Difference Between Socialism and Progressivism

[Clementine]

Fucking commies...

You don't see the difference between people choosing to do things on their own and government forcing people to do things, often against their will and under threat of punishment or imprisonment?

Of course, in either case, there will always be those who don't contribute shit but still expect to benefit in every way.

We've always had police, fire and ambulance services. The military has always been needed, as well as border security and some of the government agencies are valid. Government has legitimate functions, but they don't know when to quit. We have agencies overlapping and could get rid of many. Now people want free housing, utilities, food, phones, healthcare, school and now college is being added to the list of demands. And too damn many are doing nothing and merely waiting to receive.

Forget about 'Ask not what your country can do for you...........' It's been replaced with I exist and, therefore, I am entitled to every creature comfort that exists. No one thinks they should lift a finger and the left has always been there to help people put the blame elsewhere so they don't feel bad about being leeches.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The alternative would be hiring private companies, which in many cases are more efficient and cost less money.

One could do that, as long as you were willing to guarantee their profits? That's a business like putting out fires, one never knows if the work will be there or not. That would be a Cost Plus contract. No one would write one otherwise.

What a dumbass. There are numerous private fire protection companies, and you pay them a monthly fee.

I think people become left-wingers because they simply have no imagination. They can't imagine anything working except the way it works now

Best fire department in our area....volunteer. Community took donations and bought their fire engine.

No government needed.

Fucking commies...

I must have missed where Communism was voluntary. Oh yeah, because it isn't.

You just proved that it is with your communist fire department.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Government has legitimate functions...

That's correct.

 

[9aces]

One could do that, as long as you were willing to guarantee their profits? That's a business like putting out fires, one never knows if the work will be there or not. That would be a Cost Plus contract. No one would write one otherwise.

What a dumbass. There are numerous private fire protection companies, and you pay them a monthly fee.

I think people become left-wingers because they simply have no imagination. They can't imagine anything working except the way it works now

Best fire department in our area....volunteer. Community took donations and bought their fire engine.

No government needed.

Fucking commies...

I must have missed where Communism was voluntary. Oh yeah, because it isn't.

You just proved that it is with your communist fire department.

The only thing that's been proven is we're all amazed you're able to use a computer. We're astonished anyone that stupid is capable of turning one on.

 

[Moonglow]

Socialists want to abolish capitalism because they believe that it exploits the working class.

Untrue, as we have seen, that social welfare differs from Marxism...

 

[9aces]

What a dumbass. There are numerous private fire protection companies, and you pay them a monthly fee.

I think people become left-wingers because they simply have no imagination. They can't imagine anything working except the way it works now

Best fire department in our area....volunteer. Community took donations and bought their fire engine.

No government needed.

Fucking commies...

I must have missed where Communism was voluntary. Oh yeah, because it isn't.

You just proved that it is with your communist fire department.

PMH.

Jeez, 1st ignore on this site. Some folks are just too stupid to read.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Socialism: Social ownership of production, a lack of a capitalist system.
Not related to progressivism, the movement that supports capitalism with regulations.

 

[9aces]

Socialists want to abolish capitalism because they believe that it exploits the working class.

Untrue, as we have seen, that social welfare differs from Marxism...

Not really. Socialism is the state to which society degrades to before sinking all the way to Marxism. Then when Marxism collapses we're back to Capitalism again.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Socialists want to abolish capitalism because they believe that it exploits the working class.

Untrue, as we have seen, that social welfare differs from Marxism...

Not really. Socialism is the state to which society degrades to before sinking all the way to Marxism. Then when Marxism collapses we're back to Capitalism again.

Learn what Marxism, Communism, Socialism, a Mixed-economy, and Capitalism are. You have not a clue.

 

[Moonglow]

Socialists want to abolish capitalism because they believe that it exploits the working class.

Untrue, as we have seen, that social welfare differs from Marxism...

Not really. Socialism is the state to which society degrades to before sinking all the way to Marxism. Then when Marxism collapses we're back to Capitalism again.

I always wondered why Heaven was a socialist state...??

 

[American_Jihad]

THE STATE OF OUR UNION
What is at stake for Americans in 2016?
February 8, 2016
Thomas Sowell

The best New Year's Resolution I ever made was to stop trying to reason with unreasonable people. That may be especially valuable during an election year.

With 4 of the 9 Supreme Court justices being more than 75 years old, the next president will probably be appointing replacements who can help determine the direction of American law well into the next generation. This is just one of the many very serious things that we can only hope the voters keep in mind, instead of voting on the basis of just one issue or on emotions.

Among the common phrases of the past that we seldom hear today is "None of your business." Apparently everything is other people's business these days, including the media's business and the government's business.

In this scientific age, it is amazing how many people act as if magic words can make realities vanish. For example, they talk as if behavioral differences between groups can be made to disappear by saying the magic word, "stereotypes." This fallacy affects everything from statistical claims of discrimination to admitting refugees with cultures hostile to our own.

After a famous naval victory in the War of 1812, Commodore O.H. Perry reported: "We have met the enemy and they are ours." After the Republican Congressional majority's repeated capitulations to the Democrats' minority, Congressional Republicans could say, "We have met the enemy and we are theirs."

The central non sequitur of the political left is that, because America has never lived up to its ideals, it is to be condemned and repudiated. But what society of human beings has ever lived up to all its ideals? Despite all its achievements, America is condemned by the left because it is not exempt from all the sins and failings found in societies around the world.

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Some people are surprised at how many young people look favorably on socialism. But socialism is a wonderful-sounding idea. Those who have lived through the era of its disasters in the 20th century, or learned about them from history, are likely to see through the appearances to the reality. A young age prevents the former and our dumbed-down education prevents the latter.

The State of our Union

 

[Billy000]

The alternative would be hiring private companies, which in many cases are more efficient and cost less money.

Lol oh right great idea. Who would exactly be paying for these services?

 

[beagle9]

Fucking commies...

You don't see the difference between people choosing to do things on their own and government forcing people to do things, often against their will and under threat of punishment or imprisonment?

Of course, in either case, there will always be those who don't contribute shit but still expect to benefit in every way.

We've always had police, fire and ambulance services. The military has always been needed, as well as border security and some of the government agencies are valid. Government has legitimate functions, but they don't know when to quit. We have agencies overlapping and could get rid of many. Now people want free housing, utilities, food, phones, healthcare, school and now college is being added to the list of demands. And too damn many are doing nothing and merely waiting to receive.

Forget about 'Ask not what your country can do for you...........' It's been replaced with I exist and, therefore, I am entitled to every creature comfort that exists. No one thinks they should lift a finger and the left has always been there to help people put the blame elsewhere so they don't feel bad about being leeches.

. While your up on the soap box, please don't leave out all the greed and selfishness that created the government in which you hate so bad.

 

[francoHFW]

Let the "collage kiddies" get informed...
Difference Between Socialism and Progressivism

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Socialism vs Progressivism

Socialism is an economic system where the government runs and controls the production resources collectively owned by society to achieve its common good. Progressivism ,on the other hand, is a political philosophy that seeks to raise the standard of living of the average member of society in order to achieve a positive social change. While socialism and progressivism both seek the economic and political equality of all members of society, they differ in their views and approaches.

Socialists want to abolish capitalism because they believe that it exploits the working class. They want the working class to play an overpowering role in shifting society from capitalism to socialism either through a popular vote or going on a general strike or even going to the extreme of uprising or revolution. Progressives, on the other hand, believe that capitalism is the most expeditious way to grow the wealth of society under a regulated business environment. They want to attain social change gradually. They do not expect the working class to play a major role in the social change they want. They also object to any form of violence to achieve social change. The progressives believe that the approach of the socialists in achieving social change is too drastic and could cause social unrest. Instead, the progressives convince the poor or less privileged to be jealous of the rich capitalists in order to influence the working class to vote progressives into power and perform the government obligation of improving the life of the community.

In terms of economic advocacy, socialism promotes a planned economy wherein the blueprint for the production and distribution of goods and services is determined ahead of time. Socialists also believe in the equitable distribution of productivity gains. They believe that those who worked more, deserve to be given more. Progressivism goes for a mixed economy where the basic features of capitalism and socialism are present. Supporters of progressivism believe that wealth should be distributed equally among members of society. Where wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few, such wealth must be put under the control of a democratic political establishment. Progressives support economic egalitarianism and as such, treat members of society as co-equals in terms of their right to use the economic resources and wealth and their contribution to such wealth and resources.

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That's communism, cold war dinosaur/RW dupe. Socialism is fair capitalism with a good safety net.

 

[francoHFW]

Milton Friedman - Socialism vs. Capitalism

That's COMMUNISM, stupid. As Friedman says....duh.

 

[regent]

The alternative would be hiring private companies, which in many cases are more efficient and cost less money.

One could do that, as long as you were willing to guarantee their profits? That's a business like putting out fires, one never knows if the work will be there or not. That would be a Cost Plus contract. No one would write one otherwise.

What a dumbass. There are numerous private fire protection companies, and you pay them a monthly fee.

I think people become left-wingers because they simply have no imagination. They can't imagine anything working except the way it works now

Best fire department in our area....volunteer. Community took donations and bought their fire engine.

No government needed.

Fucking commies...

I must have missed where Communism was voluntary. Oh yeah, because it isn't.

Has any nation ever practiced Marxist communism?
Has any nation ever practiced pure socialism?
Has the USA ever practiced pure capitalism?
Has any poster been able to define socialism?
Has any nation, besides the USA ever practiced a mixture of socialism and capitalism?