Do you believe Cohen or Trump?

Who do you believe?

  • Cohen

  • Trump

  • Neither, the truth is somewhere in the middle.


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Wrong

Cohen was sentenced based on a plea deal. He MUST maintain the same positions publicly or risk having the deal revoked and a REAL prison sentence imposed.
But he could accomplish this better by staying off the TV. He has nothing to gain by broadcasting it. He is more credible just because of his current position.
That is an absurd conclusion.

His release date will be dictated by his behavior from the date of conviction to his ultimate release. He knows this VERY WELL as a lawyer and will continue to do everything in his power to manipulate the way he is perceived in order to achieve the earliest release possible.

You seem very naive
Anyone who believes Her Muller will EVER put Cohen on the witness stand is fucking delusional!
It's a good thing Cohen is not a witness against Hillary. He'd commit suicide by shooting himself in the back of his head five times.
Cohen will be disbarred and end up working at a 'Cinnabon' somewhere in Nevada when he gets out.
The bigger question would be putting Trump on the witness stand.

When pressured, Trumps default seems to be to lie. I can’t see him testifying under oath
Why the hell should he testify.......so you can have another Perjury Trap............How about taking the 5th and telling you to shove the questions where the sun doesn't shine...........

Everyone has that right including the President.
"How about taking the 5th and telling you to shove the questions where the sun doesn't shine..........."

How would that prove he wasnt afraid of Mueller? He talked all that shit about wanting to sit down with him. Why all the panic now?
 
A lot of innocent people don't want to testify either.


Do you they're SHY or Guilty???

Donald Trump said that he would "love to speak" with special counsel Robert Mueller, but only if he's "treated fairly."

"I would love to speak. I would love to. Nobody wants to speak more than me," the President told reporters at the White House, adding that his lawyers have advised him against sitting for an interview.

"I would love to speak because we've done nothing wrong,"


Neither shy nor guilty. Its just that they don't trust Mueller or his goons- much like a lot of people didn't trust Mueller's predecessor Lavrenty Beria back in the old USSR.


If I were advising our President, I'd tell him to have a Public Only interview with Mr. Mueller on nationwide TV. During the President's opening remarks, Mueller would be put on the defensive from which he would never recover.
 
Smart people don't walk into a trap.............dumb asses do.......speaking of that some were very dumb to get lured into thinking that the FBI were there to be best buddies.....................

Orange Chicken.......LOL
 
Both have told different stories to different people. Neither are trustworthy imo.
Cohen imo is not a credible witness.
Both have told different stories to different people. Neither are trustworthy imo.
Cohen imo is not a credible witness.


I don't believe either of them. Both of them are pathological liars.

What I believe is factual records. Such as emails, texts, bank records, phone records, unaltered photos, video and audio recordings.

Which is probably what Mueller is doing.
 
Trump used his own money, and that's admirable. The congressmen should have this money scratched back IMHO.
he didn't use his own money Polish, he used the Trump Corporation's money, through FAKE and Fraudulent invoices to Cohen, who had also set up a FRAUDULENTLY created corporation for the purpose of simply hiding the hush money....

if he had used his Campaign funds to pay off the ladies of the night, it would have been LEGAL, as long as it was reported...

BUT he used TWO Corporations to pay off the women, at the 11th hour of the election, for the main purpose of hiding these indiscretions from the voting public.... corporate campaign donations, even in kind donations, ARE ILLEGAL and break campaign finance laws.
 
But he could accomplish this better by staying off the TV. He has nothing to gain by broadcasting it. He is more credible just because of his current position.
That is an absurd conclusion.

His release date will be dictated by his behavior from the date of conviction to his ultimate release. He knows this VERY WELL as a lawyer and will continue to do everything in his power to manipulate the way he is perceived in order to achieve the earliest release possible.

You seem very naive
Anyone who believes Her Muller will EVER put Cohen on the witness stand is fucking delusional!
It's a good thing Cohen is not a witness against Hillary. He'd commit suicide by shooting himself in the back of his head five times.
Cohen will be disbarred and end up working at a 'Cinnabon' somewhere in Nevada when he gets out.
The bigger question would be putting Trump on the witness stand.

When pressured, Trumps default seems to be to lie. I can’t see him testifying under oath
Why the hell should he testify.......so you can have another Perjury Trap............How about taking the 5th and telling you to shove the questions where the sun doesn't shine...........

Everyone has that right including the President.
I think a sitting President taking the 5th would be interesting to say the least.

He would be admitting to law breaking publicly
Especially in an election year
 
I don't believe either of them. Both of them are pathological liars.

What I believe is factual records. Such as emails, texts, bank records, phone records, unaltered photos, video and audio recordings.

Which is probably what Mueller is doing.


....and PLEASE don't forget TAX RETURNS...........lol
 
Trump used his own money, and that's admirable. The congressmen should have this money scratched back IMHO.
he didn't use his own money Polish, he used the Trump Corporation's money, through FAKE and Fraudulent invoices to Cohen, who had also set up a FRAUDULENTLY created corporation for the purpose of simply hiding the hush money....

if he had used his Campaign funds to pay off the ladies of the night, it would have been LEGAL, as long as it was reported...

BUT he used TWO Corporations to pay off the women, at the 11th hour of the election, for the main purpose of hiding these indiscretions from the voting public.... corporate campaign donations, even in kind donations, ARE ILLEGAL and break campaign finance laws.
One thing about Trump is he hates to use his own money
 
Both have told different stories to different people. Neither are trustworthy imo.
Cohen imo is not a credible witness.
Cohen has nothing left to gain or prove. He's already been sentenced. No reason to hide or lie any more.

tRump on the other hand still has to keep the faithful in line and is hoping to avoid impeachment and prison so he has every reason.

Lots of reason for Cohen to lie. Much of what he says is to minimize his involvement, plus his plea deal is based on implicating Trump. If Cohen is found to be deliberately lying to Mueller, then Mueller’s deal is off the table and he faces additional charges and a longer sentence.

Lots of reasons to lie.
 
Let's take a look at Cohen, who proved to have lied during the investigation.

Cohen says he's oh so deeply sorry he got involved in Trump's most darkest of worlds. And the proof of that world of darkness? Ah shucks, the depths of Hell was hush money paid to a porn star.............Oh my, how fucking dark, Trump is Satan himself.

For those with a fucking brain, it's clear Cohen's statement was was part of a plea agreement for political causes. It's that or he figure he'd say it on his own expecting leniency, but I'll assume the former. Either way it supports what should be very clear to everyone, which is this investigation stinks and Cohen is creep. But I don't suspect many progressives can follow the logic.
I think Mueller is an experienced enough prosecutor to not take Cohens word on anything. Verify, verify, verify
 
Both have told different stories to different people. Neither are trustworthy imo.
Cohen imo is not a credible witness.
Cohen has nothing left to gain or prove. He's already been sentenced. No reason to hide or lie any more.

tRump on the other hand still has to keep the faithful in line and is hoping to avoid impeachment and prison so he has every reason.

Lots of reason for Cohen to lie. Much of what he says is to minimize his involvement, plus his plea deal is based on implicating Trump. If Cohen is found to be deliberately lying to Mueller, then Mueller’s deal is off the table and he faces additional charges and a longer sentence.

Lots of reasons to lie.
"If Cohen is found to be deliberately lying to Mueller, then Mueller’s deal is off the table and he faces additional charges and a longer sentence. "

Wouldnt that be more of a reason to tell the truth?
 
But he could accomplish this better by staying off the TV. He has nothing to gain by broadcasting it. He is more credible just because of his current position.
That is an absurd conclusion.

His release date will be dictated by his behavior from the date of conviction to his ultimate release. He knows this VERY WELL as a lawyer and will continue to do everything in his power to manipulate the way he is perceived in order to achieve the earliest release possible.

You seem very naive
Anyone who believes Her Muller will EVER put Cohen on the witness stand is fucking delusional!
It's a good thing Cohen is not a witness against Hillary. He'd commit suicide by shooting himself in the back of his head five times.
Cohen will be disbarred and end up working at a 'Cinnabon' somewhere in Nevada when he gets out.
The bigger question would be putting Trump on the witness stand.

When pressured, Trumps default seems to be to lie. I can’t see him testifying under oath
Why the hell should he testify.......so you can have another Perjury Trap............How about taking the 5th and telling you to shove the questions where the sun doesn't shine...........

Everyone has that right including the President.
"How about taking the 5th and telling you to shove the questions where the sun doesn't shine..........."

How would that prove he wasnt afraid of Mueller? He talked all that shit about wanting to sit down with him. Why all the panic now?
Because, as previously noted, he's a perjury machine.
 
Let's take a look at Cohen, who proved to have lied during the investigation.

Cohen says he's oh so deeply sorry he got involved in Trump's most darkest of worlds. And the proof of that world of darkness? Ah shucks, the depths of Hell was hush money paid to a porn star.............Oh my, how fucking dark, Trump is Satan himself.

For those with a fucking brain, it's clear Cohen's statement was was part of a plea agreement for political causes. It's that or he figure he'd say it on his own expecting leniency, but I'll assume the former. Either way it supports what should be very clear to everyone, which is this investigation stinks and Cohen is creep. But I don't suspect many progressives can follow the logic.
I think Mueller is an experienced enough prosecutor to not take Cohens word on anything. Verify, verify, verify
Whats funny is that people actually think Mueller is some sort of rookie at this. Drumpf wouldnt last 15 seconds with a 1rst year law school student let alone Mueller.
 
think Mueller is an experienced enough prosecutor to not take Cohens word on anything. Verify, verify, verify


What Mueller has....after the raid to Cohen's office and home is a damn TREASURE TROVE or MOTHER LODE of Trump documented legal fuck-ups.....
 
Let's take a look at Cohen, who proved to have lied during the investigation.

Cohen says he's oh so deeply sorry he got involved in Trump's most darkest of worlds. And the proof of that world of darkness? Ah shucks, the depths of Hell was hush money paid to a porn star.............Oh my, how fucking dark, Trump is Satan himself.

For those with a fucking brain, it's clear Cohen's statement was was part of a plea agreement for political causes. It's that or he figure he'd say it on his own expecting leniency, but I'll assume the former. Either way it supports what should be very clear to everyone, which is this investigation stinks and Cohen is creep. But I don't suspect many progressives can follow the logic.
I think Mueller is an experienced enough prosecutor to not take Cohens word on anything. Verify, verify, verify


Mueller is an experienced fuck up. He fucked up the Enron case, the conviction and destruction of Arthur Andersen was overturned by the Supreme Court. He fucked up the Anthrax case against Hatfill that allowed the perp to walk free and cost the taxpayers millions.

Truthfully, he doesn't stand a chance against President Trump.
 
Cohen has nothing left to gain or prove. He's already been sentenced. No reason to hide or lie any more.

Wrong

Cohen was sentenced based on a plea deal. He MUST maintain the same positions publicly or risk having the deal revoked and a REAL prison sentence imposed.

Wrong

The information he has given had to have some value insofar as being truthful. He couldn’t just make up stuff. The IC would be verifying this information with what Papa said, with what Manafort said, with what dozens of other deposed witnesses said. One cannot just do the keeping up appearances act with the federal prosecutors. It would actually get him more jail time.
 
Let's take a look at Cohen, who proved to have lied during the investigation.

Cohen says he's oh so deeply sorry he got involved in Trump's most darkest of worlds. And the proof of that world of darkness? Ah shucks, the depths of Hell was hush money paid to a porn star.............Oh my, how fucking dark, Trump is Satan himself.

For those with a fucking brain, it's clear Cohen's statement was was part of a plea agreement for political causes. It's that or he figure he'd say it on his own expecting leniency, but I'll assume the former. Either way it supports what should be very clear to everyone, which is this investigation stinks and Cohen is creep. But I don't suspect many progressives can follow the logic.
I think Mueller is an experienced enough prosecutor to not take Cohens word on anything. Verify, verify, verify


Mueller is an experienced fuck up. He fucked up the Enron case, the conviction and destruction of Arthur Andersen was overturned by the Supreme Court. He fucked up the Anthrax case against Hatfill that allowed the perp to walk free and cost the taxpayers millions.

Truthfully, he doesn't stand a chance against President Trump.
No wonder Drumpf is afraid of Mueller. :rolleyes:
 
Truthfully, he doesn't stand a chance against President Trump.


Can't fix ignorance and stupidity in this forum...Stay fucking dumb...No one cares...LOL

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Both have told different stories to different people. Neither are trustworthy imo.
Cohen imo is not a credible witness.
Cohen has nothing left to gain or prove. He's already been sentenced. No reason to hide or lie any more.

tRump on the other hand still has to keep the faithful in line and is hoping to avoid impeachment and prison so he has every reason.

Lots of reason for Cohen to lie. Much of what he says is to minimize his involvement, plus his plea deal is based on implicating Trump. If Cohen is found to be deliberately lying to Mueller, then Mueller’s deal is off the table and he faces additional charges and a longer sentence.

Lots of reasons to lie.
Not really no. He's already been sentenced.
 

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