckers...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who makes the laws?

Elected Representative's
In a democracy If 51 percent of the people said all red heads must shave their heads or die the red heads would have to shave their heads or die.
In a Republic red heads cannot be forced to shave their heads

You need to go back to civics class, there has never been a true democracy so your statement is without merit. Democracy is not so much a system of government as a value that is either treasured or crushed by the ruling elite of a particular country. You would not want to live in a country that had such a low opinion of democracy as you seem to have.

Maybe you should go back to civics class.

 

[occupied]

Elected Representative's
In a democracy If 51 percent of the people said all red heads must shave their heads or die the red heads would have to shave their heads or die.
In a Republic red heads cannot be forced to shave their heads

You need to go back to civics class, there has never been a true democracy so your statement is without merit. Democracy is not so much a system of government as a value that is either treasured or crushed by the ruling elite of a particular country. You would not want to live in a country that had such a low opinion of democracy as you seem to have.

Maybe you should go back to civics class.

Or maybe you would like living in such a country where the masses are without a voice in their government as long as you happen to be born into the ruling class. The only real difference between a real democratic republic and a despotic nightmare like the German Democratic Republic is the number of people who get a vote. Strange how you seem to favor moving towards less people having a say in their government and are seemingly unaware of how slippery that slope has always been.

 

[Staidhup]

Democracy is and can only be preserved by those that are educated, well informed, and work. We suffer as a result of ignorance and self enrichment by those that choose not to work and have chosen to depend upon government to provide their every need at the expense of those that produce.

 

[occupied]

Democracy is and can only be preserved by those that are educated, well informed, and work. We suffer as a result of ignorance and self enrichment by those that choose not to work and have chosen to depend upon government to provide their every need at the expense of those that produce.

That rationalization has been used to justify tyranny many times. Where do you draw the line between voting citizens and the rabble? Exactly how every single party state did it, they drew a line between the owners and the workers and then recruited a lot of police officers.

 

[Foxfyre]

Republic is rule of law
What about that Arab democracy is it mob rule?

Who makes the laws?

Elected Representative's
In a democracy If 51 percent of the people said all red heads must shave their heads or die the red heads would have to shave their heads or die.
In a Republic red heads cannot be forced to shave their heads

In a Republic that recognizes unalienable rights, you are correct. But if the government assigns the people the rights they will have, even in a Republic, the government can do anything to anybody.

The ancient government of the Roman Empire was a republic. The USSR stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who makes the laws?

Elected Representative's
In a democracy If 51 percent of the people said all red heads must shave their heads or die the red heads would have to shave their heads or die.
In a Republic red heads cannot be forced to shave their heads

In a Republic that recognizes unalienable rights, you are correct. But if the government assigns the people the rights they will have, even in a Republic, the government can do anything to anybody.

The ancient government of the Roman Empire was a republic. The USSR stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Well isn't that the basis of America's government? a Republic that recognizes unalienable rights.

 

[Foxfyre]

Do you believe in democracy?

"True democracy is despotism of proletarians". Voltaire

"Democracy ends when the put sheet in the box". D.Yatskov

"Democracy - is just a dream, as Arcadia, Santa Claus, and paradise". Henry Louis Mencken.

democracy = mob rule by stupid people...

that's why the Founding Fathers gave us a republic instead of a democracy...

But what is different from the republic of democracy? We teach that it is the same.

But it is so hard for a liberal to undetrstand how unique, how exceptional, the government of the Founders is. Just read Blind Boo's version of American history a couple of pages back. That could make any competent teacher of history bang his/her head against the wall.

The U.S. Government is a Republic, yes, and not a democracy--the difference is that a Republic is administrated by representatives that the people elect while the people vote on all administrative matters in a pure democracy.

But what makes the U.S. goverment different is that the U.S. Constitution assigns the rights to the people. It limits its own power with the intention that the rights of the people be secured and they will then govern themselves. At least that is what the Founders intended.

 

[kaz]

While we started out as much more of a traditional Republic, in that a limited number of citizens could vote for their representatives, we have evolved to more of a representative democracy where nearly every citizen has the right to vote for their reps.

The unfortunate side was the "limited number of citizens" who voted before were land owners and were disproportionately invested in responsible fiscal policy and by extending it to everyone we ended up with people who are disproportionately invested in helping themselves to other people's money. Hence the rise of the modern Democratic party, for politicians to prey on that greed to advance their political power and destroy responsible fiscal policy.