Do Americans know that China is a communist country?

Some USMB members have suggested that China has become a capitalistic society.

I pointed out that even China describes itself as a "communist country" and our government sees China as a "communist country" and in spite of that, there are some that say China is not only a "capitalistic society", but the leader of the country is actually the CEO.

Is this a "mainstream" belief? Does it come from mostly one party?

China can call itself whatever it wants, the simple fact of the matter is that China has a mixed-economy. If they were a truly communist country they'd be a third-world country just like North Korea. Did you know the Chinese Communist Party accepts open capitalists into its ranks? China is communist in name only.

Actually China was a full blown communist country. They saw the flaws in that system and have slowly moved away from it.
 
China is a communist corporation. UScitizen said that and he/she was spot on!

The commies are gonna win yet after 100 years of the west trying to destroy them.

Worse yet we are fulfilling Stalin's prophecy that " capitalists would sell you the rope to hang them with". Via our debt of course.

Doesn't that make you feel proud?

You think America is trying to destroy China? How much American rope do you think is sold in China?

You got it backwards. The USA is selling China the debt to hang us with. $2.3 trillion worth.

The big secret is debt cant hurt us, not our debt, we print the money, if China wants to dump the dollar I say we buy it all. Why not, we can just start printing money. Dont you think the rich and powerful can manipulate the markets and in a minute make China eat all that debt.

I tell you what, if I was the leader of the world, I mean the USA, I would just start printing the money to give to China. Thats the funny part, they can sell it, we can buy it, but they got to accept US dollars. They sell everything and get useless US dollars.

We are that powerful. Its great.
 
Some USMB members have suggested that China has become a capitalistic society.

I pointed out that even China describes itself as a "communist country" and our government sees China as a "communist country" and in spite of that, there are some that say China is not only a "capitalistic society", but the leader of the country is actually the CEO.

Is this a "mainstream" belief? Does it come from mostly one party?

You need to educate yourself from places other than Huffpoo, KOS, and DU(h).
 
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Do Democrats know that theirs is a communist party?

Some USMB members have suggested that Democrats has become a capitalistic party.

I pointed out that even Democrats describes itself as a "wealth redistributors" and the Communist Party USA sees Democrat Party as a wholly owned subsidiary and in spite of that, there are some that say the Democrat Party is not only a "capitalistic party" but Obama is an effective CEO

Is this a "mainstream" belief? Does it come from mostly one party?
 
Do Americans know that China is a communist country?

No, I think China is dinnerware and has no politics.

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Some USMB members have suggested that China has become a capitalistic society.

I pointed out that even China describes itself as a "communist country" and our government sees China as a "communist country" and in spite of that, there are some that say China is not only a "capitalistic society", but the leader of the country is actually the CEO.

Is this a "mainstream" belief? Does it come from mostly one party?

China can call itself whatever it wants, the simple fact of the matter is that China has a mixed-economy. If they were a truly communist country they'd be a third-world country just like North Korea. Did you know the Chinese Communist Party accepts open capitalists into its ranks? China is communist in name only.

Actually China was a full blown communist country. They saw the flaws in that system and have slowly moved away from it.

Yes, they were under Mao, but like you say they began to move away from communism after his death. The level of growth they've undergone would not have been possible under communism.
 
China can call itself whatever it wants, the simple fact of the matter is that China has a mixed-economy. If they were a truly communist country they'd be a third-world country just like North Korea. Did you know the Chinese Communist Party accepts open capitalists into its ranks? China is communist in name only.

Actually China was a full blown communist country. They saw the flaws in that system and have slowly moved away from it.

Yes, they were under Mao, but like you say they began to move away from communism after his death. The level of growth they've undergone would not have been possible under communism.

Yet they are not a free system. The people are still under the control of the government. They cannot speak out against the government without fear of death.
 
Actually China was a full blown communist country. They saw the flaws in that system and have slowly moved away from it.

Yes, they were under Mao, but like you say they began to move away from communism after his death. The level of growth they've undergone would not have been possible under communism.

Yet they are not a free system. The people are still under the control of the government. They cannot speak out against the government without fear of death.

Well the claim was that they were a communist country, which is an economic system not a political system in and of itself. It's true that they are an authoritarian state.
 
Yes, they were under Mao, but like you say they began to move away from communism after his death. The level of growth they've undergone would not have been possible under communism.

Yet they are not a free system. The people are still under the control of the government. They cannot speak out against the government without fear of death.

Well the claim was that they were a communist country, which is an economic system not a political system in and of itself. It's true that they are an authoritarian state.

IOW China is the very first truly communist state.
 
Yet they are not a free system. The people are still under the control of the government. They cannot speak out against the government without fear of death.

Well the claim was that they were a communist country, which is an economic system not a political system in and of itself. It's true that they are an authoritarian state.

IOW China is the very first truly communist state.

Are we not counting the Soviet Union?
 
Next time you pull this 5h17 I will neg you. That was uncalled for.

What kind of fantasy universe, short on oxygen, do yo live in that you would ever make that anti intellectual leap? I think I have been very civil with you on this issue, but you are really pushing the ethical envelope here.

I have discovered a new label for you : Ignoranus And I think that is the way I will address you from now on.

Hell. It is time for neg rep anyway.

Ignoranus.

You're the one who said, "But what they seem to have achieved is sort of what Mussolini was going for with his ideal of a corporate state".

Add the fact that most, if not all right wingers have only terrible things to say about our government.

Add in this insult, "Why has the obvious escaped you till very recently" and I believe my question was fair.

So you don't like their government. You don't like our government. What kind of government do you like?

Unless you live in total chaos, with no food, air, water, road or any kind of safety, and no military, VA, Social Security, no NASA, no technology no nothing, what kind of government do you like?

I have been on this board a good long time, and we have posted back and forth a lot, and you know where I stand on this stuff. You know that none of us "Right Wingers" have much of anything to say about Musso or Adolf, or their variations of socialism.

That is why I am calling on you to apolgise for your gross insult. You know what I have written about this kind of thing, and that remark was way uncalled for.

there is a limit to stupid. I know you have the IQ of a stunned gerbil, but even you know better than this. It was just a pointless and stupid snarkiness all the worse for being morally wrong.

All your posting seems to imply there are only two ways, Stupid straw or your insanity de jour.

As we have all made very clear to you, us righties like limited democratic government that protects the nation and the people from violence, and maintains the roads. It does not preach to us, it does not use us, it does not rule us, it does not take money from us to waste on frivolity, when we can waste our money better.

Now crawl back under your rock and stay there.

And that's the problem with the right wing. They try desperately to simplify everything. On one hand, they say "limited government", but then promote the most intrusive government you could possibly imagine with laws against gays and women's rights, the patriot act and so on.

When they say "limited government" they really mean "give corporations a free hand to do anything they want".

Our government is made up of our neighbors that we vote into office, yet the right wing goes on endlessly about the government being some kind of shadowy conspiratorial cabal who wants to "rule us" and "take away our freedoms".

They say they don't want the government to "preach" to us, but do that with their continuous need to interject "Gawd" into science and public schools. Does it bother them that those of us without mystical or supernatural beliefs may not want our children exposed to such nonsense? No, it doesn't. They can't see the "other side" because they are the "party of patriotism and morals", only they aren't.

And that terrible lack of education. It hamstrings the entire nation. What they consider "frivolous spending", many leftwingers see as "research" and "investing in our future".

So go ahead and feel all insulted and angry. The nation is at war. A war between the future and turning us into a "Christian Taliban".
 
You're the one who said, "But what they seem to have achieved is sort of what Mussolini was going for with his ideal of a corporate state".

Add the fact that most, if not all right wingers have only terrible things to say about our government.

Add in this insult, "Why has the obvious escaped you till very recently" and I believe my question was fair.

So you don't like their government. You don't like our government. What kind of government do you like?

Unless you live in total chaos, with no food, air, water, road or any kind of safety, and no military, VA, Social Security, no NASA, no technology no nothing, what kind of government do you like?

I have been on this board a good long time, and we have posted back and forth a lot, and you know where I stand on this stuff. You know that none of us "Right Wingers" have much of anything to say about Musso or Adolf, or their variations of socialism.

That is why I am calling on you to apolgise for your gross insult. You know what I have written about this kind of thing, and that remark was way uncalled for.

there is a limit to stupid. I know you have the IQ of a stunned gerbil, but even you know better than this. It was just a pointless and stupid snarkiness all the worse for being morally wrong.

All your posting seems to imply there are only two ways, Stupid straw or your insanity de jour.

As we have all made very clear to you, us righties like limited democratic government that protects the nation and the people from violence, and maintains the roads. It does not preach to us, it does not use us, it does not rule us, it does not take money from us to waste on frivolity, when we can waste our money better.

Now crawl back under your rock and stay there.

And that's the problem with the right wing. They try desperately to simplify everything. On one hand, they say "limited government", but then promote the most intrusive government you could possibly imagine with laws against gays and women's rights, the patriot act and so on.

When they say "limited government" they really mean "give corporations a free hand to do anything they want".

Our government is made up of our neighbors that we vote into office, yet the right wing goes on endlessly about the government being some kind of shadowy conspiratorial cabal who wants to "rule us" and "take away our freedoms".

They say they don't want the government to "preach" to us, but do that with their continuous need to interject "Gawd" into science and public schools. Does it bother them that those of us without mystical or supernatural beliefs may not want our children exposed to such nonsense? No, it doesn't. They can't see the "other side" because they are the "party of patriotism and morals", only they aren't.

And that terrible lack of education. It hamstrings the entire nation. What they consider "frivolous spending", many leftwingers see as "research" and "investing in our future".

So go ahead and feel all insulted and angry. The nation is at war. A war between the future and turning us into a "Christian Taliban".

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I have been on this board a good long time, and we have posted back and forth a lot, and you know where I stand on this stuff. You know that none of us "Right Wingers" have much of anything to say about Musso or Adolf, or their variations of socialism.

That is why I am calling on you to apolgise for your gross insult. You know what I have written about this kind of thing, and that remark was way uncalled for.

there is a limit to stupid. I know you have the IQ of a stunned gerbil, but even you know better than this. It was just a pointless and stupid snarkiness all the worse for being morally wrong.

All your posting seems to imply there are only two ways, Stupid straw or your insanity de jour.

As we have all made very clear to you, us righties like limited democratic government that protects the nation and the people from violence, and maintains the roads. It does not preach to us, it does not use us, it does not rule us, it does not take money from us to waste on frivolity, when we can waste our money better.

Now crawl back under your rock and stay there.

And that's the problem with the right wing. They try desperately to simplify everything. On one hand, they say "limited government", but then promote the most intrusive government you could possibly imagine with laws against gays and women's rights, the patriot act and so on.

When they say "limited government" they really mean "give corporations a free hand to do anything they want".

Our government is made up of our neighbors that we vote into office, yet the right wing goes on endlessly about the government being some kind of shadowy conspiratorial cabal who wants to "rule us" and "take away our freedoms".

They say they don't want the government to "preach" to us, but do that with their continuous need to interject "Gawd" into science and public schools. Does it bother them that those of us without mystical or supernatural beliefs may not want our children exposed to such nonsense? No, it doesn't. They can't see the "other side" because they are the "party of patriotism and morals", only they aren't.

And that terrible lack of education. It hamstrings the entire nation. What they consider "frivolous spending", many leftwingers see as "research" and "investing in our future".

So go ahead and feel all insulted and angry. The nation is at war. A war between the future and turning us into a "Christian Taliban".

The rdean Macro Function.

OP= Subject+ Republicans
All replies, irrespective of the post replied to = "Republicans are Stupid"
Repeat.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Repeat.

I can't tell if you're complaining or boasting.

I notice you didn't say, "This part is wrong". Why? Because we both know you can't.

This part right here has got to be a real "headscratcher" for your kind:

Our government is made up of our neighbors that we vote into office, yet the right wing goes on endlessly about the government being some kind of shadowy conspiratorial cabal who wants to "rule us" and "take away our freedoms".

Then Frank wails: But they ARE a, "shadowy conspiratorial cabal who wants to "rule us" and "take away our freedoms"."
 
Well the claim was that they were a communist country, which is an economic system not a political system in and of itself. It's true that they are an authoritarian state.

IOW China is the very first truly communist state.

Are we not counting the Soviet Union?

There is no way the SU meets the definition of a commyist state. They were a pure autocratic state that never had a transition from socialism toward commyism and their revolution was carried out by 5% of their population for political reasons moreso than as an economic revolution.

Only China has managed to combine the economic elements of communism with the political elements of a top down state, albeit with a somewhat freeish market domestic economy.
 
IOW China is the very first truly communist state.

Are we not counting the Soviet Union?

There is no way the SU meets the definition of a commyist state. They were a pure autocratic state that never had a transition from socialism toward commyism and their revolution was carried out by 5% of their population for political reasons moreso than as an economic revolution.

Only China has managed to combine the economic elements of communism with the political elements of a top down state, albeit with a somewhat freeish market domestic economy.

Well if we go by those guidelines then we can safely say there has never been a communist state, including China.
 

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