Do Americans favor the creation of a public health insurance?

[jreeves]

Poor Americans, it is so sad to know you will die without Health Insurance. How sad, how pitiful, how truly capitalistic.

I have health insurance hack, so does 95% of Americans. Poor Canadians they have to come to America receive treatments that aren't available in their country. Poor Canadians they have to wait months for simple procedures and simple medical imaging. Then when they do receive medical imaging who knows if it is accurate because the equipment is 20 or 30 years old....

 

[Political Junky]

Poor Americans, it is so sad to know you will die without Health Insurance. How sad, how pitiful, how truly capitalistic.

I have health insurance hack, so does 95% of Americans. Poor Canadians they have to come to America receive treatments that aren't available in their country. Poor Canadians they have to wait months for simple procedures and simple medical imaging. Then when they do receive medical imaging who knows if it is accurate because the equipment is 20 or 30 years old....

You have fallen for all the propaganda fed you by the AMA, pharmaceutical, and insurance companies. Do some research for yourself. Aren't you curious?

 

[Political Junky]

LOL, Hennesssey worked for the Bush administration. You really trust his numbers?

then prove the numbers wrong and you better not use any figures given by someone from the Obama or Clinton administrations or any democrat now serving or any lobby groups pushing for government health care because clearly none of them can be trusted to tell the truth if it means they have to stop telling us that health care is a "ticking time bomb"

I feel just the opposite of you. You probably believe the crap that tobacco companies feed you about tobacco not being bad for you.

 

[jreeves]

Poor Americans, it is so sad to know you will die without Health Insurance. How sad, how pitiful, how truly capitalistic.

I have health insurance hack, so does 95% of Americans. Poor Canadians they have to come to America receive treatments that aren't available in their country. Poor Canadians they have to wait months for simple procedures and simple medical imaging. Then when they do receive medical imaging who knows if it is accurate because the equipment is 20 or 30 years old....

You have fallen for all the propaganda fed you by the AMA, pharmaceutical, and insurance companies. Do some research for yourself. Aren't you curious?

I have done my own research and posted some of it here. Now if you want to debate some of the facts I have posted then go ahead.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Poor Americans, it is so sad to know you will die without Health Insurance. How sad, how pitiful, how truly capitalistic.

don't you worry about me Puke-On My insurance is just fine thank you

 

[Yukon]

Believe whatever you wish to about the Canadian Health Care System. Ours is the best in the world, Canadian health care is available to ALL Canadians. Americans are brainwashed by the Insurance Companies to believe our system is inferior. How really sad you people are, how truly pathetic.....

 

[KittenKoder]

LOL, Hennesssey worked for the Bush administration. You really trust his numbers?

then prove the numbers wrong and you better not use any figures given by someone from the Obama or Clinton administrations or any democrat now serving or any lobby groups pushing for government health care because clearly none of them can be trusted to tell the truth if it means they have to stop telling us that health care is a "ticking time bomb"

I feel just the opposite of you. You probably believe the crap that tobacco companies feed you about tobacco not being bad for you.

Um ... tobacco companies never made that claim/denial. Not once has anyone shown where tobacco companies have actually said their product is "good" for you ... but on the flip side, the rather deadly "health" food do all the time ... double standard much?

 

[Political Junky]

then prove the numbers wrong and you better not use any figures given by someone from the Obama or Clinton administrations or any democrat now serving or any lobby groups pushing for government health care because clearly none of them can be trusted to tell the truth if it means they have to stop telling us that health care is a "ticking time bomb"

I feel just the opposite of you. You probably believe the crap that tobacco companies feed you about tobacco not being bad for you.

Um ... tobacco companies never made that claim/denial. Not once has anyone shown where tobacco companies have actually said their product is "good" for you ... but on the flip side, the rather deadly "health" food do all the time ... double standard much?

My, you are uninformed. You never saw the hearings where tobacco and their hired doctors stated that cigarettes don't cause cancer?

 

[Political Junky]

Poor Americans, it is so sad to know you will die without Health Insurance. How sad, how pitiful, how truly capitalistic.

I have health insurance hack, so does 95% of Americans. Poor Canadians they have to come to America receive treatments that aren't available in their country. Poor Canadians they have to wait months for simple procedures and simple medical imaging. Then when they do receive medical imaging who knows if it is accurate because the equipment is 20 or 30 years old....

Unfortunately, it's not true that 95% of Americans have health insurance.

 

[KittenKoder]

I feel just the opposite of you. You probably believe the crap that tobacco companies feed you about tobacco not being bad for you.

Um ... tobacco companies never made that claim/denial. Not once has anyone shown where tobacco companies have actually said their product is "good" for you ... but on the flip side, the rather deadly "health" food do all the time ... double standard much?

My, you are uninformed. You never saw the hearings where tobacco and their hired doctors stated that cigarettes don't cause cancer?

First, that isn't saying it's "good" for you, secondly they had no evidence and still have very little, though I won't say it doesn't, I also won't believe it until I see some hard evidence. so far, what does cause lung cancer is in the smoke, but then it's also in many other products that are labeled as "good" for you, yet those are not attacked at all. To add to the hypocrisy of the anti-smoking lobby, the other sources of said chemicals are not only in much larger usage but also completely unavoidable. Tobacco companies put out a product, people choose whether to buy it or not, if people use anything without first looking up the information themselves, then they are the fools not the company.

Are you a fool who needs the government to tell you what to think and what's "good" for you? Again, all the "healthy" food products contain cancer causing chemicals (with even stronger evidence than tobacco to support that) yet they are not only allowed, they can claim they are "healthy" and "good" for you.

 

[Yukon]

Approximately 45 million Americans have NO Health Insurance.

 

[jreeves]

Believe whatever you wish to about the Canadian Health Care System. Ours is the best in the world, Canadian health care is available to ALL Canadians. Americans are brainwashed by the Insurance Companies to believe our system is inferior. How really sad you people are, how truly pathetic.....

As usual, there are no facts associated with your posts only your personal opinion.

 

[Political Junky]

I have health insurance hack, so does 95% of Americans. Poor Canadians they have to come to America receive treatments that aren't available in their country. Poor Canadians they have to wait months for simple procedures and simple medical imaging. Then when they do receive medical imaging who knows if it is accurate because the equipment is 20 or 30 years old....

You have fallen for all the propaganda fed you by the AMA, pharmaceutical, and insurance companies. Do some research for yourself. Aren't you curious?

I have done my own research and posted some of it here. Now if you want to debate some of the facts I have posted then go ahead.

I read some of your information on NZ healthcare and it looks like they have great health coverage.

 

[jreeves]

Poor Americans, it is so sad to know you will die without Health Insurance. How sad, how pitiful, how truly capitalistic.

I have health insurance hack, so does 95% of Americans. Poor Canadians they have to come to America receive treatments that aren't available in their country. Poor Canadians they have to wait months for simple procedures and simple medical imaging. Then when they do receive medical imaging who knows if it is accurate because the equipment is 20 or 30 years old....

Unfortunately, it's not true that 95% of Americans have health insurance.

U.S. POPClock Projection

Health Care Lie: '47 Million Uninsured Americans'
The number of the uninsured who aren’t citizens is nearly 10 million on its own, invalidating all the claims of 40+ million “Americans” without health insurance.



“It’s really indefensible that we now have more than 45 million uninsured Americans, 9 million of whom are children, and the vast majority of whom are from working families,” said Sen. Hillary Clinton in a May 31 speech.



It was typical spin and easy to find. ABC medical expert Dr. Tim Johnson cited the incorrect data as he praised a "bold" and "politically brilliant" universal coverage plan on the April 26 “Good Morning America.”



“It’s bold because it does propose to cover all Americans, including the 47 million now who are uninsured, within five years,” said Johnson.



In his propagandumentary “SiCKO” that favored the socialist health care systems of Canada, Britain, France and Cuba, Michael Moore made the fantastic claim that almost 50 million Americans are uninsured.



“SiCKO: There are nearly 50 million Americans without health insurance,” quoted Moore’s Web site.



However, the Census Bureau report “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2005,” puts the initial number of uninsured people living in the country at 46.577 million.



A closer look at that report reveals the Census data include 9.487 million people who are “not a citizen.” Subtracting the 10 million non-Americans, the number of uninsured Americans falls to roughly 37 million.



Moore should have paid attention to that fact, since he agrees that being “an American” matters to get health insurance.



“That’s the only preexisting condition that should exist. I am an American. That’s it,” said Moore in footage aired by ABC’s “Nightline” on June 13.



That isn’t the only problem with the numbers currently being used.

Subtracting non-citizens and those who can afford their own insurance but choose not to purchase it, about 20 million people are left – less than 7 percent of the population.

Turner also pointed out that “45 percent of the uninsured are going to have insurance within four months [according to the Congressional Budget Office],” because many are transitioning between jobs and most people get health insurance through their employers.

http://www.aei.org/issue/27131
Statement 2: Some 47 million Americans do not have health insurance.

This number from the Census Bureau is often cited as evidence that the health system is failing for many American families. Yet by masking tremendous heterogeneity in personal circumstances, the figure exaggerates the magnitude of the problem.

To start with, the 47 million includes about 10 million residents who are not American citizens. Many are illegal immigrants. Even if we had national health insurance, they would probably not be covered.

The number also fails to take full account of Medicaid, the government's health program for the poor. For instance, it counts millions of the poor who are eligible for Medicaid but have not yet applied. These individuals, who are healthier, on average, than those who are enrolled, could always apply if they ever needed significant medical care. They are uninsured in name only.

The 47 million also includes many who could buy insurance but have not. The Census Bureau reports that 18 million of the uninsured have annual household incomes of more than $50,000, which puts them in the top half of the income distribution. About a quarter of the uninsured have been offered employer-provided insurance but declined coverage.

Of course, millions of Americans have trouble getting health insurance. But they number far less than 47 million, and they make up only a few percent of the population of 300 million.

Any reform should carefully focus on this group to avoid disrupting the vast majority for whom the system is working. We do not nationalize an industry simply because a small percentage of the workforce is unemployed. Similarly, we should be wary of sweeping reforms of our health system if they are motivated by the fact that a small percentage of the population is uninsured.

 

[Political Junky]

Believe whatever you wish to about the Canadian Health Care System. Ours is the best in the world, Canadian health care is available to ALL Canadians. Americans are brainwashed by the Insurance Companies to believe our system is inferior. How really sad you people are, how truly pathetic.....

As usual, there no facts associated with your posts only your personal opinion.

Yes, personal opinion based on experience with the Canadian system, of which you have none.

 

[jreeves]

You have fallen for all the propaganda fed you by the AMA, pharmaceutical, and insurance companies. Do some research for yourself. Aren't you curious?

I have done my own research and posted some of it here. Now if you want to debate some of the facts I have posted then go ahead.

I read some of your information on NZ healthcare and it looks like they have great health coverage.

That's the reason a third of NZ's that can afford private insurance run for it, correct?

 

[jreeves]

Believe whatever you wish to about the Canadian Health Care System. Ours is the best in the world, Canadian health care is available to ALL Canadians. Americans are brainwashed by the Insurance Companies to believe our system is inferior. How really sad you people are, how truly pathetic.....

As usual, there no facts associated with your posts only your personal opinion.

Yes, personal opinion based on experience with the Canadian system, of which you have none.

Your personal opinion with no facts is duly noted....

 

[Yukon]

Canadian Health Care System is the BEST in the world. USA health care System is NON-EXISTANT.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Believe whatever you wish to about the Canadian Health Care System. Ours is the best in the world, Canadian health care is available to ALL Canadians. Americans are brainwashed by the Insurance Companies to believe our system is inferior. How really sad you people are, how truly pathetic.....

As usual, there no facts associated with your posts only your personal opinion.

Yes, personal opinion based on experience with the Canadian system, of which you have none.

then PJ you or Pukon show us a stat that shows Canada having the finest in the world....i will even settle for top 3....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Canadian Health Care System is the BEST in the world. USA health care System is NON-EXISTANT.

show us proof oh Chrissy of the North....

according to this your a fucking liar....

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html