Disguising Tyrrany

1. If you are on the look-out for tyranny and oppression of the Soviet Union variety, then it is no wonder you don't even realize that you live under almost the same virulent level.

The current brand of tyranny was explained by J.L.Talmon as a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government.





How do they do it?

2. Former NY Senator James Buckley gives the reason:
Today, this federal law is 1700 pages more than it was prior to the New Deal. The reason is the creation of more and more bureaus and agencies endowed with ever broader responsibilities and discretion in defining the rules that govern our activities and our lives.
And these rules have the full force of law!
Congress has increased the number of rules whose infractions are criminalized, waiving the common law requirement that one knows he is breaking the law. Today, one can be jailed for violating a regulation that one had no reason to know even existed!




What once was....and what now is:

3. "... laws in America used to be simple and beautiful.
They were written with care, and citizens could read them quickly and understand their meaning. Of the four organic laws that founded America—the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Northwest Ordinance, and the Constitution of the United States—none of them was more than 4,500 words long.

4. [This example of the kind of writing, from the Northwest Ordinance:]
“Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary for good government and the happiness of mankind, the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2013_12_Imprimis.pdf





5. To understand how the new bureaucratic tyranny works, simply compare that with the Affordable Care Act, 363,086 words, and countless rules and regulations...

'We Have to Pass the Bill to Find Out What's In It' - ...not by accident, and "not readable or comprehensible to any member of Congress who voted for it or to the citizens whose lives it was aimed at manipulating in a detailed and intrusive way."
Ibid.

6. The governing elites might have chosen to use Occitan or Old Norse runes in the writing of laws and regulations, or made it illegal for non-elected officials to even read the laws we must live under.






7. The result is an oppression as firm and ineluctable as actual chains.

And the collectivist regime has taken aim squarely at the economic sector!
In effect, the private sector, the free market, exists no longer...excepted only by way of bribing, lobbying.

" The evidence is overwhelming that the Obama regulatory surge is one reason the current economic recovery has been so lackluster by historical standards.

Rather than nurture an economy trying to rebuild confidence after a financial heart attack, the Administration pushed through its now-famous blitz of liberal policies on health care, financial services, energy, housing, education and student loans, telecom, labor relations, transportation and probably some other industries we've forgotten. Anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on business has never been in business." Review & Outlook: Regulation for Dummies - WSJ.com






And anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on liberty has never understood America.

Big business is doing awesome right now, it just isn't trickling down for some reason. Could it be that they like us happy just to have a shitty no raise ever job rather than homeless and destitute?



The problem is obvious: Obama.


Consider the facts....under Obama, unemployment, stagnant recovery, over regulation, and ObamaCare.


Compare that to the policies of Ronald Reagan....tax cuts, encouragement of business, and astounding recovery!

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/08/news/economy/reagan_years_taxes/



1. ... the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


2. “As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury Tee Hee: Sorry, we recently made changes to our web sites and the page you are looking for may have been removed, had its page address changed, may not exist, or is temporarily unavailable.
The benefits from Reaganomics:
a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP

f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary Man Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116



These are the facts. LOL, they are stats, and as Mark Twain wrote, "there are liars, damn liars and statistics".

As is this: Obama and his socialist policies don't work. Define your meaning of "socialist policies" and in your own words detail why they will not work.When will you realize that?

Ad Nausea ^^^
 
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Interesting: "If you are on the look-out for tyranny and oppression of the Soviet Union variety, then it is no wonder you don't even realize that you live under almost the same virulent level."

Did you give any links to USSR and Russian examples?
 
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1. ... the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm

Reagan's tax cuts, and the deficits that followed, were the beginning of the tax cut death spiral that has put us in the fiscal mess we're in today.

The Reagan 'stimulative' tax cut was followed by 15 months of recession.

The deficit (adjusted for inflation) was 165 billion in 1981. It was followed by 13 years of 200 billion+ deficits, 8 of those over 300 billion.

That's about a 4 trillion dollar borrow and spend government stimulus program.

That's the Republican formula for 'prosperity'.



Wrong, as usual......


So early in the year to make mincemeat out of you ....but, that's your perennial role, so here goes:
1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.

George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ.com

and

Reaganomics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I noticed yesterday that you have a problem with decimal points....so, a tutorial in advace:

$17 trillion is ten times more.....i.e., better, than $1.7 trillion.


Take notes.



Heck....you might as well leave that egg on your face......

lol, someone arguing FOR massive deficits. You don't see that often.

None of your numbers proved any of my numbers wrong. Changing the subject is not debating. It's changing the subject.

The points I made stand unopposed.

The deficit vs. national wealth figures you cite are actually an indictment of Reagan's policies because

debt is supposed to be paid down as the economy expands. That's called fiscal responsiblity. Neither Reagan nor GW Bush made any serious effort to even reduce the annual deficits,

let alone pay down the debt.
 
1. If you are on the look-out for tyranny and oppression of the Soviet Union variety, then it is no wonder you don't even realize that you live under almost the same virulent level.

The current brand of tyranny was explained by J.L.Talmon as a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government.





How do they do it?

2. Former NY Senator James Buckley gives the reason:
Today, this federal law is 1700 pages more than it was prior to the New Deal. The reason is the creation of more and more bureaus and agencies endowed with ever broader responsibilities and discretion in defining the rules that govern our activities and our lives.
And these rules have the full force of law!
Congress has increased the number of rules whose infractions are criminalized, waiving the common law requirement that one knows he is breaking the law. Today, one can be jailed for violating a regulation that one had no reason to know even existed!




What once was....and what now is:

3. "... laws in America used to be simple and beautiful.
They were written with care, and citizens could read them quickly and understand their meaning. Of the four organic laws that founded America—the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Northwest Ordinance, and the Constitution of the United States—none of them was more than 4,500 words long.

4. [This example of the kind of writing, from the Northwest Ordinance:]
“Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary for good government and the happiness of mankind, the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2013_12_Imprimis.pdf





5. To understand how the new bureaucratic tyranny works, simply compare that with the Affordable Care Act, 363,086 words, and countless rules and regulations...

'We Have to Pass the Bill to Find Out What's In It' - ...not by accident, and "not readable or comprehensible to any member of Congress who voted for it or to the citizens whose lives it was aimed at manipulating in a detailed and intrusive way."
Ibid.

6. The governing elites might have chosen to use Occitan or Old Norse runes in the writing of laws and regulations, or made it illegal for non-elected officials to even read the laws we must live under.






7. The result is an oppression as firm and ineluctable as actual chains.

And the collectivist regime has taken aim squarely at the economic sector!
In effect, the private sector, the free market, exists no longer...excepted only by way of bribing, lobbying.

" The evidence is overwhelming that the Obama regulatory surge is one reason the current economic recovery has been so lackluster by historical standards.

Rather than nurture an economy trying to rebuild confidence after a financial heart attack, the Administration pushed through its now-famous blitz of liberal policies on health care, financial services, energy, housing, education and student loans, telecom, labor relations, transportation and probably some other industries we've forgotten. Anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on business has never been in business." Review & Outlook: Regulation for Dummies - WSJ.com




And anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on liberty has never understood America.

I'm sorry I wasn't listening. What?
 
Big business is doing awesome right now, it just isn't trickling down for some reason. Could it be that they like us happy just to have a shitty no raise ever job rather than homeless and destitute?



The problem is obvious: Obama.


Consider the facts....under Obama, unemployment, stagnant recovery, over regulation, and ObamaCare.


Compare that to the policies of Ronald Reagan....tax cuts, encouragement of business, and astounding recovery!

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/08/news/economy/reagan_years_taxes/



1. ... the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


2. “As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury Tee Hee: Sorry, we recently made changes to our web sites and the page you are looking for may have been removed, had its page address changed, may not exist, or is temporarily unavailable.
The benefits from Reaganomics:
a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP

f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary Man Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116



These are the facts. LOL, they are stats, and as Mark Twain wrote, "there are liars, damn liars and statistics".

As is this: Obama and his socialist policies don't work. Define your meaning of "socialist policies" and in your own words detail why they will not work.When will you realize that?

Ad Nausea ^^^



There is one of old truisms that says "The only places one finds justice is the dictionary and the cemetery."


For the most part, I believe that.





So, it comes as an unmitigated pleasure when I find justice outside of those venues....

...and your admission as to the effect that the post had this effect on you:

"Ad Nausea"


....was heart-warming....invigorating.....even inspiring.
Couldn't happen to a nicer.


My work here is done.
 
Interesting: "If you are on the look-out for tyranny and oppression of the Soviet Union variety, then it is no wonder you don't even realize that you live under almost the same virulent level."

Did you give any links to USSR and Russian examples?





Are you serious?


You're doubting "tyranny and oppression of the Soviet Union"?????


Whenever I post what a dunce you are, please, simply remind me of the kind of things you post yourself.....
 
1. If you are on the look-out for tyranny and oppression of the Soviet Union variety, then it is no wonder you don't even realize that you live under almost the same virulent level.

The current brand of tyranny was explained by J.L.Talmon as a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government.





How do they do it?

2. Former NY Senator James Buckley gives the reason:
Today, this federal law is 1700 pages more than it was prior to the New Deal. The reason is the creation of more and more bureaus and agencies endowed with ever broader responsibilities and discretion in defining the rules that govern our activities and our lives.
And these rules have the full force of law!
Congress has increased the number of rules whose infractions are criminalized, waiving the common law requirement that one knows he is breaking the law. Today, one can be jailed for violating a regulation that one had no reason to know even existed!




What once was....and what now is:

3. "... laws in America used to be simple and beautiful.
They were written with care, and citizens could read them quickly and understand their meaning. Of the four organic laws that founded America—the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Northwest Ordinance, and the Constitution of the United States—none of them was more than 4,500 words long.

4. [This example of the kind of writing, from the Northwest Ordinance:]
“Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary for good government and the happiness of mankind, the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2013_12_Imprimis.pdf





5. To understand how the new bureaucratic tyranny works, simply compare that with the Affordable Care Act, 363,086 words, and countless rules and regulations...

'We Have to Pass the Bill to Find Out What's In It' - ...not by accident, and "not readable or comprehensible to any member of Congress who voted for it or to the citizens whose lives it was aimed at manipulating in a detailed and intrusive way."
Ibid.

6. The governing elites might have chosen to use Occitan or Old Norse runes in the writing of laws and regulations, or made it illegal for non-elected officials to even read the laws we must live under.






7. The result is an oppression as firm and ineluctable as actual chains.

And the collectivist regime has taken aim squarely at the economic sector!
In effect, the private sector, the free market, exists no longer...excepted only by way of bribing, lobbying.

" The evidence is overwhelming that the Obama regulatory surge is one reason the current economic recovery has been so lackluster by historical standards.

Rather than nurture an economy trying to rebuild confidence after a financial heart attack, the Administration pushed through its now-famous blitz of liberal policies on health care, financial services, energy, housing, education and student loans, telecom, labor relations, transportation and probably some other industries we've forgotten. Anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on business has never been in business." Review & Outlook: Regulation for Dummies - WSJ.com




And anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on liberty has never understood America.

I'm sorry I wasn't listening. What?






OMG!

The very same answer you gave throughout your schooling.



Billy 000IQ......Just between the two of us….are you just a leeeeettttle disappointed at how you turned out?
 
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The biggest disguise - the umbrella - IMO, is to champion democracy. Even some Republicans say it is good thing now.

The debate over democracy raged in the revolutionary era, and the conclusion, ultimately, was that government by the whims and passions of the people be confined to one chamber in the legislature.

Few people recognize that democracy is usurping our republicanism. This majority tyranny is the big disguise.
 
The problem is obvious: Obama.


Consider the facts....under Obama, unemployment, stagnant recovery, over regulation, and ObamaCare.


Compare that to the policies of Ronald Reagan....tax cuts, encouragement of business, and astounding recovery!

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/08/news/economy/reagan_years_taxes/



1. ... the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


2. “As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury Tee Hee: Sorry, we recently made changes to our web sites and the page you are looking for may have been removed, had its page address changed, may not exist, or is temporarily unavailable.
The benefits from Reaganomics:
a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP

f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary Man Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116



These are the facts. LOL, they are stats, and as Mark Twain wrote, "there are liars, damn liars and statistics".

As is this: Obama and his socialist policies don't work. Define your meaning of "socialist policies" and in your own words detail why they will not work.When will you realize that?

Ad Nausea ^^^



There is one of old truisms that says "The only places one finds justice is the dictionary and the cemetery."


For the most part, I believe that.





So, it comes as an unmitigated pleasure when I find justice outside of those venues....

...and your admission as to the effect that the post had this effect on you:

"Ad Nausea"


....was heart-warming....invigorating.....even inspiring.
Couldn't happen to a nicer.


My work here is done.

Nope, you only make most people sick all of the time.

Now don't get all upset, but I need to ask, how much of what you posted in this thread has been taken from a source not credited? As most of us know, you have a propensity and now a reputation for using the work of others as your own. Granted most of your 'sources' are obscure partisan hacks, but even so, they deserves credit (or ridicule) for their work.

Don't ya think?

Hey, about the style and your use of syntax (no, that's not a tax on sin) I'm curious, did you learn your unique expository writing at Columbia Continuation High School? It's kinda of cool, in an anti-intellectual sort of Bohemian way.
 
The biggest disguise - the umbrella - IMO, is to champion democracy. Even some Republicans say it is good thing now.

The debate over democracy raged in the revolutionary era, and the conclusion, ultimately, was that government by the whims and passions of the people be confined to one chamber in the legislature.

Few people recognize that democracy is usurping our republicanism. This majority tyranny is the big disguise.

Fascists are fond of spitting on democracy, preferring to allow the wealthy elite a large measure of power to themselves and a clear two class society with two rulebooks. Democracy is an ideal, not a system of government, to reject it entirely is to reject the ideal that we the people should have a voice in a transparent government. Are regular everyday citizens just too dumb or something?
 
This herding of the sheeple into the two pens called "Democrats" & "Republicans" is part of what fuels tyranny.

Getting the money out of politics shoould be the first priority.

Idiots like PoliticalChic think it's all Obama's fault. She/it has no desire to look any further back than 2009. The herding of the sheeple in both red and blue states started in the 1970s. And yes, getting the money out of politics would be the answer, but I sure don't know how to take something back that these assholes sure don't want to give up.
 
Ad Nausea ^^^



There is one of old truisms that says "The only places one finds justice is the dictionary and the cemetery."


For the most part, I believe that.





So, it comes as an unmitigated pleasure when I find justice outside of those venues....

...and your admission as to the effect that the post had this effect on you:

"Ad Nausea"


....was heart-warming....invigorating.....even inspiring.
Couldn't happen to a nicer.


My work here is done.

Nope, you only make most people sick all of the time.

Now don't get all upset, but I need to ask, how much of what you posted in this thread has been taken from a source not credited? As most of us know, you have a propensity and now a reputation for using the work of others as your own. Granted most of your 'sources' are obscure partisan hacks, but even so, they deserves credit (or ridicule) for their work.

Don't ya think?

Hey, about the style and your use of syntax (no, that's not a tax on sin) I'm curious, did you learn your unique expository writing at Columbia Continuation High School? It's kinda of cool, in an anti-intellectual sort of Bohemian way.



1. "Nope, you only make most people sick all of the time."

Brilliant!
A "so are you" post!


2. " ...how much of what you posted in this thread has been taken from a source not credited? "

The answer....as you no doubt know.....is none.
How very stupid of you to suggest same when the OP is right there to be seen by all.
Everyone who read the OP knows what a lying gutter-dweller you are.

You are a lying sack of excrement who is so fearful of the beating I regularly give you, that you attempt this slander.



3. "As most of us know, you have a propensity and now a reputation for using the work of others as your own."

Never.

By this calumny you have risen in my estimation all the way up to "scum."


What you have done is reveal how deeply I've cut you in the past....and have no intention of ceasing.

But don't let me keep you: Time for you to go home and set up the “Slip and Slide” so it ends in the knife drawer.
 
This herding of the sheeple into the two pens called "Democrats" & "Republicans" is part of what fuels tyranny.

Getting the money out of politics shoould be the first priority.

Idiots like PoliticalChic think it's all Obama's fault. She/it has no desire to look any further back than 2009. The herding of the sheeple in both red and blue states started in the 1970s. And yes, getting the money out of politics would be the answer, but I sure don't know how to take something back that these assholes sure don't want to give up.





1. "Idiots like PoliticalChic think it's all Obama's fault."

Nay, nay....I believe it is largely the fault of morons who voted for him.

Raise your paw.




2. "...but I sure don't know how..."

You should have a stamp made with that motto.....think of all the time it would save you.
 
The biggest disguise - the umbrella - IMO, is to champion democracy. Even some Republicans say it is good thing now.

The debate over democracy raged in the revolutionary era, and the conclusion, ultimately, was that government by the whims and passions of the people be confined to one chamber in the legislature.

Few people recognize that democracy is usurping our republicanism. This majority tyranny is the big disguise.

Fascists are fond of spitting on democracy, preferring to allow the wealthy elite a large measure of power to themselves and a clear two class society with two rulebooks. Democracy is an ideal, not a system of government, to reject it entirely is to reject the ideal that we the people should have a voice in a transparent government. Are regular everyday citizens just too dumb or something?

You calling Obama, Reid and Pelosi fascists now?
 
This herding of the sheeple into the two pens called "Democrats" & "Republicans" is part of what fuels tyranny.

Getting the money out of politics shoould be the first priority.

Idiots like PoliticalChic think it's all Obama's fault. She/it has no desire to look any further back than 2009. The herding of the sheeple in both red and blue states started in the 1970s. And yes, getting the money out of politics would be the answer, but I sure don't know how to take something back that these assholes sure don't want to give up.

It is no different that the far left Obama drones that still think Bush is in office and have not moved past 2009.
 
If there is tyranny in America why haven't you been afforded air conditioning in your skull behind a back alley yet? Why are you allowed to say the things you are saying? The people of America know nothing about tyranny plain and simple.
 
The people who can't win elections have a bad habit of complaining about 'tyranny'.




Why do you expend vast amounts of effort to prove you're a dope???

Trust me......it is evident.


For example.....you believe that "people who can't win elections have a bad habit of complaining about 'tyranny'."



I can think of some folks who lost an election who had a good reason to 'complain about tyranny'.....

On March 12, 1938, Hitler’s troops rolled over the border from Germany, into Austria. This was the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria into Greater Germany. Three days later, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.
Stefanie Marsh and Bohan Pancevski, “I’m No Monster.”



Seems you're pretty much an uneducated dolt.



Is there any possibility that there are folks who don't know you quite well enough to avoid you, but might support your application for a library card?
 

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