Did Obama just override Congress with an EO?

[Yurt]

President Barack Obama's proposals for tackling gun violence are drawing praise from scientists, who particularly support Obama's lifting of bans on federal gun research.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have been barred from supporting research into gun violence since the 1990s, when Congress inserted language into budgetary legislation forbidding the agency from using money to "advocate or promote gun control." Because research into the causes of gun crime could potentially be used to do just that, the agency froze its gun violence research program. The National Institutes of Health has operated under similar restrictions since 2011.

Obama announced today (Jan. 16) that he would sign a presidential memorandum informing the CDC that the language in the budgetary bill does not legally prevent gun research. He also said he will push for an additional $10 million in CDC funding in 2014 earmarked for research on the causes of gun violence, including potential links with video games and media. The move won acclaim from researchers.

Obama Gun Proposals Praised by Scientists - Yahoo! News

 

[Vast LWC]

Congress makes a stupid-assed law.

Obama tells his people to ignore it.

I guess Congress could try to force the issue, and let everyone know what a bunch of assholes they really are...

That'd be fun to watch.

 

[ogibillm]

research on its own does not promote or advocate anything. so long as the cdc does not take a policy stance i can't see how this would be a problem.

 

[Vast LWC]

I'd really like to see how Congress would go about trying to do something about that.

How exactly would they explain to the American people that they were trying to stop research, in order to hide the results, to promote an agenda?

 

[ogibillm]

I'd really like to see how Congress would go about trying to do something about that.

How exactly would they explain to the American people that they were trying to stop research, in order to hide the results, to promote an agenda?

exactly. so long as the cdc doesn't say that the president or congress 'should' do anything they're fine.

if they simply report the results of their research i can't see how there would be an issue.

also, why would congress want to legislate such a thing?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Results of CDC research:

Racist whites dont pay the entitled enough entitlements, so the entitled have to commit gun crimes making the racist whites arm themselves.

It is vicious circle of victimization perpetrated by the right.

 

[Yurt]

Congress makes a stupid-assed law.

Obama tells his people to ignore it.

I guess Congress could try to force the issue, and let everyone know what a bunch of assholes they really are...

That'd be fun to watch.

so you support obama undermining the legislative branch when it suits your agenda....no surprise

 

[Vast LWC]

so you support obama undermining the legislative branch when it suits your agenda....no surprise

I support stupid-assed laws not being enforced.

Who in their right mind would support Congress in a law like this?

PLEASE make a big deal out of this. It will show everyone exactly how much Congress sells out to lobbyists every day.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Did Obama just override Congress with an EO?

No.

EOs can’t ‘override’ laws passed by Congress.

EOs are how the Executive Branch enforces laws passed by Congress. See: US Cont. Article II, Section 3.

“…the language in the budgetary bill…”

The law already exists, the president is explaining how he plans on enforcing it.

Otherwise the issue is moot, given EOs are subject to judicial review.

 

[Yurt]

President Barack Obama's proposals for tackling gun violence are drawing praise from scientists, who particularly support Obama's lifting of bans on federal gun research.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have been barred from supporting research into gun violence since the 1990s, when Congress inserted language into budgetary legislation forbidding the agency from using money to "advocate or promote gun control." Because research into the causes of gun crime could potentially be used to do just that, the agency froze its gun violence research program. The National Institutes of Health has operated under similar restrictions since 2011.

Obama announced today (Jan. 16) that he would sign a presidential memorandum informing the CDC that the language in the budgetary bill does not legally prevent gun research. He also said he will push for an additional $10 million in CDC funding in 2014 earmarked for research on the causes of gun violence, including potential links with video games and media. The move won acclaim from researchers.

Obama Gun Proposals Praised by Scientists - Yahoo! News

Did Obama just override Congress with an EO?

No.

EOs can’t ‘override’ laws passed by Congress.

EOs are how the Executive Branch enforces laws passed by Congress. See: US Cont. Article II, Section 3.

“…the language in the budgetary bill…”

The law already exists, the president is explaining how he plans on enforcing it.

Otherwise the issue is moot, given EOs are subject to judicial review.

not sure you're correct, given the above highlights

 

[Avatar4321]

Interesting. There is something they call a leader/ruler who dictates commands to the people without a legislative body. What was it again?

 

[ogibillm]

Interesting. There is something they call a leader/ruler who dictates commands to the people without a legislative body. What was it again?

grow up. clarifying a law isn't dictating anything.

 

[Politico]

No he didn't. You lost get over it.

 

[Oldguy]

Congress makes a stupid-assed law.

Obama tells his people to ignore it.

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You mean like the Nutter's are going on about Nullification?

Obama may have overstepped. If he has, either the Congress or the Courts will slap it down. That's how the system works.

 

[Yurt]

No he didn't. You lost get over it.

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[Seawytch]

Congress makes a stupid-assed law.

Obama tells his people to ignore it.

.

You mean like the Nutter's are going on about Nullification?

Obama may have overstepped. If he has, either the Congress or the Courts will slap it down. That's how the system works.

And then Congress will have to explain why they prevented this research. Public opinion will not be on their side.

 

[Oldguy]

so you support obama undermining the legislative branch when it suits your agenda....no surprise

I support stupid-assed laws not being enforced.

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Then you're exactly the same as our resident Nutter's who boldly announce they won't submit to any new gun regulations. You're as extremist as they are.

 

[jillian]

President Barack Obama's proposals for tackling gun violence are drawing praise from scientists, who particularly support Obama's lifting of bans on federal gun research.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have been barred from supporting research into gun violence since the 1990s, when Congress inserted language into budgetary legislation forbidding the agency from using money to "advocate or promote gun control." Because research into the causes of gun crime could potentially be used to do just that, the agency froze its gun violence research program. The National Institutes of Health has operated under similar restrictions since 2011.

Obama announced today (Jan. 16) that he would sign a presidential memorandum informing the CDC that the language in the budgetary bill does not legally prevent gun research. He also said he will push for an additional $10 million in CDC funding in 2014 earmarked for research on the causes of gun violence, including potential links with video games and media. The move won acclaim from researchers.

Obama Gun Proposals Praised by Scientists - Yahoo! News

no. it sounds more like he told them that they don't have to be afraid to research gun violence, which isn't prohibited by the statute in any event.

do you think research is equal to advocacy?

 

[Yurt]

President Barack Obama's proposals for tackling gun violence are drawing praise from scientists, who particularly support Obama's lifting of bans on federal gun research.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have been barred from supporting research into gun violence since the 1990s, when Congress inserted language into budgetary legislation forbidding the agency from using money to "advocate or promote gun control." Because research into the causes of gun crime could potentially be used to do just that, the agency froze its gun violence research program. The National Institutes of Health has operated under similar restrictions since 2011.

Obama announced today (Jan. 16) that he would sign a presidential memorandum informing the CDC that the language in the budgetary bill does not legally prevent gun research. He also said he will push for an additional $10 million in CDC funding in 2014 earmarked for research on the causes of gun violence, including potential links with video games and media. The move won acclaim from researchers.

Obama Gun Proposals Praised by Scientists - Yahoo! News

no. it sounds more like he told them that they don't have to be afraid to research gun violence, which isn't prohibited by the statute in any event.

do you think research is equal to advocacy?

no, i do not think it is equal in fact i believe the law is ridiculous. i don't know their intent, but it could be that they believe any research done by the government agency could equate with advocacy.

good point jillian, thanks.

 

[Stephanie]

Fortuntly, Obama will have trouble getting all the Democrats on board with these because quite a few are up for re-election

One saving grace from this tyrant