Disabled person in real need

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    I've never heard of him, but he sounds like a wonderful young man with a kind heart to have done so much for this woman.
     
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    That's very nice and commendable.

    But...as of August this year, 8.7 million disabled workers are drawing SS disability. You may question if that many cases are valid if you like, but the premise of this thread is that no government help is really needed as charity will take care of them.

    Ok...please explain to me which charities are going to take care of the every day needs of 8.7 million people. That includes rent, food, transportation, health care. Everything. How much money would it take to support them either until they recover enough to go back to work or for the rest of their lives if they are permanently disabled? Where will that money come from? Who will give it? How? Under what circumstances?

    In 2010, the total amount given to charity in the United States was $290.89 billion. That's from all sources.

    Political Calculations: Charity in America: The Donors

    If every, single, solitary dollar of that charitable giving was redirected to just those 8.7 million disabled workers, it would amount to roughly $33,000 each. That should be enough, but it would require no giving to anything else, by anybody. That includes cancer research, churches (yes, apparently including tithes), little league, college funds...whatever.

    Now...tell me again how they'll get by just fine with no government involvement?
     
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    The services needed by those in need are better delivered locally. It's not the remit of the federal government, nor are is the federal government competent to deliver cost effective, targeted, services. Put the issue on the shoulders of the states, not the idiots in DC.
     
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    Tyler Perry is the guy who does the Madea movies... just look it up on youtube He plays Madea, his father and him as the son .. Very funny stuff.
     
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    The only difference is that you'd shift the burden to state government, instead of the federal government. It's still "government assistance," you know. I guess it's not a case of government having no role to play...it's just WHICH government, right?

    And, a lot of the states are strapped for cash. Where's the money going to come from?
     
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    But, if each state is responsible, then the people of each state can decide for themselves. I have no issue with 'government assistance' as long as it's the choice of those paying for it, not some jackshit wasteful federal government bullshit. These people couldn't organize a 'piss up in a brewery', so why the fuck do people think they are capable of controlling costs in federal programs? History shows us that they can't.
     
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    You seem to be suggesting that Congress doesn't know what we want, but state legislatures do.

    Please explain how that's so.
     
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    Congress doesn't give a shit about what 'we' want... apart from the fact that 'we' are individuals and since 'we' don't agree with each other, how could they possibly know what 'we' want. Despite that, Congress doesn't give a rats ass about you... or me... or anyone else. They are, in general, there to serve their own desires, feather their own nests and not much else.

    States, on the other hand, are more easily influenced by those that elect them. They're more controllable. Quite straightforward.... unless you're a twit. Are you a twit?
     

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