Did The FBI Allow The Florida Shooting?

[Doc1]

 

[S.J.]

I think we forget the sheer number of leads our agencies have to deal with!

And are sufficiently funded and staffed to deal with...yet this one was ignored. I don't want to believe this anymore than you do but I won't turn away from the possibility the FBI leadership is so leftist ideated it couldn't happen....remember, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page haven't been fired.

This is entirely plausible and probable.

 

[Tom Horn]

I do not belive it! Here is why! I understnad how such a thing happens. It does not happen over night and it takes power, time and influence to make such a thing happen. What percentage of the time over the past 40 years have the Dems had that kind of power and influence. Answer very little! They need to learn how to win some elections if that want to even aspire to such a thing!

A lot can happen in 8 years.....16 if you consider how weak Bush was on the FBI....he had a crackerjack CIA after he got rid of Tenet but named MUELLER his FBI Director. And it's Mueller who's gone rogue trying to protect Comey and the Bureau. Maybe this last shooting was a perfect storm of screw ups and maybe it wasn't. What we've already seen out of Wray is that whoever you are going into that building, you're not walking out the same person.

 

[whitehall]

I doubt if you could make a case that the FBI "allowed" the Fla shooting to happen anymore than they allowed the Fla nightclub shooter to mow down people in a crowded club or allowed the Boston Marathon bombers to set off a bomb. It was more like negligence and incompetence. The FBI did, however, allow Major Hasan to kill about a dozen U.S. Soldiers by refusing to investigate his ties to radical Islam on orders from Barry Hussein. Here's an interesting quote from JFK during the time he was considering LBJ to be his running mate: "The three most overrated things in the world are the state of Texas, the FBI and hunting trophies". I'd argue about Texas and hunting trophies though.

 

[S.J.]

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He just happens to be in the right place at the right time to "speak out".

 

[Doc1]

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He just happens to be in the right place at the right time to "speak out".

People have no idea how corrupt our Government is

"Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[3]"

Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia

 

[bendog]

This isn't a "conspiracy theory"....there's a real chance the Bureau did exactly that. There's ample evidence they're still infested with Obama leftists who were politically weaponized and going out with the proverbial BANG....BANG BANG BANG. How else could they have "missed" two specific reports on this Cruz nut? They didn't miss anything...they ignored both warnings instead of passing them on to their Miami office. Of course they couldn't know that Cruz would do what he did. But they might have surmised it....or worse, are regularly ignoring similar reports on other bad apples. Why? To remind us who they are and are not to be messed with....that's why.

Can the mods move this thread to the conspiracy board?

 

[evenflow1969]

I do not belive it! Here is why! I understnad how such a thing happens. It does not happen over night and it takes power, time and influence to make such a thing happen. What percentage of the time over the past 40 years have the Dems had that kind of power and influence. Answer very little! They need to learn how to win some elections if that want to even aspire to such a thing!

A lot can happen in 8 years.....16 if you consider how weak Bush was on the FBI....he had a crackerjack CIA after he got rid of Tenet but named MUELLER his FBI Director. And it's Mueller who's gone rogue trying to protect Comey and the Bureau. Maybe this last shooting was a perfect storm of screw ups and maybe it wasn't. What we've already seen out of Wray is that whoever you are going into that building, you're not walking out the same person.

That is the case in any law enforcemnt building. We talk about how law enforcement put thier lives on the line, I am much more concerned with their mental health. Not many lose their lives compared with other occupations. They are most surely going to loose a bit of their minds. They spend most of their waking hours watching how the worst of mankind fill thier day. All day long they see people at their worst, doing likely what could have been the worst thing they ever did. How long would it take to feel like that is all any one does all day, it is all you see! How long till you would start to feel pretty poorly about your fellow man and start to wonder why you follow the rules? I am prett y sure you change pretty quickly!

 

[NYcarbineer]

This isn't a "conspiracy theory"....there's a real chance the Bureau did exactly that. There's ample evidence they're still infested with Obama leftists who were politically weaponized and going out with the proverbial BANG....BANG BANG BANG. How else could they have "missed" two specific reports on this Cruz nut? They didn't miss anything...they ignored both warnings instead of passing them on to their Miami office. Of course they couldn't know that Cruz would do what he did. But they might have surmised it....or worse, are regularly ignoring similar reports on other bad apples. Why? To remind us who they are and are not to be messed with....that's why.

The Florida authorities had more info than the feds ever did.

 

[Marion Morrison]

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He just happens to be in the right place at the right time to "speak out".

That surely does reek of shenanigans.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Another RW'er coming out for gun confiscation on 'suspicion' lolol

 

[Tom Horn]

Can the mods move this thread to the conspiracy board?

STFU

 

[Manonthestreet]

FBI Trying to Dodge Turning Over Documents in Texas Jihad Shooting Attack Lawsuit - Geller Report
“In arguing that [the FBI] has the prerogative to weigh ‘harm to innocent victims resulting from a covert operation’ against the need for ‘maintaining secrecy,’ Defendant is effectively claiming that the FBI had discretion to allow potentially hundreds of American citizens to be attacked in a dubious attempt to maintain [the FBI agent’s] cover,” Roberts wrote in the filing.

“Put simply, Defendant’s motion to dismiss would provide any law enforcement officer immunity to aid or assist a terrorist massacre on American soil, in the name of ‘maintaining secrecy.’ This is simply not the law,” Roberts noted, adding later, “the judgment exercised by the FBI was not of the kind that Congress intended to shield from civil claims.”

 

[Marion Morrison]

This isn't a "conspiracy theory"....there's a real chance the Bureau did exactly that. There's ample evidence they're still infested with Obama leftists who were politically weaponized and going out with the proverbial BANG....BANG BANG BANG. How else could they have "missed" two specific reports on this Cruz nut? They didn't miss anything...they ignored both warnings instead of passing them on to their Miami office. Of course they couldn't know that Cruz would do what he did. But they might have surmised it....or worse, are regularly ignoring similar reports on other bad apples. Why? To remind us who they are and are not to be messed with....that's why.

The Florida authorities had more info than the feds ever did.

Well, you know, most state workers are not white. I'd love to see the statistics on what percent of FL state workers are black.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This isn't a "conspiracy theory"....there's a real chance the Bureau did exactly that. There's ample evidence they're still infested with Obama leftists who were politically weaponized and going out with the proverbial BANG....BANG BANG BANG. How else could they have "missed" two specific reports on this Cruz nut? They didn't miss anything...they ignored both warnings instead of passing them on to their Miami office. Of course they couldn't know that Cruz would do what he did. But they might have surmised it....or worse, are regularly ignoring similar reports on other bad apples. Why? To remind us who they are and are not to be messed with....that's why.

Can the mods move this thread to the conspiracy board?

It's Rubber Room material, with all due respect to the normal garden variety stupid in the RR.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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So the 17 aren't dead anymore?

 

[NYcarbineer]

This isn't a "conspiracy theory"....there's a real chance the Bureau did exactly that. There's ample evidence they're still infested with Obama leftists who were politically weaponized and going out with the proverbial BANG....BANG BANG BANG. How else could they have "missed" two specific reports on this Cruz nut? They didn't miss anything...they ignored both warnings instead of passing them on to their Miami office. Of course they couldn't know that Cruz would do what he did. But they might have surmised it....or worse, are regularly ignoring similar reports on other bad apples. Why? To remind us who they are and are not to be messed with....that's why.

The Florida authorities had more info than the feds ever did.

Well, you know, most state workers are not white. I'd love to see the statistics on what percent of FL state workers are black.

lol, so now black Americans want racists to shoot schoolkids? WTF?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm beginning to believe that the Russian trolls have an operation going on USMB.

 

[Marion Morrison]

What grounds do you think they might have had to take his gun, or to arrest him?

Mental incompetence, dumbass. Local LEO or DCF should have Baker-Acted him, too. That incident was a complete failure of the system from the ground up.

Mental incompetence is not grounds for taking anyone's guns. Trump and the NRA made sure of that.

Apparently you never read what is actually covered under that, and are just running with the leftist meme.

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Under the GCA,
there are nine classes of persons prohibited from shipping, transporting,
receiving, or possessing firearms or ammun
ition"


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persons adjudicated as “mental defective” or committed to mental institutions"

No guns if you're mentally defective or committed, baby.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44752.pdf

Get someone to read and explain the SUMMARY part of your link to you. The bullet points about half way down that section were the rules in existence at the time.

From your link, dumb ass.
On February 2, 2017, the House of Representatives passed a Congressional Review Act disapproval resolution (H.J.Res. 40) to overturn a final rule promulgated by the Social Security Administration (SSA) regarding implementation of firearms restrictions for certain persons.

That did not include those mentally defective or committed to an institution, dumbass. Do you ever tire of flailing and stand up and admit when you're wrong?

defective ≠ incompetent

 

[bendog]

I'm beginning to believe that the Russian trolls have an operation going on USMB.

Oh, THAT actually might not be a conspiracy theory. LOL