Did Obama Policies Cause This Latest Flare-up In The Middle East?

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    The media is giving Obama credit for a Arab-Israeli truce this weekend, but should they? After all, who is partly responsible for the Arab Spring in the first place. Who helped Libya gain it's independence from yet another dictator? Who helped Egypt free itself from the yoke of slavery from one leader only to be replaced by yet another, only this one is a top dog in the Muslim Brotherhood?

    How can Obama take credit for some flimsy cease-fire when he helped cause the aggression in the first place. Who has been helping arm Hamas which stated that their goal isn't a Palestinian state anymore but the complete takeover of all of Israel, as if that wasn't their plans all along. The PLO just wants a return to 1967 borders, and the turnover of Jerusalem to the Palestinians. That's the moderate view.

    Rest assured, Obama will repeat this as an example of a foreign policy victory, but wasn't it caused by his policies in the first place?

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    After Israel, Hamas reach Gaza cease-fire, both sides claim victory - The Washington Post
     
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    Of course Barack Obama caused the Arab Spring! The hopes, dreams and aspirations of the People of Tunisia and Libya and Egypt and Yemen and Syria mean absolutely nothing! They're all just clay in the hands of our Master Globalist Potter....right?

    Ya know, it may come as a shock to some of you Obamaphobes and right-wing True Believers, but there really are people out there who take the principles of self-government found in our Declaration of Independence to heart, who dare to dream of self-rule, of freedom, of liberty rather than a lifetime under the heavy hand of a tyrant. And some of them even have the courage to act in the face of repression, to take the violent, bloody steps sometimes necessary to live as free men and women.

    Yet, you would deny them those unalienable rights which come from our Creator in the name of expediency and party politics. You'd turn your back on the Will of those People instead of helping them achieve their dreams, as the French did for us during our revolution. You'd say to them, "You don't deserve to have what we have; you deserve to continue living under a brutal dictator." George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin must be rolling over in their graves to see how mean-spirited and evil-minded YOUR America has become. YOUR America would subvert the guiding principles of our nation for crass, selfish reasons. Thank God YOUR type of American isn't in charge right now.

    Worse, while you would short-circuit and actively oppose someone else exercising their God-given right to self-government, you claim it for yourself in a fit of pique over loosing the election! Self-rule is bad for the Egyptians, but good enough for you because you're sore losers who now want to secede?

    Does the hypocrisy of the right know no bounds?
     
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    when will america learn that no matter what side ya pick in the middle east it will end up being the wrong side
     
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    obama's policies didn't cause the flare up in the middle east. The middle east will always be a basket case. It's like Hati. The dominant religion causes the people to think and act in destructive ways. In the middle east, it's islam. In Haiti its a mixture of Catholocism and voodoo. obama just chose to be on the wrong side of every flare up in the middle east.
     
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    lol, the Obama-haters are now going to attack the President for allegedly helping Morsi,

    because Morsi is starting to act like Mubarak,

    the guy the Obama-haters wanted to keep in power.

    You guys never miss a chance to look ridiculous.
     
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    Democracy was the wrong side?
    Is it not true that all presidents since WWII have pushed democracy worldwide?

    Promoting Democracy: The Whys and Hows for the United States and the International Community

    http://www.cfr.org/democracy-promot...-united-states-international-community/p24090
     
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    Yeah...but see? That's because Mubarak wasn't a Muslim and Morsi is.

    Oh...wait. Mubarak WAS a Sunni Muslim, but he wasn't what you might call a "fundamentalist" about it and Morsi is.

    So..what we have here is fundamentalist Evangelical Republican's supporting the back-slidden, semi-religious Muslim over a fellow true believer.

    Hmmmm. You're right. They DON'T ever miss a chance to look ridiculous, do they?:D
     
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    I suspect that if the Mubarak side had held onto power, the Obama-haters would have found a way to blame the President for not giving enough help to the forces of democratic reform.
     
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    Obamination caused the chaos between Hamas and Israel because he kicked Mubarack out of office.

    Mubarak used to regulate the arms flowing from Egypt to Hamas, now it's an open highway of more and bigger weapons ending up with Hamas.

    Liberals are idiots that cause wars, then blame the US military, Israel, etc for the war.
     

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