Did voter fraud alter the outcome of the MN 2008 Senate race?

[Truthmatters]

County attorneys: Minnesota Majority reports on voter fraud ‘frivolous’ | Minnesota Independent


MCAA’s Kingrey said that Minnesota Majority sent county attorneys’ offices information last year alleging widespread fraud in the 2008 election. He said the “the drumbeat continued” when the Republican Party of Minnesota backed up Minnesota Majority’s claims and then counties were served with an order by KSTP-TV to retain absentee ballots from the 2008 election.

“County attorneys take voter fraud very seriously; there is no discretion for county attorneys in this manner,” Kingrey said. Minnesota Majority produced a list of more than 1,000 names of Minnesotans that they suspected of illegal voting.

“The list generated wildly overstated the number of felons that voted,” said Kingrey. “Many actually were legal voters; they were allowed to vote under Minnesota statute.”

The Minnesota County Attorneys Association’s (MCAA) executive director John Kingrey says Minnesota Majority’s reports of massive voter fraud in the 2008 election were “widely overstated” and “frivolous,” adding that the conservative group’s demands of those investigating suspected voter fraud were draining county public safety resources.

what an idiot partisan dave is

 

[Ernie S.]

Republicans are whiny bitches when they lose

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans are whiny bitches when they lose

Al Gore conceded for the good of the country and Bush still was inaugurated on Jan 17

Bitchy Republicans whined and filed frivolous claims for Eight months after Franken won the Senate. They did not care if Minnesota had a senator if it was not going to be a republican

 

[Ernie S.]

County attorneys: Minnesota Majority reports on voter fraud ‘frivolous’ | Minnesota Independent


MCAA’s Kingrey said that Minnesota Majority sent county attorneys’ offices information last year alleging widespread fraud in the 2008 election. He said the “the drumbeat continued” when the Republican Party of Minnesota backed up Minnesota Majority’s claims and then counties were served with an order by KSTP-TV to retain absentee ballots from the 2008 election.

“County attorneys take voter fraud very seriously; there is no discretion for county attorneys in this manner,” Kingrey said. Minnesota Majority produced a list of more than 1,000 names of Minnesotans that they suspected of illegal voting.

“The list generated wildly overstated the number of felons that voted,” said Kingrey. “Many actually were legal voters; they were allowed to vote under Minnesota statute.”

The Minnesota County Attorneys Association’s (MCAA) executive director John Kingrey says Minnesota Majority’s reports of massive voter fraud in the 2008 election were “widely overstated” and “frivolous,” adding that the conservative group’s demands of those investigating suspected voter fraud were draining county public safety resources.

what an idiot partisan dave is

Your article is dated Monday, November 29, 2010, BEFORE convictions and indictments and the investigations into 2,000 more possible cases.

what an idiot partisan you are!

 

[Ernie S.]

Republicans are whiny bitches when they lose

Al Gore conceded for the good of the country and Bush still was inaugurated on Jan 17

Bitchy Republicans whined and filed frivolous claims for Eight months after Franken won the Senate. They did not care if Minnesota had a senator if it was not going to be a republican

The claims don't appear so frivolous now, do they?

 

[rightwinger]

Some Minnesotans had their voices counted when they had no legal right to do so.

But, like I said, the Democrat won. That's all that matters to you.

Let's see if we can find some cheese to go along with that whine

Results were certified...best man won

Time to get on with your life Nancy

Thanks for proving once again that you don't give a shit about democracy.

Democracy worked in Minnesota except for republicans abusing the court system to hold up Senator Franken from being seated until July

 

[MeBelle]

what an idiot partisan dave is

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[OohPooPahDoo]

Some research I did:




2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate Election: Results after election contest[1][2][64][65]
Party Candidate Votes
DFL Al Franken 1,212,629
Republican Norm Coleman 1,212,317


The difference?

312 votes.

The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.

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Minnesota's recent charges and convictions stem from research initiated by Minnesota Majority. The research identified upwards of 2,800 ineligible felons believed to have unlawfully voted in Minnesota's 2008 general election.

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At the time of this report, nearly 200 additional cases are still pending trial.​

So: 113 convictions. 200 more pending cases. 2,800 ineligibles possibly voted.

"Possibly" ?

Its "possible" that everyone who voted in the election was ineligible, and they were all in fact an alien species from another planet that replaced the eligible voters with identical looking aliens.

Its "possible" the entire universe came into being 5 minutes ago and we were all implanted with memories that make us think we've been around a lot longer.

I love how we can assume 2800 people voted illegally because its "possible" - yet we are also to assume all 313 convicted and pending illegal votes went to the Democratic candidate. Seems like a lot of assumptions you've made.

Maybe we should get to your root assumption - any time a Democrat wins elected office, we can assume something illegal was done.

 

[Truthmatters]

County attorneys: Minnesota Majority reports on voter fraud ‘frivolous’ | Minnesota Independent

113 convictions out of 1000 claimed.


I guess the report was correct about most of them being frivolous

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Some research I did:




2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate Election: Results after election contest[1][2][64][65]
Party Candidate Votes
DFL Al Franken 1,212,629
Republican Norm Coleman 1,212,317


The difference?

312 votes.

The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.

--

Minnesota's recent charges and convictions stem from research initiated by Minnesota Majority. The research identified upwards of 2,800 ineligible felons believed to have unlawfully voted in Minnesota's 2008 general election.

--

At the time of this report, nearly 200 additional cases are still pending trial.​

So: 113 convictions. 200 more pending cases. 2,800 ineligibles possibly voted.

Let us know when it changes the result of an election.

From your own link:


If 113 voters illegally voting in one election is the biggest election fraud in 75 years - I'd say you've only provided the exception that proves the rule - illegally casted ballots isn't a big national problem.

...when Democrats win.

It doesn't bother you that a third of the election margin has been found to be illegal votes, with the other two-thirds of the votes pending?

It should.

Given the mathematical improbability that at least 312 votes out of 313 all went for the Democratic candidate - no, it doesn't.

 

[daveman]

County attorneys: Minnesota Majority reports on voter fraud ‘frivolous’ | Minnesota Independent


MCAA’s Kingrey said that Minnesota Majority sent county attorneys’ offices information last year alleging widespread fraud in the 2008 election. He said the “the drumbeat continued” when the Republican Party of Minnesota backed up Minnesota Majority’s claims and then counties were served with an order by KSTP-TV to retain absentee ballots from the 2008 election.

“County attorneys take voter fraud very seriously; there is no discretion for county attorneys in this manner,” Kingrey said. Minnesota Majority produced a list of more than 1,000 names of Minnesotans that they suspected of illegal voting.

“The list generated wildly overstated the number of felons that voted,” said Kingrey. “Many actually were legal voters; they were allowed to vote under Minnesota statute.”

The Minnesota County Attorneys Association’s (MCAA) executive director John Kingrey says Minnesota Majority’s reports of massive voter fraud in the 2008 election were “widely overstated” and “frivolous,” adding that the conservative group’s demands of those investigating suspected voter fraud were draining county public safety resources.

what an idiot partisan dave is

113 convictions for voter fraud. But it's okay, because the Democrat won.

 

[daveman]

Let's see if we can find some cheese to go along with that whine

Results were certified...best man won

Time to get on with your life Nancy

Thanks for proving once again that you don't give a shit about democracy.

Democracy worked in Minnesota except for republicans abusing the court system to hold up Senator Franken from being seated until July

No, Democrat "democracy" worked. Not the real kind.

But you don't give a shit. The Democrat won.

 

[daveman]

Some research I did:




2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate Election: Results after election contest[1][2][64][65]
Party Candidate Votes
DFL Al Franken 1,212,629
Republican Norm Coleman 1,212,317


The difference?

312 votes.

The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.

--

Minnesota's recent charges and convictions stem from research initiated by Minnesota Majority. The research identified upwards of 2,800 ineligible felons believed to have unlawfully voted in Minnesota's 2008 general election.

--

At the time of this report, nearly 200 additional cases are still pending trial.​

So: 113 convictions. 200 more pending cases. 2,800 ineligibles possibly voted.

"Possibly" ?

Its "possible" that everyone who voted in the election was ineligible, and they were all in fact an alien species from another planet that replaced the eligible voters with identical looking aliens.

Its "possible" the entire universe came into being 5 minutes ago and we were all implanted with memories that make us think we've been around a lot longer.

I love how we can assume 2800 people voted illegally because its "possible" - yet we are also to assume all 313 convicted and pending illegal votes went to the Democratic candidate. Seems like a lot of assumptions you've made.

I've made no assumptions. 113 people were disenfranchised by illegal voters. I don't care for whom the votes were cast. I value democracy.

But the Democrat won, so you don't give a shit.

Maybe we should get to your root assumption - any time a Democrat wins elected office, we can assume something illegal was done.

Maybe you should quit being a moron.

What part of "113 convictions for voter fraud" is failing to shoehorn its way into your thick skull?

Oh, wait -- the Democrat won. That's all that matters to you.

 

[daveman]

Let us know when it changes the result of an election.

From your own link:


If 113 voters illegally voting in one election is the biggest election fraud in 75 years - I'd say you've only provided the exception that proves the rule - illegally casted ballots isn't a big national problem.

...when Democrats win.

It doesn't bother you that a third of the election margin has been found to be illegal votes, with the other two-thirds of the votes pending?

It should.

Given the mathematical improbability that at least 312 votes out of 313 all went for the Democratic candidate - no, it doesn't.

The Democrat won. That's all that matters to you.

 

[rightwinger]

...when Democrats win.

It doesn't bother you that a third of the election margin has been found to be illegal votes, with the other two-thirds of the votes pending?

It should.

Given the mathematical improbability that at least 312 votes out of 313 all went for the Democratic candidate - no, it doesn't.

The Democrat won. That's all that matters to you.

You know that every one of those felons voted Republican......they always do

 

[daveman]

Given the mathematical improbability that at least 312 votes out of 313 all went for the Democratic candidate - no, it doesn't.

The Democrat won. That's all that matters to you.

You know that every one of those felons voted Republican......they always do

More horseshit.

Yes, felons just LOVE Republicans, who support stiff sentencing and the death penalty. They HATE Democrats, who are soft on crime and oppose the death penalty.

Retard.

You're edging perilously close to TruthMatters' level of stupidity, dood. You might want to get your head CAT scanned.

 

[rightwinger]

The Democrat won. That's all that matters to you.

You know that every one of those felons voted Republican......they always do

More horseshit.

Yes, felons just LOVE Republicans, who support stiff sentencing and the death penalty. They HATE Democrats, who are soft on crime and oppose the death penalty.

Retard.

You're edging perilously close to TruthMatters' level of stupidity, dood. You might want to get your head CAT scanned.

Every one of those 113 convictions voted Republican which only gives Senator Franken a larger margin of victory

 

[daveman]

You know that every one of those felons voted Republican......they always do

More horseshit.

Yes, felons just LOVE Republicans, who support stiff sentencing and the death penalty. They HATE Democrats, who are soft on crime and oppose the death penalty.

Retard.

You're edging perilously close to TruthMatters' level of stupidity, dood. You might want to get your head CAT scanned.

Every one of those 113 convictions voted Republican which only gives Senator Franken a larger margin of victory

And your source for that information is...?

Oh, wait...there's no URL to your ass.

 

[rightwinger]

More horseshit.

Yes, felons just LOVE Republicans, who support stiff sentencing and the death penalty. They HATE Democrats, who are soft on crime and oppose the death penalty.

Retard.

You're edging perilously close to TruthMatters' level of stupidity, dood. You might want to get your head CAT scanned.

Every one of those 113 convictions voted Republican which only gives Senator Franken a larger margin of victory

And your source for that information is...?

Oh, wait...there's no URL to your ass.

Well, if every one didn't vote Republican, how many of the 113 do you claim voted Republican? Give me a percentage

What we do know is that "upwards" of 113 voted Republican.........so we can only assume that they all did

 

[blastoff]

Voter fraud, cheating, etc. is exclusively Republican. I know because truthmatters said so. Again and again and again, ad nauseam.