Did Ahmadinejad really say, "...Wipe Israel off the map?"

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No. But it gets repeated an awful lot. What he actually said was,

""Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.""
WIPED OFF THE MAP - The Rumor of the Century by Arash Norouzi

In English it translates to,

""The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"."

Not for the first time, some have inserted their own interpretation of things and claimed that's what was said. And if an Arab-sounding site doesn't convince you,

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...-said-that-Israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map.

"Ahmadinejad's alleged condemnation of Israel came at a "World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran in Oct. 2005, in which he was quoted by an English-language Iranian news site as saying "Israel must be wiped off the map." But as several analyses of the original Farsi statement show, this appears to be a mistranslation.

Arash Norouzi of the Mossadegh Project noted in 2007 that Ahmadinejad "never... uttered the words 'map,' 'wipe out,' or even 'Israel'" in his statement. Rather, he argued, the translation should have been that "this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." (Both The Washington Post and The Atlantic came up with similarly variant translations.)"

The Wipe Israel Off The Map Hoax

"The Guardian's Jonathan Steele cites four different translations, from professors to the BBC to the New York Times and even pro-Israel news outlets, in none of those translations is the word "map" used. The closest translation to what the Iranian President actually said is, "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time," or a narrow relative thereof. In no version is the word "map" used or a context of mass genocide or hostile military action even hinted at.

The acceptance of the word "map" seemingly originated with the New York Times, who later had to back away from this false translation. The BBC also wrongly used the word and, in comments to Steele, later accepted their mistake but refused to issue a retraction."


Why's it matter? Well, absent a threat by a country's leader to wipe a country off the map it becomes a lot harder to justify going to war with them or oppose their nuclear program.
 
Yes he did, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency-

The "wiped off the map" translation originated from the state-controlled Islamic Republic News Agency.

Being state controlled, I am apt to believe their translation, as they are the voice of Iran's leaders.



No. But it gets repeated an awful lot. What he actually said was,

""Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.""
WIPED OFF THE MAP - The Rumor of the Century by Arash Norouzi

In English it translates to,

""The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"."

Not for the first time, some have inserted their own interpretation of things and claimed that's what was said. And if an Arab-sounding site doesn't convince you,

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...-said-that-Israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map.

"Ahmadinejad's alleged condemnation of Israel came at a "World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran in Oct. 2005, in which he was quoted by an English-language Iranian news site as saying "Israel must be wiped off the map." But as several analyses of the original Farsi statement show, this appears to be a mistranslation.

Arash Norouzi of the Mossadegh Project noted in 2007 that Ahmadinejad "never... uttered the words 'map,' 'wipe out,' or even 'Israel'" in his statement. Rather, he argued, the translation should have been that "this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." (Both The Washington Post and The Atlantic came up with similarly variant translations.)"

The Wipe Israel Off The Map Hoax

"The Guardian's Jonathan Steele cites four different translations, from professors to the BBC to the New York Times and even pro-Israel news outlets, in none of those translations is the word "map" used. The closest translation to what the Iranian President actually said is, "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time," or a narrow relative thereof. In no version is the word "map" used or a context of mass genocide or hostile military action even hinted at.

The acceptance of the word "map" seemingly originated with the New York Times, who later had to back away from this false translation. The BBC also wrongly used the word and, in comments to Steele, later accepted their mistake but refused to issue a retraction."


Why's it matter? Well, absent a threat by a country's leader to wipe a country off the map it becomes a lot harder to justify going to war with them or oppose their nuclear program.
 
Well, he would be wrong. Read it yourself. From their state website-

Tuesday 03 June 2008 - 10:05
President says Zionist Regime of Israel faces deadend



President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Monday that the Zionist Regime of Israel faces a deadend and will under God's grace be wiped off the map.

"O dear Imam (Khomeini)! You said the Zionist Regime that is a usurper and illegitimate regime and a cancerous tumor should be wiped off the map. I should say that your illuminating remark and cause is going to come true today. The Zionist Regime has
lost its existence philosophy... the Zionist regime faces a complete deadend and under God's grace your wish will soon be materialized and the corrupt element will be wiped off the map," said President Ahmadinejad.

Addressing a ceremony on the 19th departure anniversary of the late Imam Khomeini, President Ahmadinejad said the Palestinian nation has distinguished its path and is proceeding rightly in the way.

Elsewhere in his remarks, the President termed the late Imam Khomeini as "flag bearer of monotheism" in the contemporary world and said Iranians will continue to remain loyal to his aspirations.
Tehran, June 3, IRNA

Presidency of The Islamic Republic of Iran News Service




the voice of Israels leaders.

 
Ya, and if you read US coverage of that speech it mentions the person who did the translation translating it wrong as every other translator then confirmed.

""Ahmadinejad's alleged condemnation of Israel came at a "World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran in Oct. 2005, in which he was quoted by an English-language Iranian news site as saying "Israel must be wiped off the map." But as several analyses of the original Farsi statement show, this appears to be a mistranslation."

Believe what you want, thankfully you're not in charge of anything.
 
So, you take the word of those that have an agenda over the actual Iranian presidential website. Go ahead, keep your head buried in the sand. I guess you also think their quran doesn't state any of this-

4:91 "Take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant."

4:101 "The disbelievers are an open enemy to you."

4:144 "Choose not disbelievers for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you?"

5:51 "Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. ... He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them."

8:39 "Fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah."

9:5 "Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush."

9:29 "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah."

9:73 "Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end."

9:113 "It is not for the Prophet, and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of idolaters even though they may be near of kin (to them) after it hath become clear that they are people of hell-fire."

9:123 "Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you."

22:15 "Whoso is wont to think (through envy) that Allah will not give him (Muhammad) victory in the world and the Hereafter (and is enraged at the thought of his victory), let him stretch a rope up to the roof (of his dwelling), and let him hang himself."


Ya, and if you read US coverage of that speech it mentions the person who did the translation translating it wrong as every other translator then confirmed.

""Ahmadinejad's alleged condemnation of Israel came at a "World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran in Oct. 2005, in which he was quoted by an English-language Iranian news site as saying "Israel must be wiped off the map." But as several analyses of the original Farsi statement show, this appears to be a mistranslation."

Believe what you want, thankfully you're not in charge of anything.
 



REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

(Reuters) - A day after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments at the UnitedNations, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met a fringe group of ultra-religious Jews who seek the dismantling of the state of Israel.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

"Zionism has greatly weakened and, God willing, it will be destroyed soon and then all Jews, Muslims and Christians can live peacefully with one another," Ahmadinejad told nearly a dozen rabbis from Neturei Karta International on Wednesday.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters
 



REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

(Reuters) - A day after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments at the UnitedNations, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met a fringe group of ultra-religious Jews who seek the dismantling of the state of Israel.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

"Zionism has greatly weakened and, God willing, it will be destroyed soon and then all Jews, Muslims and Christians can live peacefully with one another," Ahmadinejad told nearly a dozen rabbis from Neturei Karta International on Wednesday.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters


That comment was made in 2006 or 2007. It is now 2015, and Zionism is stronger then ever.

Like I said, those are not real Jews.
 



REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

(Reuters) - A day after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments at the UnitedNations, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met a fringe group of ultra-religious Jews who seek the dismantling of the state of Israel.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

"Zionism has greatly weakened and, God willing, it will be destroyed soon and then all Jews, Muslims and Christians can live peacefully with one another," Ahmadinejad told nearly a dozen rabbis from Neturei Karta International on Wednesday.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters


That comment was made in 2006 or 2007. It is now 2015, and Zionism is stronger then ever.

Like I said, those are not real Jews.

So they are not real Jews, because they are real Jews, that don't support your myth ?
 



REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

(Reuters) - A day after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments at the UnitedNations, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met a fringe group of ultra-religious Jews who seek the dismantling of the state of Israel.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

"Zionism has greatly weakened and, God willing, it will be destroyed soon and then all Jews, Muslims and Christians can live peacefully with one another," Ahmadinejad told nearly a dozen rabbis from Neturei Karta International on Wednesday.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters


That comment was made in 2006 or 2007. It is now 2015, and Zionism is stronger then ever.

Like I said, those are not real Jews.

So they are not real Jews, because they are real Jews, that don't support your myth ?


What myth would that be ?
 



REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

(Reuters) - A day after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments at the UnitedNations, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met a fringe group of ultra-religious Jews who seek the dismantling of the state of Israel.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

"Zionism has greatly weakened and, God willing, it will be destroyed soon and then all Jews, Muslims and Christians can live peacefully with one another," Ahmadinejad told nearly a dozen rabbis from Neturei Karta International on Wednesday.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters


That comment was made in 2006 or 2007. It is now 2015, and Zionism is stronger then ever.

Like I said, those are not real Jews.

So they are not real Jews, because they are real Jews, that don't support your myth ?


What myth would that be ?

your off the face of the map myth
 
Those aren't Jews


REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

(Reuters) - A day after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments at the UnitedNations, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met a fringe group of ultra-religious Jews who seek the dismantling of the state of Israel.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

"Zionism has greatly weakened and, God willing, it will be destroyed soon and then all Jews, Muslims and Christians can live peacefully with one another," Ahmadinejad told nearly a dozen rabbis from Neturei Karta International on Wednesday.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

That comment was made in 2006 or 2007. It is now 2015, and Zionism is stronger then ever.

Like I said, those are not real Jews.
So they are not real Jews, because they are real Jews, that don't support your myth ?

What myth would that be ?
your off the face of the map myth

No, they are fake Jews because they support Hamas , who have expressed their hatred for Jews .
 
REUTERS/BRENDAN MCDERMID

(Reuters) - A day after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments at the UnitedNations, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met a fringe group of ultra-religious Jews who seek the dismantling of the state of Israel.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

"Zionism has greatly weakened and, God willing, it will be destroyed soon and then all Jews, Muslims and Christians can live peacefully with one another," Ahmadinejad told nearly a dozen rabbis from Neturei Karta International on Wednesday.
Accused of anti-Semitism Ahmadinejad meets Jews Reuters

That comment was made in 2006 or 2007. It is now 2015, and Zionism is stronger then ever.

Like I said, those are not real Jews.
So they are not real Jews, because they are real Jews, that don't support your myth ?

What myth would that be ?
your off the face of the map myth

No, they are fake Jews because they support Hamas , who have expressed their hatred for Jews .
So they are real/fake jews who hate Jews even though they are jewish..ok got it now
 

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