Do you agree that pre-born humans are NOT entitled to any rights or even the right to live?

[K9Buck]

I don't consider the unborn a person. So no.

So one second before birth the fetus is not a person?

Not in my opinion.
Being a person implies many forms of independence which the unborn do not have.

By that logic, it would be justified to kill quadriplegics, the bedridden and many others.

 

[Blues Man]

I don't consider the unborn a person. So no.

So one second before birth the fetus is not a person?

Not in my opinion.
Being a person implies many forms of independence which the unborn do not have.

The just born are 100% dependent so it must be OK to kill them right?

 

[Unkotare]

I realize that many believe that women shouldn't be forced to be inconvenienced with a pregnancy. But why does the woman's "right" to not be inconvenienced trump a pre-born human's right to live their life?

That’s a good question. A pre-born human is literally still a piece of the mother, growing inside her body. ...

Factually untrue.

 

[candycorn]

I realize that many believe that women shouldn't be forced to be inconvenienced with a pregnancy. But why does the woman's "right" to not be inconvenienced trump a pre-born human's right to live their life?

do you believe that every pregnant Maria, Juanita, or Kerisha in those blue state cities like NY, LA, Chicago should count twice on the Census when they award more electors?

 

[Slade3200]

that wasn’t my question though. Should they have the exact same rights as a born child?

We're not playing 64 questions. The topic of the thread is whether or not unborn humans should have any rights. Answer that and then we can go from there.

im not asking 64 questions, I asked one question which you skirted around. How about a direct answer?

Yes, I believe unborn children should have rights. Now the question is what those rights are... I’m asking you if you think they should have the exact same rights as a born human child?

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

neglect. A mother can be charged with neglect for not taking care of her baby properly. Would you apply the same standards to pregnant mothers?

 

[Slade3200]

that wasn’t my question though. Should they have the exact same rights as a born child?

We're not playing 64 questions. The topic of the thread is whether or not unborn humans should have any rights. Answer that and then we can go from there.

im not asking 64 questions, I asked one question which you skirted around. How about a direct answer?

Yes, I believe unborn children should have rights. Now the question is what those rights are... I’m asking you if you think they should have the exact same rights as a born human child?

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

If you don’t mind another question... I promise not to ask 64 of them

what is your position on abortion in the instance of rape... say a 15 year old is raped and impregnated....
Or in the case of the mothers life being at risk?

 

[buttercup]

I don't consider the unborn a person. So no.

So one second before birth the fetus is not a person?

Not in my opinion.
Being a person implies many forms of independence which the unborn do not have.

A person is simply human being. (Even the dictionary will tell you that.)

It is an undeniable scientific fact that the pre-born baby is a human being, with a unique set of DNA from the start. An individual person who has never existed before and never will again.

So to add on all sorts of extra qualifications to deny the humanity of an innocent person is either ignorant or immoral, take your pick.

 

[progressive hunter]

We're not playing 64 questions. The topic of the thread is whether or not unborn humans should have any rights. Answer that and then we can go from there.

im not asking 64 questions, I asked one question which you skirted around. How about a direct answer?

Yes, I believe unborn children should have rights. Now the question is what those rights are... I’m asking you if you think they should have the exact same rights as a born human child?

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

If you don’t mind another question... I promise not to ask 64 of them

what is your position on abortion in the instance of rape... say a 15 year old is raped and impregnated....
Or in the case of the mothers life being at risk?

why dont you answer his question first???

 

[K9Buck]

We're not playing 64 questions. The topic of the thread is whether or not unborn humans should have any rights. Answer that and then we can go from there.

im not asking 64 questions, I asked one question which you skirted around. How about a direct answer?

Yes, I believe unborn children should have rights. Now the question is what those rights are... I’m asking you if you think they should have the exact same rights as a born human child?

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

neglect. A mother can be charged with neglect for not taking care of her baby properly. Would you apply the same standards to pregnant mothers?

Yes. No smoking or drinking or anything else that would harm the baby.

 

[Slade3200]

I realize that many believe that women shouldn't be forced to be inconvenienced with a pregnancy. But why does the woman's "right" to not be inconvenienced trump a pre-born human's right to live their life?

That’s a good question. A pre-born human is literally still a piece of the mother, growing inside her body. ...

Factually untrue.

how so?

 

[Slade3200]

im not asking 64 questions, I asked one question which you skirted around. How about a direct answer?

Yes, I believe unborn children should have rights. Now the question is what those rights are... I’m asking you if you think they should have the exact same rights as a born human child?

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

If you don’t mind another question... I promise not to ask 64 of them

what is your position on abortion in the instance of rape... say a 15 year old is raped and impregnated....
Or in the case of the mothers life being at risk?

why dont you answer his question first???

i did smart guy... check the post I made before the one you responded to. Try chilling out a bit with the gotchyas. You’re trying too hard.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I realize that many believe that women shouldn't be forced to be inconvenienced with a pregnancy. But why does the woman's "right" to not be inconvenienced trump a pre-born human's right to live their life?

Fetuses aren't viable... therefore not "people" with rights.

The problem with giving rights to little blobs of tissue is that they end up having more rights than the woman it is in.

 

[Slade3200]

im not asking 64 questions, I asked one question which you skirted around. How about a direct answer?

Yes, I believe unborn children should have rights. Now the question is what those rights are... I’m asking you if you think they should have the exact same rights as a born human child?

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

neglect. A mother can be charged with neglect for not taking care of her baby properly. Would you apply the same standards to pregnant mothers?

Yes. No smoking or drinking or anything else that would harm the baby.

So pregnant mother takes a sip of wine or is smoking a cig in public, a cop sees it and then what? Get CPS involved?

 

[Richard-H]

I realize that many believe that women shouldn't be forced to be inconvenienced with a pregnancy. But why does the woman's "right" to not be inconvenienced trump a pre-born human's right to live their life?

Legally 'pre-borns' are not considered to be a human life.

I've often suggested that a fetus or embryo be considered an individual when it has DNA that is unique from the Mother's. But for some reason the 'right-to-life' groups haven't taken interest in that approach.

Perhaps they really do not want abortion to be made illegal. Ulterior motives?

 

[progressive hunter]

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

If you don’t mind another question... I promise not to ask 64 of them

what is your position on abortion in the instance of rape... say a 15 year old is raped and impregnated....
Or in the case of the mothers life being at risk?

why dont you answer his question first???

i did smart guy... check the post I made before the one you responded to. Try chilling out a bit with the gotchyas. You’re trying too hard.

NO YOU DIDNT<<,,

 

[BrokeLoser]

Encourage liberals to abort their children. We don't need another leftist generation.

Actually, it's conservatives who are getting the abortions.

Liberals are smart enough to use birth control.

Are poor folks, blacks and hispanics ‘conservatives’ or are you just talking out your ass AGAIN?

 

[Slade3200]

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

If you don’t mind another question... I promise not to ask 64 of them

what is your position on abortion in the instance of rape... say a 15 year old is raped and impregnated....
Or in the case of the mothers life being at risk?

why dont you answer his question first???

i did smart guy... check the post I made before the one you responded to. Try chilling out a bit with the gotchyas. You’re trying too hard.

NO YOU DIDNT<<,,

Ok buddy, whatever you say!

 

[Blues Man]

I don't consider the unborn a person. So no.

So one second before birth the fetus is not a person?

Not in my opinion.
Being a person implies many forms of independence which the unborn do not have.

A person is simply human being. (Even the dictionary will tell you that.)

It is an undeniable scientific fact that the pre-born baby is a human being, with a unique set of DNA from the start. An individual person who has never existed before and never will again.

So to add on all sorts of extra qualifications to deny the humanity of an innocent person is either ignorant or immoral, take your pick.

I would say that the DNA of an embryo is a potential unique individual.

But at when point during gestation that does potential become realized ?

 

[BrokeLoser]

I think they should have the right to be born healthy and then be adopted to someone who will raise them. Aside from that, what other needs would do they have that would warrant additional "rights"?

i just don’t understand why you won’t say they they should have the exact same rights as a born child. Wouldn’t that make everything much simpler?

Can you provide an example of an additional right that a child has and that an unborn child would need?

neglect. A mother can be charged with neglect for not taking care of her baby properly. Would you apply the same standards to pregnant mothers?

Yes. No smoking or drinking or anything else that would harm the baby.

So pregnant mother takes a sip of wine or is smoking a cig in public, a cop sees it and then what? Get CPS involved?

I’m thinking we should start by keeping this one simple...How about the unborn be given the right to life first...then we can start to hammer down on ShaQuita, Guadalupe and white trash for all the complex shit in between....Whatta ya say?

 

[satrebil]

I realize that many believe that women shouldn't be forced to be inconvenienced with a pregnancy. But why does the woman's "right" to not be inconvenienced trump a pre-born human's right to live their life?

The decision to become a parent isn’t based on “convenience”, it’s based on whether you’re in a position financially and emotionally to commit to bearing a raising a child. Becoming a parent is a lifelong commitment.

Every child deserves to be love and wanted. A child is not a “consequence”. It is a person deserving of the best a parent can give.

If you don’t believe in abortion, don’t have one. The rest is none of your business.

If you don't like slavery, don't buy a slave.

BOOM goes the dynamite.