Do American Christians serve god or money?

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    No one can serve two masters; for a slave with either hate the one and love the other, or be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. Matthew 6:24

    3 If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? James 2:3-4

    People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. Timothy 6:9

    17 Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment.
    18 Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share.
    19 In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life. Timothy 6:17-19

    A faithful man will be richly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished. Proverbs 28:20




    Some of the people I see who are most obsessed with money, getting rich and being wealthy are those of religious faith, particularly Christian religious faith. Why is this? Many churches themselves are just money generating machines.

    Is this monetary infatuation and the trust in wealth generating institutions simply a coincidence, or are many Christians betraying the bible?

    And why do they never, EVER stop to question what they do and the way they act? Whenever they face up against a quote from the bible, or an onslaught of quotes that describes their actions or the path they are taking they are very quick to dismiss the bible and say it is taken "out of context".

    When the rich get "commanded" to be generous, it is the religious right who fight back most fervently, taking the side of the rich and opposing that of the poor.
     
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    They serve Mammon or Joel Orsteen.
     
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    A true God loving Christian will serve Him. If they truly worship Him, He makes sure you have all you need.
     
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    Wrong....for me God gives me all i need. As for Joel Olsteen, he's a false preacher. One of those "feel good" guys that won't teach the entire Bible.....only what his people want to hear.
     
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    They serve "greed" and "hate".
     
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    Joel sure tells the funniest jokes at the beginning of his services. I try to catch the beginning just to get a new joke.

    I like the one about about the bear. I said "run" and my friend said you can't outrun a bear and I said I only need to outrun you.
     
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    Do you believe that a Christian who is very involved in business and who ensures every step of the way that his money is well invested, well protected and always earning more for him, can be as much of a servant of God as he is to his money?

    Now, a normal person would just say... "What do I care? That's between him and god..."

    But you see, many Christians seem to act this way about themselves... the fact that nobody else should be concerned with their value placed on money, as a sort of a shield and self delusion.

    Sure, you say you serve God, but when you spend so much time obsessing over wealth, money and the rich, can you really say with confidence that god is looking at you with praise?
     
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    Some serve God. Some serve money.

    However, your implication that not letting the government rob us is serving money, you are wrong. Its quite the opposite. It's those who want to keep and support themselves that are being charitable. They dont want to be a burden on others. People who want to provide charity for themselves and outsource their responsibilities to the government are the ones who are truly serving God.
     
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    Sorry God, I don't want to be commanded to give more to the needy. I don't want to be commanded to support the poor.

    Avatar4321, I command you not to be so arrogant.
     
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    That is funny! :)
     

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