Do Republicans understand the meaning of the word "automation"?

[Lumpy 1]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

Are you under the impression that automation requires zero employment and that the materials, maintenance and equipment used for automation magically appears without human intervention or production and transfer?

At the time our Constitution was ratified, 98 percent of Americans were employed in agriculture.

Today, thanks to technology, less than two percent of Americans are employed in agriculture, and yet our food output is at record levels.

Anyone who promised to "bring back our lost agriculture jobs" would be a lying asshole.

Just so with coal and many other industries.

The only reason the lying assholes get away with being lying assholes is because the rubes don't grasp these simple facts of life. Their jobs are not overseas. Most of their jobs are obsolete and are NEVER coming back.

Sheesh.. do you ever re-read your posts nowadays, what's with all the sweet talking..

mmm .. just to bug you and your beloved asshole fetish..



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[deanrd]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

One of us is an idiot and it isn’t me.

James May of Top Gear fame spent 24 hours at the Mini plant in England. He walked the viewers through the process to build a car. The machines, the automation you are harping on, did the welding of the body, and the painting. Then it was all Humans. Skilled labor assembled the car. They ran the wiring, the components that were bolted on. Two thirds of the time it took to build the car was humans working on the damned thing.

During the show, they went to the Nissan plant, and it was exactly the same. Humans there working around the clock to crank out cars.

Take something you believe should be banned. Guns. The AR for example. A milling machine controlled by computer takes the blank and presents the user after some time, the final lower receiver. Then a human steps in, and begins to assemble these disparate parts. That human is called a gunsmith. Again skilled labor. It takes longer for the human to assemble the rifle, than it takes the machine to grind out the excess metal for the lower receiver. But there is no machine made that can replace a human in assembling a quality rifle.

Look at any industry you want. It is the humans that make it work. Planes are automated to a fantastic degree, and when the automation fails, and it is going to fail, we expect the human called a PILOT to fly the damned plane. We blame the human when they crash the plane, we call it pilot error. Now, aviation safety advocates are calling on the pilots to fly MORE often, to give them MORE practice, without the automation.

Trucks, cranes, ships, and all that are heavily automated, yet without a trained human, it just doesn’t work.

But the biggest proof of your nonsense is that we are moving the factories to Mexico. It isn’t because Mexico has better robots to build shit. It’s because Mexico has cheaper labor, those humans we talked about. If it was all robots all the time, then moving it to Mexico would not make any sense. Because all you would do is increase your costs, not decrease them. You would add in hundreds or thousands of miles of shipping to get the finished product to the final destination without any benefit.

Companies are not in the habit of changing location to lose money, so your argument is obviously false. It is so obvious that only an idiot would make such a flawed assertion.

The companies are relocating manufacturing to other nations because of the cheaper labor, not in spite of it.

Not sure exactly what you are talking about. No one ever said humans aren't being used. Perhaps you could do a little much needed research.
Here are a few places to start:

Automotive News

ZEELAND, Mich. — The Trump administration has a vision for U.S. manufacturers: It wants them to rely less on overseas factories and to hire and train more American workers
Factory automation is what made it possible for Gentex to move production from overseas to the Midwest.

Here is a BMW factory from beginning to end. A single robot replaces dozens of workers. This is from Germany. If it can be in Germany, it can be in the US.


Here is the BMW motor factory. Not many workers.


That's just the reality. Automation has taken over so many industries. Even milk production.

WATCH AND LEARN RIGHT WINGER!
WATCH AND LEARN!​

You mean like this?



Or this one where the customers could come in and help build their own cars?



Or the aforementioned gun manufacturing. The computers do the milling and the human gunsmiths do the assembly. The attention to detail is not something that a computer is good at. Yet. Then again, either is eye hand coordination.

Inside Daniel Defense - TGC Factory Tour!

How to Survive a Robot Apocalypse: Just Close the Door

But tell me this. Why do the companies who are moving to Mexico say it is for cheaper labor if there is hardly any labor anymore?

These three U.S. companies moved jobs to Mexico. Here's why

Who is Killing American Manufacturing?

Perhaps you should go and tell those companies that the labor being cheaper in Mexico is ridiculous since it’s all robots now. Let me know how long it takes for them to hang up on you. I’ll take five minutes, do you want the over, or the under?

Since it's all robots now?

Who said that? Oh, you did.

 

[deanrd]

It's not just Republicans who don't grok the automation revolution. Neither do Democrats. Especially labor unions.

Actually, the Democrats do understand which is why so many of their policies are based on education. Only they are doing a terrible job of getting their message out for a variety of reasons.
One reason is Trump and the GOP dominates the news cycle with all their scandals.
Who wants to hear about automation when you have:
Russian Collusion
and
Molesting young girls?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

Dean automatically posts the exact same shit daily

hence post no 2.....

 

[flacaltenn]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

It's not the right who doesn't understand automation. It's your team. When you bring back manufacturing to America -- it doesn't just reduce to the SITE PLANT at which the goods are made. It creates many tiers of jobs to sub-suppliers, transporters, maintenance, quality control and DESIGN of those products. There's a whole big SUPPLY CHAIN associated with that plant. Including local businesses that cater to all the workers needs.

YES -- the number of jobs IN the building are less they were 40 years ago, but there are still a full spectrum of jobs to make the plant work. MOST at higher paying, better salaries. And it's the material flow in/out of that building that creates TONS of jobs. Including the ability to DESIGN your product in close proximity to where you build it.

I'll help you understand this anytime you want Mr. Wonk --- just ask..

 

[fncceo]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

Thank you for demonstrating automation ...

 

[deanrd]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

Dean automatically posts the exact same shit daily

hence post no 2.....

Evidence of your stupidity.

Because automation is both getting better and evolving, and with the addition of AI, it's completely new. You thinking it's the "same old thing" only proves beyond a doubt your stupidity. Perhaps you should give up rather than letting me spank you again and again?

 

[deanrd]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

Thank you for demonstrating automation ...

This is the problem. To Republicans, this is modern automation.

 

[deanrd]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

It's not the right who doesn't understand automation. It's your team. When you bring back manufacturing to America -- it doesn't just reduce to the SITE PLANT at which the goods are made. It creates many tiers of jobs to sub-suppliers, transporters, maintenance, quality control and DESIGN of those products. There's a whole big SUPPLY CHAIN associated with that plant. Including local businesses that cater to all the workers needs.

YES -- the number of jobs IN the building are less they were 40 years ago, but there are still a full spectrum of jobs to make the plant work. MOST at higher paying, better salaries. And it's the material flow in/out of that building that creates TONS of jobs. Including the ability to DESIGN your product in close proximity to where you build it.

I'll help you understand this anytime you want Mr. Wonk --- just ask..

It depends. There is a lot of change there.

When I worked as a senior design engineer, the engineering department was much smaller with the introduction of modern design programs. The ones we used was AutoDESK's Inventor Pro supported by the Vault and Computation Fluid Dynamics.



Engineers handled BOM's, and the creation of shop drawings. In fact, when we passed on drawings to suppliers, we included 3d models which could be imported directly into their manufacturing programs which allowed their programs to nest the parts and reduce them to the fewest number of steps when manufacturing.

That's how it worked and even small companies were becoming more streamlined.

So now you have a smaller engineering department. But you would definitely need more technicians. Just a couple more.

And the factory work force is greatly reduced. One machine can replace dozens.
So you need a smaller HR department, smaller lunch area, and even fewer parking spaces.

In fact, the food trucks that showed up at lunch and breaks probably don't even need to show up anymore. To few people to make money from.

Even portions of the supply chain are automated.

That's just the reality.

 

[flacaltenn]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

It's not the right who doesn't understand automation. It's your team. When you bring back manufacturing to America -- it doesn't just reduce to the SITE PLANT at which the goods are made. It creates many tiers of jobs to sub-suppliers, transporters, maintenance, quality control and DESIGN of those products. There's a whole big SUPPLY CHAIN associated with that plant. Including local businesses that cater to all the workers needs.

YES -- the number of jobs IN the building are less they were 40 years ago, but there are still a full spectrum of jobs to make the plant work. MOST at higher paying, better salaries. And it's the material flow in/out of that building that creates TONS of jobs. Including the ability to DESIGN your product in close proximity to where you build it.

I'll help you understand this anytime you want Mr. Wonk --- just ask..

It depends. There is a lot of change there.

When I worked as a senior design engineer, the engineering department was much smaller with the introduction of modern design programs. The ones we used was AutoDESK's Inventor Pro supported by the Vault and Computation Fluid Dynamics.



Engineers handled BOM's, and the creation of shop drawings. In fact, when we passed on drawings to suppliers, we included 3d models which could be imported directly into their manufacturing programs which allowed their programs to nest the parts and reduce them to the fewest number of steps when manufacturing.

That's how it worked and even small companies were becoming more streamlined.

So now you have a smaller engineering department. But you would definitely need more technicians. Just a couple more.

And the factory work force is greatly reduced. One machine can replace dozens.
So you need a smaller HR department, smaller lunch area, and even fewer parking spaces.

In fact, the food trucks that showed up at lunch and breaks probably don't even need to show up anymore. To few people to make money from.

That's just the reality.

Well -- at least you're thinking now and not spewing. Robots needs teachers. You can do a lot of CUSTOM work if you can "teach" them easily enough to make it feasible. So -- you can EXPAND your product offerings and tailor them to a broader market. It's only limited by the number of folks you can hire to make "custom" product variations.

Engineering did become a one-person show. I even had my own "librarian" for research at one time. So this has been happening for 40 years at that end. And it's really not much different at the manufacturing end.

Instead of pressing ONE button 2000 times a day -- the NEW employee writes "scripts" for pressing 2000 buttons at a time. Limited only by product innovation and marketing of new products.

And this is sensitive equipment. Lots of "machine vision", AI, quality control issues, that have to be CONSTANTLY tested and monitored. Plenty of jobs associated with it..

 

[flacaltenn]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

Dean automatically posts the exact same shit daily

hence post no 2.....

Evidence of your stupidity.

Because automation is both getting better and evolving, and with the addition of AI, it's completely new. You thinking it's the "same old thing" only proves beyond a doubt your stupidity. Perhaps you should give up rather than letting me spank you again and again?

The PLAN for Global trade was that we would use "cheap labor" as an interim fix for international parity. And the PLAN was that WE would lead the world into 21st Century Automated manufacturing. That by this time, OUR factories would be the world showcase for all that Fancy Dan stuff.

Didn't happen. Abdication of leadership.. AND -- loss of virtually the entire supply chain of components necessary to MAKE those systems. Can't buy CRAP today domestically in terms of motors, cameras, displays, ---- even the LOWER level components.. Now ALL GONE from our shores. Like a giant sucking wave.

Because TOO much went overseas. And without that supply chain -- we're not fast enough or agile enough to BE the leaders in this field.

Even the Chinese realized years ago that "cheap labor" was doomed. And THEY put in place the incentives and the leadership vision for automating THEIR factories. Don't need us anymore.

We pretty much BLEW the PLAN out of the water with anti-business, over-regulation and lack of enthusiasm for getting OUR KIDS into the STEM fields.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

It’s because like Trump most on the right are liars.

Conservative credo: repeat a lie often enough in the hope it’s perceived to be ‘true.’

 

[deanrd]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

It’s because like Trump most on the right are liars.

Conservative credo: repeat a lie often enough in the hope it’s perceived to be ‘true.’

That is absolutely the truth.

 

[Lumpy 1]

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[Harry Dresden]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

Dean automatically posts the exact same shit daily

hence post no 2.....

Evidence of your stupidity.

Because automation is both getting better and evolving, and with the addition of AI, it's completely new. You thinking it's the "same old thing" only proves beyond a doubt your stupidity. Perhaps you should give up rather than letting me spank you again and again?

i believe you just proved your stupidity dumbass...by not grasping what i said about your same old shit posts...are you not tired of me and dozens of others here spanking you?....here let me do it one more time.....

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[Harry Dresden]

Definition of automation
1:the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically

:the state of being operated automatically

:automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Definition of AUTOMATION

No matter how many times it's pointed out that manufacturing has doubled in the last few decades and 87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated, right wingers on the USMB still keep insisting Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.

Why?

Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

It’s because like Trump most on the right are liars.

Conservative credo: repeat a lie often enough in the hope it’s perceived to be ‘true.’

jones credo:....throw some bullshit post up and never answer any question someone might ask and then run to another thread and do it again....

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Trump is bringing millions jobs back into the country.
Don't they understand this is a ridiculous and wild claim? Why keep making it?

why ridiculous? China has 100 million manufacturing jobs many of which came from the USA thanks to liberal taxes, liberal unions, liberal trade agreements and liberal budget deficits. Do you understand?