Did big banks benefit from bank transfer day?

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Big Banks Lose Billions On

Looks like yes. The OWS movement encouraged people to move their money from big banks ot credit unions in order to hurt the banks and instead ended up helping them.

Another win for capitalism and freedom of choice.
 
Banks aren't the enemy. Banks lend money to small businesses to become big businesses. Banks have always been the backbone of America's prosperity until the early 90's when a democrat majority under a pervert president forced banks to make bad loans. The federal government actually threatened banks with civil rights litigation if they refused to make risky loans. The Fannie Mae private sector/federal government monstrosity guaranteed the bad loans until Fannie went under during a democrat majority in congress.
 
Big Banks Lose Billions On

Looks like yes. The OWS movement encouraged people to move their money from big banks ot credit unions in order to hurt the banks and instead ended up helping them.

Another win for capitalism and freedom of choice.
How do you see that as helping the big banks?
from the linked piece
By removing hundreds of small-time accounts with low balances, they would actually be saving money on their premiums. Housel explains:

. . . in the past banks could earn money [from customers with lower balances] from overdraft fees and debit interchange fees and a lot of that has been scaled down through recent regulations…

People are going to be moving to credit unions, and that’s good for them because they’re going to have lower fees, they’re going to have better service, they’re going to have the feeling that they are investing in their community.

And then the banks are going to be better off because they are getting rid of their least-profitable or not profitable clients.
 
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Big Banks Lose Billions On

Looks like yes. The OWS movement encouraged people to move their money from big banks ot credit unions in order to hurt the banks and instead ended up helping them.

Another win for capitalism and freedom of choice.

Looks like I was right. http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/192888-nov-5-and-8is-dump-your-bank-day.html#post4367090

Yes. At least about the banks benefiting from it. Im not convinced the protesters have been hurt.
 
Big Banks Lose Billions On

Looks like yes. The OWS movement encouraged people to move their money from big banks ot credit unions in order to hurt the banks and instead ended up helping them.

Another win for capitalism and freedom of choice.

Worst spin ever. You really are a retard.

Just for the record, since credit unions came into existence, the big banks have fought tooth and nail to limit the ability of people to CHOOSE credit unions as their banks. It's really only because the big banks lost that fight that this move your money thing could have happened now.
 
Big Banks Lose Billions On

Looks like yes. The OWS movement encouraged people to move their money from big banks ot credit unions in order to hurt the banks and instead ended up helping them.

Another win for capitalism and freedom of choice.
How do you see that as helping the big banks?
from the linked piece
By removing hundreds of small-time accounts with low balances, they would actually be saving money on their premiums. Housel explains:

. . . in the past banks could earn money [from customers with lower balances] from overdraft fees and debit interchange fees and a lot of that has been scaled down through recent regulations…

People are going to be moving to credit unions, and that’s good for them because they’re going to have lower fees, they’re going to have better service, they’re going to have the feeling that they are investing in their community.

And then the banks are going to be better off because they are getting rid of their least-profitable or not profitable clients.

What a load of horse manure. If that were true then banks would be giving away toasters to get you to leave.
 
Banks aren't the enemy. Banks lend money to small businesses to become big businesses. Banks have always been the backbone of America's prosperity until the early 90's when a democrat majority under a pervert president forced banks to make bad loans. The federal government actually threatened banks with civil rights litigation if they refused to make risky loans. The Fannie Mae private sector/federal government monstrosity guaranteed the bad loans until Fannie went under during a democrat majority in congress.
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Big Banks Lose Billions On

Looks like yes. The OWS movement encouraged people to move their money from big banks ot credit unions in order to hurt the banks and instead ended up helping them.

Another win for capitalism and freedom of choice.
Looks like I was right. http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/politics/econom...ml#post4367090
Yes. At least about the banks benefiting from it. Im not convinced the protesters have been hurt.
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First Whitehall. Yes banks are our friends and that's why they took the bailout money, that's why they have paid 100's of millions of dollars in fines and many, many more cases are waiting for hearings against the banks for fraud and predatory lending. And banks aren't rushing out borrowing money to small businesses. The banks get interest on their excess reserves paid to them by the Fed.
Which brings up a second point. Now why would banks be benefiting from all the 100's of million dollars transfered out, when they actually lose income on said monies via interest on excess resreves?
Final point, I'm glad people are getting a clue and are bailing out of the Big Banks. Anyone who isn't completely brainwashed by their ideology would know that Big Banks have pawned America! The Big Banks broke laws just so they could take advantage of every day people. They got bailed out and then again turned their backs on Main Street America but thatr hasn't stopped them for looking for more ways to fuck people over. And people actually think Big Banks are great! Man, some people on these boards have ZERO morals.
 
The average account balance in the new accounts opened at the credit unions by the people who left the big banks was $7,000. That is not unprofitable riff-raff. The average American family only has $7,490 cash savings per family.

$4.5 Billion in new deposits for the credit unions means the banks lost even more than that. Many people likely closed their accounts without opening a new one elsewhere. Considering the average bank leverage ratio is 12:1 that means those big banks lost $60 Billion.
 
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Looks like a big win for credit unions.

And if that helps out the bigger retail banks at the same time?

Hey that's great news, too!
 
Big Banks Lose Billions On

Looks like yes. The OWS movement encouraged people to move their money from big banks ot credit unions in order to hurt the banks and instead ended up helping them.

Another win for capitalism and freedom of choice.

Argument not bought. If the big banks didn't want more checking account holders they wouldn't be sending me junk mail begging me to open an account with them.
 
Banks aren't the enemy. Banks lend money to small businesses to become big businesses.
No they aren't. That's why people are pissed at them.

Banks have always been the backbone of America's prosperity until the early 90's when a democrat majority under a pervert president forced banks to make bad loans. The federal government actually threatened banks with civil rights litigation if they refused to make risky loans.
That's not even true. The federal government threatened banks who refused to make loans to black people with equal or better qualifications than the whites that the banks did made loans to. There's a big difference.
 
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I don't believe in guilt by association.

Not for people, and not for banks, either.

This clueless painting of all corporations and all of Wall Street with broad brush strokes is one of my major complaints about the OWS movement.
 
I don't believe in guilt by association.

Not for people, and not for banks, either.

This clueless painting of all corporations and all of Wall Street with broad brush strokes is one of my major complaints about the OWS movement.

That's exactly what it is. Marxism or Class-warfare paints with broad brush strokes to demonize a target for a political purpose.

Banks make millions from the smaller accounts by charging overdraft fees and service fees. Banks make millions from the larger deposits as well because they use their money to lend earning compound interest in short and long-term loans. Less money on hand means less profit.

Personally I think government needs to stop meddling in the operation of private companies.
 
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The OWS bank transfer day is having a huge impact.

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Banks makin' out like bandits on overdraft fees...
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Overdraft Fees: Banking Comeback Player of the Year
9/24/12 --- The 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform bill fought back against bank overdraft programs that had been ripping off consumers. Has the legislation helped?
Bank overdraft fees were considered a plague among customers but a boon to financial institutions. And while the overdraft fees trended down in the immediate aftermath of the Dodd-Frank reform, overdraft fee revenue is on the rise again. A report out from Moebs Services shows overdraft fee revenue rising 2.1% through the first half of 2012, to $31.5 billion, a rise of $700 million. Do consumers never learn? Bank overdrafts have made a strong comeback this year due to demand from consumers who see the fees as not as onerous as they used to be, according to the Lake Bluff, Ill.-based economic analysis firm.

In June 2008, Moebs says bank overdrafts accumulated $36.8 billion in revenues for financial institutions. But by June 2011, overdrafts had fallen to $30.8 billion. Banks aimed to make up lost overdraft revenue by adding fees to ATM transactions, checking and savings accounts, and cutting debit and credit card rewards programs. Consumers should not expect banks to curb their account fees or add perks to card rewards programs just because overdraft fees are rising. Don't expect banks to rein in overdrafts, either, even though Congress and consumer advocacy groups are watching closely, Moebs says.

"It is important to notice this ... is playing out against the backdrop of increased scrutiny of overdrafts by the government and consumer advocates," explains Michael Moebs, economist and CEO of Moebs Services. "Despite regulation and legislation, such as 2008's Truth in Savings, 2010's Reg E opt-in requirements and the 2011 overdraft guidelines issued by the FDIC, consumers' use of overdrafts shows no indication of going away." Moebs also reports that the median cost of a bank overdraft rose by $1, to $28 per overdraft -- still way lower than what so many saw on bank statements back in 2008 and 2009.

Geography counts, too. The Moebs data says bank consumers in Green Bay, Wis., paid, on average, $8 per checking account overdraft, while consumers in Gainesville, Fla., were socked with overdraft fees as high as $45. Most banks stick customers with overdraft fees of between $20 and $29 (51% of all U.S. banks, Moebs says). But 43% are also in the $30 to $39 range. The data suggests that consumers have more power than they think if they shop around. "Price diversity allows the consumer to opt for a low price overdraft service with a financial institution which has a safety net approach, as opposed to choosing a more expensive approach at a depository whose policy is to treat overdrafts as penalties," Moebs says.

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