Disguising Tyrrany

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    1. If you are on the look-out for tyranny and oppression of the Soviet Union variety, then it is no wonder you don't even realize that you live under almost the same virulent level.

    The current brand of tyranny was explained by J.L.Talmon as a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government.





    How do they do it?

    2. Former NY Senator James Buckley gives the reason:
    Today, this federal law is 1700 pages more than it was prior to the New Deal. The reason is the creation of more and more bureaus and agencies endowed with ever broader responsibilities and discretion in defining the rules that govern our activities and our lives.
    And these rules have the full force of law!
    Congress has increased the number of rules whose infractions are criminalized, waiving the common law requirement that one knows he is breaking the law. Today, one can be jailed for violating a regulation that one had no reason to know even existed!




    What once was....and what now is:

    3. "... laws in America used to be simple and beautiful.
    They were written with care, and citizens could read them quickly and understand their meaning. Of the four organic laws that founded America—the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Northwest Ordinance, and the Constitution of the United States—none of them was more than 4,500 words long.

    4. [This example of the kind of writing, from the Northwest Ordinance:]
    “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary for good government and the happiness of mankind, the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2013_12_Imprimis.pdf





    5. To understand how the new bureaucratic tyranny works, simply compare that with the Affordable Care Act, 363,086 words, and countless rules and regulations...

    'We Have to Pass the Bill to Find Out What's In It' - ...not by accident, and "not readable or comprehensible to any member of Congress who voted for it or to the citizens whose lives it was aimed at manipulating in a detailed and intrusive way."
    Ibid.

    6. The governing elites might have chosen to use Occitan or Old Norse runes in the writing of laws and regulations, or made it illegal for non-elected officials to even read the laws we must live under.






    7. The result is an oppression as firm and ineluctable as actual chains.

    And the collectivist regime has taken aim squarely at the economic sector!
    In effect, the private sector, the free market, exists no longer...excepted only by way of bribing, lobbying.

    " The evidence is overwhelming that the Obama regulatory surge is one reason the current economic recovery has been so lackluster by historical standards.

    Rather than nurture an economy trying to rebuild confidence after a financial heart attack, the Administration pushed through its now-famous blitz of liberal policies on health care, financial services, energy, housing, education and student loans, telecom, labor relations, transportation and probably some other industries we've forgotten. Anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on business has never been in business." Review & Outlook: Regulation for Dummies - WSJ.com




    And anyone who thinks this has only minimal impact on liberty has never understood America.
     
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    Federalist Papers: FEDERALIST No. 62

    The internal effects of a mutable policy are still more calamitous. It poisons the blessing of liberty itself. It will be of little avail to the people, that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man, who knows what the law is to-day, can guess what it will be to-morrow. Law is defined to be a rule of action; but how can that be a rule, which is little known, and less fixed?
     
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    "Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal." - Martin Luther King, Jr
     
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    Big business is doing awesome right now, it just isn't trickling down for some reason. Could it be that they like us happy just to have a shitty no raise ever job rather than homeless and destitute?
     
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    The problem is obvious: Obama.


    Consider the facts....under Obama, unemployment, stagnant recovery, over regulation, and ObamaCare.


    Compare that to the policies of Ronald Reagan....tax cuts, encouragement of business, and astounding recovery!



    1. ... the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


    2. “As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury

    The benefits from Reaganomics:
    a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
    b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
    c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
    d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
    e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP

    f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary Man Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116



    These are the facts.

    As is this: Obama and his socialist policies don't work.
    When will you realize that?
     
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    LOL

    Don't confuse the Lib with Success stories............

    When they fail it's always someone else's fault..........

    LOL
     
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    Did you see this?

    "40,000 new laws take effect in 2014
    (CNN) - It may have been the least productive year for Congress in history, at least in terms of passing laws – fewer than 60 of which made it through the House and Senate and were signed by President Barack Obama.

    Across the country, however, state lawmakers were busy getting more than 40,000 bills passed, ones that tackle everything from drones to food stamp benefits."
    40,000 new laws take effect in 2014 ? The Lead with Jake Tapper - CNN.com Blogs
     
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    This herding of the sheeple into the two pens called "Democrats" & "Republicans" is part of what fuels tyranny.

    Getting the money out of politics shoould be the first priority.
     
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    I hadn't seen that.........but it doesn't surprise me as we have a Gov't and system now passing laws by FIAT............

    States are trying to comply their laws to the feds in a lot of this............As it destroys our economy, and 5.5 Million families have basically lost insurance............

    Libs shrug, OH WELL............
     
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    Comparing the 80s to the present day as if it were something we can have again is ludicrous. Banking regs in those days were a lot tighter and bankers who engaged in fraud were jailed not lightly fined and offered positions at RW think tanks. The income gap was nowhere as bad as now and big business had only started the process of mortally wounding the middle class. Blaming everything on Obama is stupid and even worse it lets the real culprits off the hook. These problems did not start in Jan. 2009, they started way back with Reagan who you seem to think is just awesome in spite of his biggest ever government expansion.
     

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