Did Anglos Steal Thanksgiving?

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    Did the Anglos steal Thanksgiving? - CNN.com

    While Garcia makes some good points one should note that:

    1. Other Anglo state histories have been submerged beneath the Yankee mythology as well, such as Virginia being the first colony, not Plymoth, as many think is true today.

    2. No one can steal 'Thanksgiving', as it is our holiday to commemorate our debt to the Creator, something that most cultures have done for millenia in various forms. If one can say we stole it from the Spanish because they did it first, then one could just as well say the Romans had it stolen from them, etc back to the Egyptians celebrating such feasts to their gods.

    Cant we ever get past the rivalry nonsense and just celebrate the fact that all of us human beings are in debted to God the Creator?
     
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    Plymouth was the first successful colony. The Virginia colonists died.

    It is a commentary on the American educational system that we do not today know why we celebrate Thanksgiving.

    The Harvest Feast occurred every fall after the work of harvesting was done and the people prepared for the winter to come. Likely such celebrations have always occurred to enjoy the fruits of backbreaking labor. Thanksgiving did not become a holiday until Abraham Lincoln proclaimed it so to give Thanks that the union was preserved.

    Everything else is a nice story.
     
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    Perhaps we SHOULD oppose Thanksgiving, as a statement that we would have been better off had the union not been preserved.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts

    Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Colony of Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Agreed.
     
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    Thanksgiving comes to us from the Latin...Than, meaning "you've won," ksgi, meaning "the toss," ving, meaning "will you kick or receive?"
     
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    Huh?!?! Jamestown, VA-1612 Plymouth, MA-1620!!!
     
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    Wikipedia isn't the best source for information.
     
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    Yet, you just can't get away from the fact that the Virginial colony all died! To the last one, unless the last few just wandered off.
     
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    The first Virginia colony was established in the late 1500's and did die off, but Jamestown, which was established in the early 1600's did not doe off.
     
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    For basic fact of the public domain type stuff it is more than adequate.
     

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