Did Michele Bachmann say foreigners have no rights?

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    GOP Debate: Michele Bachmann Says Foreigners Have No Rights

    The author of this article thinks so, but to be fair I think she was simply referring to terrorists and not foreigners in general. That being said, Ron Paul's response to this was correct: "She says that the terrorists don't deserve protection under our courts. But therefore, a judgment has to be made. They are ruled a terrorist. Who rules them a terrorist?"
     
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    It's unfortunately murky legal waters. If a foreign national comes here and steals from Wal-Mart, he's treated like any other criminal defendant. If a foreign soldier shoots and kills an American solider in the sands overseas, he's treated like an enemy combatant. But there's this whole realm in between...

    I think that there SHOULD be a difference. Only American citizens should have any standing in American courts. Everyone else is either dealt with militarily or diplomatically/administratively. That's not to say "unfairly", just differently. Should be another whole body of jurisprudence.
     
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    Except that that's nowhere in the Constitution.
     
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    You can't legally claim someone as a terrorist until they been tried. Once they are deemed a terrorist, then they lose their rights.

    You either support habeas corpus or you don't.
     
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    Well the rest of my post made that exact point, so I'm not sure why you cut it off.
     
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    No, I don't think that we do, unless you're of the opinion that she was defending habeas corpus. I simply disagreed with the article's premise that she thought absolutely no foreigners had any rights in the U.S.
     
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    I see. It is a bit hyperbolic and sensationalized.
     
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    The constitiution only protects American citizens; native or naturalized.

    Miranda is not in the constitiution. Its some of the legislation that the SCOTUS has handed down to us.

    American courts are for american citizens. Foreign nationals should be deported after commiting a crime unless it is terrorism then they are and enemy combatant and subject to the rules of war.

    Bachman was doing what all politicians do. She was sidestepping the issue and put her foot in her mouth.
     
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    Where in the Constitution is that specified, however? Like the article says, "The Constitution limits the government's actions, and makes no exceptions based upon nationality or location. Every "person" is entitled to due process, a trial, and representation by an attorney before the government can take away their liberty and throw them into prison."
     

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