Did voter fraud alter the outcome of the MN 2008 Senate race?

[daveman]

Some research I did:




2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate Election: Results after election contest[1][2][64][65]
Party Candidate Votes
DFL Al Franken 1,212,629
Republican Norm Coleman 1,212,317


The difference?

312 votes.

The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.

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Minnesota's recent charges and convictions stem from research initiated by Minnesota Majority. The research identified upwards of 2,800 ineligible felons believed to have unlawfully voted in Minnesota's 2008 general election.

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At the time of this report, nearly 200 additional cases are still pending trial.​

So: 113 convictions. 200 more pending cases. 2,800 ineligibles possibly voted.

 

[daveman]

Was this a legit election?

There could be more fraudulent votes cast than the difference between the two candidate in the final tally.

 

[paulitician]

Yes. Al Franken should not be a U.S. Senator. That Election was a blatant sham.

 

[candycorn]

Was this a legit election?

There could be more fraudulent votes cast than the difference between the two candidate in the final tally.

We will never know. The Senate is a better place with Al Franken in it to be sure. Dog gone it, people like him.

Anyway...

The down-ticket races are the ones most easily effected by voter fraud. It is true that when millions of votes separate the winner and second place, fraud isn't a determining factor. But down-ticket, it becomes a factor. Further down ticket to the municipal level, it can be the determining factor.

Why someone would purposely be on the side of a hint of impropriety in the electoral process when there is a simple fix available to all is brainless.

 

[Avatar4321]

Yes. We all know that. We saw it happen.

And we were powerless to stop it.

 

[Lakhota]

Conservative media hype "not accurate" report to suggest Franken's election was "an illegal victory" | Media Matters for America

 

[Avatar4321]

Conservative media hype "not accurate" report to suggest Franken's election was "an illegal victory" | Media Matters for America

So says one of the organizations pushing the cheating.

 

[daveman]

Was this a legit election?

There could be more fraudulent votes cast than the difference between the two candidate in the final tally.

We will never know. The Senate is a better place with Al Franken in it to be sure. Dog gone it, people like him.

Anyway...

The down-ticket races are the ones most easily effected by voter fraud. It is true that when millions of votes separate the winner and second place, fraud isn't a determining factor. But down-ticket, it becomes a factor. Further down ticket to the municipal level, it can be the determining factor.

Why someone would purposely be on the side of a hint of impropriety in the electoral process when there is a simple fix available to all is brainless.

People are purposely on the side of a hint of impropriety in the electoral process because it benefits them and/or their party.

These people are anti-democracy.

 

[daveman]

Conservative media hype "not accurate" report to suggest Franken's election was "an illegal victory" | Media Matters for America

MediaMatters' little temper tantrum does nothing to refute the numbers in the OP.

But your party benefited, so it's okay with you.

You're anti-democracy.

 

[Lakhota]

Conservative media hype "not accurate" report to suggest Franken's election was "an illegal victory" | Media Matters for America

So says one of the organizations pushing the cheating.

Yeah, but the article has source links. In Minnesota, people with felony convictions can vote once they have completed their parole or probation.

State Felon Voting Laws - Felon Voting - ProCon.org

 

[daveman]

Conservative media hype "not accurate" report to suggest Franken's election was "an illegal victory" | Media Matters for America

So says one of the organizations pushing the cheating.

Yeah, but the article has source links. In Minnesota, people with felony convictions can vote once they have completed their parole or probation.

State Felon Voting Laws - Felon Voting - ProCon.org

I wonder if the MN prosecutors know that? 113 people have been convicted.

Or perhaps MediaMatters isn't telling you the whole story. Yes, that seems far more likely. Or are you claiming that all those felon voters had completed parole or probation...?

 

[kiwiman127]

Let's see, there was a recount, the GOP brought in their very top attorneys argue Norm Coleman/GOP's case and once the Minnesota court made it's final decision, the GOP's top attorneys decided not to appeal.

 

[uscitizen]

Some research I did:




2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate Election: Results after election contest[1][2][64][65]
Party Candidate Votes
DFL Al Franken 1,212,629
Republican Norm Coleman 1,212,317


The difference?

312 votes.

The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.

--

Minnesota's recent charges and convictions stem from research initiated by Minnesota Majority. The research identified upwards of 2,800 ineligible felons believed to have unlawfully voted in Minnesota's 2008 general election.

--

At the time of this report, nearly 200 additional cases are still pending trial.​

So: 113 convictions. 200 more pending cases. 2,800 ineligibles possibly voted.

I did not realize That TM had a partner in the voting fraud game?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Was this a legit election?

Why ask? It’s your thread, you provide the answer.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans are whiny bitches when they lose

 

[kiwiman127]

Yes. We all know that. We saw it happen.

And we were powerless to stop it.

I live in Minnesota, during the recount and court proceedings it was on TV every night and in the papers every day. In other words, Minnesotans got a much closer look than I would guess anyone on this board expressing their all-knowing opinion. Norm stated he was satisfied, the people of Minnesota were satisfied by substantial margin (polls showed larger percentage than voted for Franken, were satisfied).
Stop with the dramatics,,Philadelphia? Yeah you really had a great seat for watching the event close-up.

 

[daveman]

Let's see, there was a recount, the GOP brought in their very top attorneys argue Norm Coleman/GOP's case and once the Minnesota court made it's final decision, the GOP's top attorneys decided not to appeal.

And as the convictions have shown, not all votes were cast legally.

 

[daveman]

Some research I did:




2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate Election: Results after election contest[1][2][64][65]
Party Candidate Votes
DFL Al Franken 1,212,629
Republican Norm Coleman 1,212,317


The difference?

312 votes.

The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.

--

Minnesota's recent charges and convictions stem from research initiated by Minnesota Majority. The research identified upwards of 2,800 ineligible felons believed to have unlawfully voted in Minnesota's 2008 general election.

--

At the time of this report, nearly 200 additional cases are still pending trial.​

So: 113 convictions. 200 more pending cases. 2,800 ineligibles possibly voted.

I did not realize That TM had a partner in the voting fraud game?

The difference is I base my claims on solid fact, not emotionalism.

You might try it someday.

 

[daveman]

Was this a legit election?

Why ask? It’s your thread, you provide the answer.

I know my opinion. What's yours?

 

[daveman]

Republicans are whiny bitches when they lose

You really do hate democracy.