Did the SEIU buy Obama's election?

[Yurt]

Andy Stern, Service Employees International Union president

"We spent a fortune to elect Barack Obama — $60.7 million to be exact — and we’re proud of it."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009...ment-and-card/

 

[California Girl]

In my opinion, yes. And union members should be demanding their leadership pay every fucking penny back.

 

[Immanuel]

They had help.

Immie

 

[WillowTree]

Yes.

 

[Cuyo]

Yessss... THAT... Or, he won in a landslide after 8 years of Republican fuckupery.

 

[Yurt]

i thought dems were against this kind of thing....they are furious over Citizens and constantly claim corporations buy elections....but apparently its ok for a union to spend $60 million dollars to elect a president...

 

[JBeukema]

Yessss... THAT... Or, he won in a landslide after 8 years of Republican fuckupery.

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[Cuyo]

Yessss... THAT... Or, he won in a landslide after 8 years of Republican fuckupery.

False dilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe it was just that, but it's largely irrelevant to my statement.

 

[WillowTree]

i thought dems were against this kind of thing....they are furious over Citizens and constantly claim corporations buy elections....but apparently its ok for a union to spend $60 million dollars to elect a president...

doh dee doh doh doh.

 

[Yurt]

i thought dems were against this kind of thing....they are furious over Citizens and constantly claim corporations buy elections....but apparently its ok for a union to spend $60 million dollars to elect a president...

doh dee doh doh doh.

i won't hold my breath for dems to condemn this or express concern about it

 

[Truthmatters]

Union money is a drop in the bucket compared to corprate money

 

[Yurt]

Union money is a drop in the bucket compared to corprate money

so you are ok with unions spending 60 million dollars to elect a president?

yes or no

and provide proof corporations have spent more than 60 million to elect a president.

 

[shintao]

In my opinion, yes. And union members should be demanding their leadership pay every fucking penny back.

Now, now, Obama is supporting the Wisconsin teacher's Union, so he will earn his money.

 

[Sheldon]

i thought dems were against this kind of thing....they are furious over Citizens and constantly claim corporations buy elections....but apparently its ok for a union to spend $60 million dollars to elect a president...

I thought that angst was kind of strange too. Corporations and unions have always tried to influence elections. My understanding is that Citizens made it so they don't have to go through PACs anymore, and the corps' or union's general funds can now take a bee-line to the politicians' campaigns. I think.

Here's an interesting list of top donors from 89-10. SEIU is at #11.

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

 

[Immanuel]

Yessss... THAT... Or, he won in a landslide after 8 years of Republican fuckupery.

Those are not mutually exclusive.

Immie

 

[shintao]

Union money is a drop in the bucket compared to corprate money

so you are ok with unions spending 60 million dollars to elect a president?

yes or no

and provide proof corporations have spent more than 60 million to elect a president.

Hell yes! You too can spend that much and I won't quibble with you.

Proof? Politico reports that the Kochs have set a target goal for themselves of raising $88 million to “steer” towards Republican candidates and conservative causes in 2012.

 

[Yurt]

Union money is a drop in the bucket compared to corprate money

so you are ok with unions spending 60 million dollars to elect a president?

yes or no

and provide proof corporations have spent more than 60 million to elect a president.

Hell yes! You too can spend that much and I won't quibble with you.

Proof? Politico reports that the Kochs have set a target goal for themselves of raising $88 million to “steer” towards Republican candidates and conservative causes in 2012.

that is not proof corporations have spent more than 60 million dollars to elect a president....

are you joking?

 

[Dot Com]

ANYONE and they would've lost after 8 yrs of this:

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If you look closely, you can see the shoe

 

[Yurt]

i thought dems were against this kind of thing....they are furious over Citizens and constantly claim corporations buy elections....but apparently its ok for a union to spend $60 million dollars to elect a president...

I thought that angst was kind of strange too. Corporations and unions have always tried to influence elections. My understanding is that Citizens made it so they don't have to go through PACs anymore, and the corps' or union's general funds can now take a bee-line to the politicians' campaigns. I think.

Here's an interesting list of top donors from 89-10. SEIU is at #11.

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

iirc....Citizens said corps and unions cannot give to an individual campaign, rather, they can use their money to buy ads and so forth, but cannot donate to a candidates campaign.

 

[Yurt]

i thought dems were against this kind of thing....they are furious over Citizens and constantly claim corporations buy elections....but apparently its ok for a union to spend $60 million dollars to elect a president...

I thought that angst was kind of strange too. Corporations and unions have always tried to influence elections. My understanding is that Citizens made it so they don't have to go through PACs anymore, and the corps' or union's general funds can now take a bee-line to the politicians' campaigns. I think.

Here's an interesting list of top donors from 89-10. SEIU is at #11.

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

interesting link....it appears that corps actually give more money to democrats than republicans....this goes against what TM and other dems claim