Did Boris Johnson lie about origin of nerve agent in Skripal case?

[Bleipriester]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

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[frigidweirdo]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Who else would have done it?

Every time this sort of thing happens and Russia is suspected, Russia plays the same game of disinformation. It's clear every time.

Proof?

Putin doesn't send his best agents over to the UK to kill people and expect them to leave too much evidence behind.

However, look at the list of people being killed by poisons.

You have another Russian killed with polonium. Who gets polonium to kill with exactly? Russia has polonium.

From the wikipedia page on Polonium

"Only about 100 grams are produced each year, practically all of it in Russia, making polonium exceedingly rare."

Litvinenko was a former Russian spy living in the UK. Died.

Victor Yushchenko was poisoned, he was also an opponent of Putin, this poisoning helped lead the way for the annexation of the Crimea.

Anti-Putin journalists are being killed in Russia.

From Russia With Blood

Evidence of Russian hitmen working in the UK.

Ten 10 Putin critics mysteriously murdered and one dead man walking


You could pass all of this off as coincidences, but there's too much there. Looking at the elections Putin runs in, and wins handsomely, because all his opponents are locked up, dead, or barred from running, shows he's ruthless.

He also knows how to play the west. The thing with the US elections, he wanted to be caught, but didn't want anyone to have the evidence to prove it.

That's his style. They know it's Russia but they can't prove it. Then Russia says "it could have come from somewhere else" "you can't prove it" blah blah.

In Russia is makes no difference, proof or not, Putin's not going anywhere. But in the west it matters.

The UK was right to say it's Russia, because it's damn obvious, even without 100% proof, that it's Russia.

Who else would kill a retired Russian spy in the UK?

 

[Bleipriester]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Who else would have done it?

Every time this sort of thing happens and Russia is suspected, Russia plays the same game of disinformation. It's clear every time.

Proof?

Putin doesn't send his best agents over to the UK to kill people and expect them to leave too much evidence behind.

However, look at the list of people being killed by poisons.

You have another Russian killed with polonium. Who gets polonium to kill with exactly? Russia has polonium.

From the wikipedia page on Polonium

"Only about 100 grams are produced each year, practically all of it in Russia, making polonium exceedingly rare."

Litvinenko was a former Russian spy living in the UK. Died.

Victor Yushchenko was poisoned, he was also an opponent of Putin, this poisoning helped lead the way for the annexation of the Crimea.

Anti-Putin journalists are being killed in Russia.

From Russia With Blood

Evidence of Russian hitmen working in the UK.

Ten 10 Putin critics mysteriously murdered and one dead man walking


You could pass all of this off as coincidences, but there's too much there. Looking at the elections Putin runs in, and wins handsomely, because all his opponents are locked up, dead, or barred from running, shows he's ruthless.

He also knows how to play the west. The thing with the US elections, he wanted to be caught, but didn't want anyone to have the evidence to prove it.

That's his style. They know it's Russia but they can't prove it. Then Russia says "it could have come from somewhere else" "you can't prove it" blah blah.

In Russia is makes no difference, proof or not, Putin's not going anywhere. But in the west it matters.

The UK was right to say it's Russia, because it's damn obvious, even without 100% proof, that it's Russia.

Who else would kill a retired Russian spy in the UK?

So? What would Russia gain from such a murder? Your sympathy? I don´t think so. The only side that gains something is the anti-Russian iron curtain coalition.
Talking about obviousness...

 

[TheOldSchool]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Boris Johnson lies about everything, so you may be right. But he did a great favor to Russia with his Brexit push, so I'm not sure why he would suddenly lie to hurt them.

 

[Bleipriester]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Boris Johnson lies about everything, so you may be right. But he did a great favor to Russia with his Brexit push, so I'm not sure why he would suddenly lie to hurt them.

I don´t see a reason to assume that he had Russia in mind or what Russia would gain from the Brexit. After all, foreign policy is still mostly national in Europe and second, Russia prefers good relations with Europe.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Boris Johnson lies about everything, so you may be right. But he did a great favor to Russia with his Brexit push, so I'm not sure why he would suddenly lie to hurt them.

I don´t see a reason to assume that he had Russia in mind or what Russia would gain from the Brexit. After all, foreign policy is still mostly national in Europe and second, Russia prefers good relations with Europe.

True or false; Russia prefers a weaker, fractured Europe

 

[Bleipriester]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Boris Johnson lies about everything, so you may be right. But he did a great favor to Russia with his Brexit push, so I'm not sure why he would suddenly lie to hurt them.

I don´t see a reason to assume that he had Russia in mind or what Russia would gain from the Brexit. After all, foreign policy is still mostly national in Europe and second, Russia prefers good relations with Europe.

True or false; Russia prefers a weaker, fractured Europe

Actually not. Russia has economic ties with Europe and prefers rather a sovereign Europe that they can rely on, that they are part of.

 

[Bleipriester]

I see, the thread was moved to the conspiracy forum. But for what reason?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Boris Johnson lies about everything, so you may be right. But he did a great favor to Russia with his Brexit push, so I'm not sure why he would suddenly lie to hurt them.

I don´t see a reason to assume that he had Russia in mind or what Russia would gain from the Brexit. After all, foreign policy is still mostly national in Europe and second, Russia prefers good relations with Europe.

True or false; Russia prefers a weaker, fractured Europe

Actually not. Russia has economic ties with Europe and prefers rather a sovereign Europe that they can rely on, that they are part of.

Mmmm I don't think so. They would not have intervened to help Brexit along if that were the case. Russia hates NATO, and Brexit fractures the EU of which many countries are NATO members.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Who else would have done it?

Every time this sort of thing happens and Russia is suspected, Russia plays the same game of disinformation. It's clear every time.

Proof?

Putin doesn't send his best agents over to the UK to kill people and expect them to leave too much evidence behind.

However, look at the list of people being killed by poisons.

You have another Russian killed with polonium. Who gets polonium to kill with exactly? Russia has polonium.

From the wikipedia page on Polonium

"Only about 100 grams are produced each year, practically all of it in Russia, making polonium exceedingly rare."

Litvinenko was a former Russian spy living in the UK. Died.

Victor Yushchenko was poisoned, he was also an opponent of Putin, this poisoning helped lead the way for the annexation of the Crimea.

Anti-Putin journalists are being killed in Russia.

From Russia With Blood

Evidence of Russian hitmen working in the UK.

Ten 10 Putin critics mysteriously murdered and one dead man walking


You could pass all of this off as coincidences, but there's too much there. Looking at the elections Putin runs in, and wins handsomely, because all his opponents are locked up, dead, or barred from running, shows he's ruthless.

He also knows how to play the west. The thing with the US elections, he wanted to be caught, but didn't want anyone to have the evidence to prove it.

That's his style. They know it's Russia but they can't prove it. Then Russia says "it could have come from somewhere else" "you can't prove it" blah blah.

In Russia is makes no difference, proof or not, Putin's not going anywhere. But in the west it matters.

The UK was right to say it's Russia, because it's damn obvious, even without 100% proof, that it's Russia.

Who else would kill a retired Russian spy in the UK?

So? What would Russia gain from such a murder? Your sympathy? I don´t think so. The only side that gains something is the anti-Russian iron curtain coalition.
Talking about obviousness...

So? What would Russia gain from such a murder?

What did Russia gain from the murder of Trotsky?

 

[Bleipriester]

Johnson suggested the probe linked the Nowitschok poison to Russia with all certainty but now it came out that this is simply not true and the source of the nerve agent has not been identified. When accused of lying, Johnson claimed his statement was only about the nature of the poison. Who believes this mad man?

Johnson training for the Jihad in Syria:

Johnson in Syria:

UK Chem Lab contradicts muppet Boris Johnson on Skripal findings | MINA Report
Britain’s Boris Johnson accused of misleading public over Skripal poisoning evidence

Related:
Smelly Cauliflower-Johnson considers to join if Phrump attacks Syria again
Boris Johnson wants to behead President Assad
New UK regime under May also supports al-Qaeda

Boris Johnson lies about everything, so you may be right. But he did a great favor to Russia with his Brexit push, so I'm not sure why he would suddenly lie to hurt them.

I don´t see a reason to assume that he had Russia in mind or what Russia would gain from the Brexit. After all, foreign policy is still mostly national in Europe and second, Russia prefers good relations with Europe.

True or false; Russia prefers a weaker, fractured Europe

Actually not. Russia has economic ties with Europe and prefers rather a sovereign Europe that they can rely on, that they are part of.

Mmmm I don't think so. They would not have intervened to help Brexit along if that were the case. Russia hates NATO, and Brexit fractures the EU of which many countries are NATO members.

That´s just another democrat US claim: Russian bid to influence Brexit vote detailed in new US Senate report

Europe needs to get rid of US intervention and meddling. The result is always war, death and another destroyed country. The same applies to every other region. Also, the American people needs to get rid of this two party regime.

We can see that Obama launched the second Cold War and that the Trump gang continues this "policy".

 

[waltky]

Skripal is recovering from poisoning...

Poisoned Russian agent Sergei Skripal recovering rapidly, hospital says
April 6, 2018 - Former Russian spy Sergei Skripal is no longer in a critical condition and his health is improving rapidly, more than a month after he was poisoned with a nerve agent in England, the hospital treating him said on Friday.

Skripal, 66, who as a colonel in Russian military intelligence betrayed dozens of agents to Britain’s foreign spy service, was found slumped unconscious on a bench in the city of Salisbury along with his daughter Yulia on March 4. Britain blamed Russia for the poisoning, the first known offensive use of such a nerve agent on European soil since World War Two. Moscow denied any involvement and suggested Britain had carried out the attack to stoke anti-Russian hysteria. After weeks of no reported change in his condition, the hospital confirmed that Skripal, who had been treated under heavy sedation, was now making fast progress. “He is responding well to treatment, improving rapidly and is no longer in a critical condition,” Christine Blanshard, Medical Director at Salisbury District Hospital, said in a statement.

Prime Minister Theresa May said the Skripals were poisoned with Novichok, a deadly group of nerve agents developed by the Soviet military in the 1970s and 1980s. Russia has said it does not have such nerve agents and President Vladimir Putin dismissed as nonsense the notion that Moscow would have poisoned Skripal and his 33-year-old daughter. The attack prompted the biggest Western expulsion of Russian diplomats since the Cold War as allies in Europe and the United States sided with May’s view that Moscow was either responsible or had lost control of the nerve agent. Moscow has hit back by expelling Western diplomats, questioning how Britain knows that Russia was responsible and offering its rival interpretations, including that it amounted to a plot by British secret services.

Skripal’s improvement marks the latest twist in an affair that British and Russian diplomats have variously compared with Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie mysteries. Doctors had initially feared that the Skripals might have suffered permanent brain damage. A British judge said last month that the attack might have left them with compromised mental capacity, with an unclear effect on their long-term health. The hospital did not say whether either Sergei or Yulia would suffer long term effects. Britain’s foreign office welcomed the improvement in the Skripals but said they were “likely to have ongoing medical needs”. One toxicologist said recovery in such cases was possible. “We know that nerve agents cause a temporary but potentially lengthy effect on the brain and nervous system. What we also know however, is that with time the body clears the nerve agent away,” Chris Morris, a doctor at Newcastle University’s Medical Toxicology Centre, said in a statement. “If the correct treatment is given quickly and the right support provided, then recovery is typically very good.”

Yulia’s health has also improved rapidly. On Thursday, she issued a statement through British police to thank hospital staff and people who came to her help when “when my father and I were incapacitated”. Russian state television reported that Yulia had phoned her cousin in Russia and told her that she and her father were both recovering and that she expected to leave hospital soon. Their recovery could ultimately help British counter-terrorism police piece together how they were attacked. British authorities have denied the cousin, Viktoria Skripal, a visa to visit the patients, the Home Office (interior ministry) said on Friday. Victoria Skripal told Sky News that the “British must have something to hide” after the decision.

CLAIMS, COUNTER-CLAIMS AND THREATS

 

[TheOldSchool]

Europe needs to get rid of US intervention and meddling. The result is always war, death and another destroyed country.

How do you expect them to do that? Especially now that the EU has lost the UK. The UK, of course, being desperate for America's support now that they've turned against their neighbors, is unlikely to oppose the U.S. on much.

 

[Bleipriester]

Europe needs to get rid of US intervention and meddling. The result is always war, death and another destroyed country.

How do you expect them to do that? Especially now that the EU has lost the UK. The UK, of course, being desperate for America's support now that they've turned against their neighbors, is unlikely to oppose the U.S. on much.

If you have proper government you don´t have to fear memes on social media. If you have proper economy, you don´t have to fear sanctions. If you have proper military, you don´t have to fear threats and blackmail. Europe could have all of it.
And whether the UK is EU member or not, they have been Uncle Sam´s lapdog for decades now, always the first to join US interventions. Actually, freed from the weight of this lapdog, the EU could make a major step towards sovereignty and being an actual world power. The island must act carefully. If Europe has to choose between Coca Cola and Gazprom, it will choose Gazprom.

 

[Bleipriester]

Before any regime functionaries can move my new thread to the conspiracy forum, I just add it to this one.

More lies in the Skripal case. OPCW head, formally Turkey´s Nato representative, made false statements about the amount of the poison allegedly used to kill Skripal and his daughter. It is not just an error. It is about 50 - 100 grams vs "rather milligrams", the OPCW contradicts its director.

Weapons Watchdog Corrects Estimate of Nerve Agent Used in U.K. Attack

OPCW Spokesperson’s Statement on Amount of Nerve Agent Used in Salisbury