DHS now going after Drunk Drivers - YAY

[ShootSpeeders]

random DUI checkpoints are legal. stopping someone for a reason is legal. that does not mean all 'searches' are legal.

They search ALL airliine passengers. And the courts allow that.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So how do you rationalize the searches routinely conducted on airplane passengers?

I don't, I think they should stop.

yes... government should only enforce your religious views and shouldn't do anything else.

I am willing to bet that you can search every single post I ever made and not find one hint I said anything like that.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

I drive drunk (legally drunk, not actually drunk) at least once a week. I've been doing that ever since I was 16 years old 41 years ago. Never been caught, never killed anyone, never got so much as a speeding ticket. You can piss off, so can the DHS.

Standard libertarian hogwash - I should be allowed to do anything i want until i actually harm someone.

In your loony land, everyone would be allowed to buy tons of dynamite at wal mart.

 

[Synthaholic]

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

Now pay attention, wingnut:

Homeland Security to assist with DWI arrests over Labor Day weekend - National Alex Jones | Examiner.com

August 30, 2012

The Department of Homeland Security is sending out its state watchdogs to arrest drunk drivers and draw their blood over Labor Day weekend.

In Tennessee, suspected drunk drivers will be subject to forced testing for blood alcohol levels. A new law allows police to get warrants and draw blood samples from people who appear to be driving impaired. Additionally, drivers can expect to see more sobriety checkpoints over the Labor Day weekend.

Tennessee has touted itself as the first state in the nation to have Transportation Security Administration (TSA) workers conducting random searches on its streets. Echoing DHS’s “See Something, Say Something” program, drivers are also urged to call authorities if they see something suspicious.

The state's Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner, Bill Gibbons, has said, 'Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane, more likely on the interstate.”

First off - Alex Jones?

Second - this is a Tennessee law, not a Federal law.

Third - who controls the Tennessee statehouse and passed this law?

Republicans.


THIS is the police state tactics that Republicans favor. Just like the wingnut SCOTUS majority has expanded police powers for entering homes without warrants, and exempting police from lawsuits when they kill your family dog, or shoot your husband or wife.

 

[Synthaholic]

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

HUH??? What laws did the feds make up here? They're just helping to enforce state laws. THINK

You're asking a lot of Quantum Douchebag.

 

[Synthaholic]

TSA (Thieving and Stealing Agency) has no jurisdiction. If they stop you for any reason don't cooperate, just say:

"What is your Probable Cause for stopping me?"
"What is your badge number? Who is your Supervisor?"

"Ever had a Personal Lawsuit slapped on you?"

If they're smart they'll just let you go. Problem is, most of them aren't, they're just Too Stupid for Fast Food.

You people better start learning what your rights are. Not what the TV says, but what they actually are.

So now the libertarian kooks think they have the right to drive drunk and kill others? Get help please.

How is pointing out that we have the right to drive down the street without being stopped by feds wrong?

I thought you wingnuts are always claiming that driving is a privilege, not a right?

 

[Synthaholic]

Welcome to the police state folks. Good thing I don't live in Tn and didn't go driving around this weekend,probably would have ended up in jail. Wonder what kind of fucking traitor judge gives them warrants to do this shit.

Republican ones.

 

[Synthaholic]

I don't, I think they should stop.

yes... government should only enforce your religious views and shouldn't do anything else.

I am willing to bet that you can search every single post I ever made and not find one hint I said anything like that.

But if we searched all your posts, would we find one where you criticize someone for saying anything like that?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

Now pay attention, wingnut:

Homeland Security to assist with DWI arrests over Labor Day weekend - National Alex Jones | Examiner.com

August 30, 2012

The Department of Homeland Security is sending out its state watchdogs to arrest drunk drivers and draw their blood over Labor Day weekend.

In Tennessee, suspected drunk drivers will be subject to forced testing for blood alcohol levels. A new law allows police to get warrants and draw blood samples from people who appear to be driving impaired. Additionally, drivers can expect to see more sobriety checkpoints over the Labor Day weekend.

Tennessee has touted itself as the first state in the nation to have Transportation Security Administration (TSA) workers conducting random searches on its streets. Echoing DHS’s “See Something, Say Something” program, drivers are also urged to call authorities if they see something suspicious.

The state's Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner, Bill Gibbons, has said, 'Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane, more likely on the interstate.”

First off - Alex Jones?

Second - this is a Tennessee law, not a Federal law.

Third - who controls the Tennessee statehouse and passed this law?

Republicans.


THIS is the police state tactics that Republicans favor. Just like the wingnut SCOTUS majority has expanded police powers for entering homes without warrants, and exempting police from lawsuits when they kill your family dog, or shoot your husband or wife.

You completely missed the point, not that I am surprised. DHS is a federal agency, they do not enforce state laws. In fact, they are specifically prohibited by federal, and state, laws from enforcing state laws. That means that, in order for DHS to arrest people for DWI, the federal government had to make up laws they can enforce.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So now the libertarian kooks think they have the right to drive drunk and kill others? Get help please.

How is pointing out that we have the right to drive down the street without being stopped by feds wrong?

I thought you wingnuts are always claiming that driving is a privilege, not a right?

That would be the other wingnuts.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

yes... government should only enforce your religious views and shouldn't do anything else.

I am willing to bet that you can search every single post I ever made and not find one hint I said anything like that.

But if we searched all your posts, would we find one where you criticize someone for saying anything like that?

You might.

 

[Synthaholic]

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

Now pay attention, wingnut:

Homeland Security to assist with DWI arrests over Labor Day weekend - National Alex Jones | Examiner.com

August 30, 2012

The Department of Homeland Security is sending out its state watchdogs to arrest drunk drivers and draw their blood over Labor Day weekend.

In Tennessee, suspected drunk drivers will be subject to forced testing for blood alcohol levels. A new law allows police to get warrants and draw blood samples from people who appear to be driving impaired. Additionally, drivers can expect to see more sobriety checkpoints over the Labor Day weekend.

Tennessee has touted itself as the first state in the nation to have Transportation Security Administration (TSA) workers conducting random searches on its streets. Echoing DHS’s “See Something, Say Something” program, drivers are also urged to call authorities if they see something suspicious.

The state's Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner, Bill Gibbons, has said, 'Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane, more likely on the interstate.”

First off - Alex Jones?

Second - this is a Tennessee law, not a Federal law.

Third - who controls the Tennessee statehouse and passed this law?

Republicans.


THIS is the police state tactics that Republicans favor. Just like the wingnut SCOTUS majority has expanded police powers for entering homes without warrants, and exempting police from lawsuits when they kill your family dog, or shoot your husband or wife.

You completely missed the point, not that I am surprised. DHS is a federal agency, they do not enforce state laws. In fact, they are specifically prohibited by federal, and state, laws from enforcing state laws. That means that, in order for DHS to arrest people for DWI, the federal government had to make up laws they can enforce.

But the Federal government hasn't made this law. Tennessee did.

You said, in direct reply to the OP:

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

 

[Synthaholic]

How is pointing out that we have the right to drive down the street without being stopped by feds wrong?

I thought you wingnuts are always claiming that driving is a privilege, not a right?

That would be the other wingnuts.

That was funny.

So you believe driving is a right?

 

[Synthaholic]

I am willing to bet that you can search every single post I ever made and not find one hint I said anything like that.

But if we searched all your posts, would we find one where you criticize someone for saying anything like that?

You might.

I doubt it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Now pay attention, wingnut:



First off - Alex Jones?

Second - this is a Tennessee law, not a Federal law.

Third - who controls the Tennessee statehouse and passed this law?

Republicans.


THIS is the police state tactics that Republicans favor. Just like the wingnut SCOTUS majority has expanded police powers for entering homes without warrants, and exempting police from lawsuits when they kill your family dog, or shoot your husband or wife.

You completely missed the point, not that I am surprised. DHS is a federal agency, they do not enforce state laws. In fact, they are specifically prohibited by federal, and state, laws from enforcing state laws. That means that, in order for DHS to arrest people for DWI, the federal government had to make up laws they can enforce.

But the Federal government hasn't made this law. Tennessee did.

You said, in direct reply to the OP:

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

Did you miss the part where federal law prohibits the feds from enforcing state law? Why do you think Congress went to all the trouble of writing a bunch of laws to make things federal crimes?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I thought you wingnuts are always claiming that driving is a privilege, not a right?

That would be the other wingnuts.

That was funny.

So you believe driving is a right?

I know the right to travel exists, and is recognized as a fundamental right under constitutional law. I am pretty sure that driving is a method of travel. I will let you figure it out for yourself.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

But if we searched all your posts, would we find one where you criticize someone for saying anything like that?

You might.

I doubt it.

I don't.

 

[Synthaholic]

You completely missed the point, not that I am surprised. DHS is a federal agency, they do not enforce state laws. In fact, they are specifically prohibited by federal, and state, laws from enforcing state laws. That means that, in order for DHS to arrest people for DWI, the federal government had to make up laws they can enforce.

But the Federal government hasn't made this law. Tennessee did.

You said, in direct reply to the OP:

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

Did you miss the part where federal law prohibits the feds from enforcing state law? Why do you think Congress went to all the trouble of writing a bunch of laws to make things federal crimes?

So this post...

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

...really has nothing to do with the OP, right?

Even as a standalone statement it doesn't make sense. Of course the Federal government makes laws they can enforce. That's part of their job!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

But the Federal government hasn't made this law. Tennessee did.

You said, in direct reply to the OP:

Did you miss the part where federal law prohibits the feds from enforcing state law? Why do you think Congress went to all the trouble of writing a bunch of laws to make things federal crimes?

So this post...

You like the idea of the federal government making up laws they can enforce?

...really has nothing to do with the OP, right?

Even as a standalone statement it doesn't make sense. Of course the Federal government makes laws they can enforce. That's part of their job!

It was more about the poster than the actual post.

 

[Synthaholic]

That would be the other wingnuts.

That was funny.

So you believe driving is a right?

I know the right to travel exists, and is recognized as a fundamental right under constitutional law. I am pretty sure that driving is a method of travel. I will let you figure it out for yourself.

Which part of the Constitution recognizes travel as a right?