Destroying education for the gifted.

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  1. Katzndogz
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    Classes for high achievers are disproportionately dominated by whites and asians. Can't have that. These programs have to be destroyed with the proper application of minorities who just don't value education as much.

    Big Racial Gap Persists in O.C. GATE Programs : Education: Classes for gifted students still disproportionately filled with whites and Asians. - Los Angeles Times

    Every day in California's public schools, some of the state's best and brightest students are brought together in special classes to tackle advanced problems of mathematics, science, history and language.

    But while these classes boast some of the state's best young minds, they also have drawn fire for what they lack: adequate numbers of black and Latino students.

    Ann Beavers, director of pupil services in Anaheim City School District, said she believes that poverty greatly influences admission into gifted programs. In her district, white and Asian children come from families that are generally wealthier, better-educated and have higher expectations for their children than those of Anaheim's Latino students, she said.

    Following the lead of scholars, schools have begun to use a broader definition, one which would deem gifted not only children with high IQs or top academic records, but those with other kinds of talents, like a flair for creativity, leadership or even athletics.

    In other words, just destroy the entire program.
     
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    Being "gifted" often means getting more complicated idiotic busywork and told you are smart for doing it.

    What is so difficult about making a Recommended Reading List for everybody? Won't the gifted just go though stuff faster and get ahead of the majority in certain subjects? Don't these computers make individual work easier?

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    Don't get me started! One of my students was accepted for the Gifted Program just as you described. I was horrified1 The letter announcing he was failing had already gone out. I had several conferences with the parents during the discussing his aptitude and work. A psychological had been done and his I.Q. was 71.

    I went to the office and questioned the principal if an error had been made. Nope! The reason given to me was they needed to fill their quota of UNDERACHIEVING STUDENTS and he was good in art. I threw up my arms and left the room.

    That's where we are going, folks.
     
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    That is so FUBAR!!
     
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    The goal is to destroy the programs for high achieving students.
     
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    My sis is a teacher.

    She is a right wing R and she can move these types of kids up two school years with her methods.

    She is so good at it that her principle just ignores her methods because they are not the ones she is supposed to use.

    She lives in florida.

    A right wing owned state.

    The right wishes kids to fail so they can distroy public education.

    They make the system unworkable every place they own the school boards.

    Why cant you guys find the same successs with your kids my sister finds?

    Because you would rather see these kids as trash we should throw away.

    How very chirstian of you
     
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    Florida voted for Obama.

    Idiot.
     
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    The problem with G&T programs in public school is that almost none of the public is G&T.

    If your kid is G&T, then they should be able to apply for a public or private grant, and they should be sent to a private academy specializing in G&T education.

    While I'm on my soapbox, I'll explain what "talented" means: It means that the parents are fucking passionate, some might say "obsessive," about their kid(s), and spend a heluva lot of time coaching them (chess, math, writing..golf...whatever). It doesn't matter what "race" they are, most kids can be talented at something. The fact is that most parents really don't want to spend a DECADE, 40 hours a week with their kid developing a talent from age 2-12. Why? Because it is PAINFUL, particularly if you have a job like so many hispanics, mowing grass, making tamales, or mopping floors.
     
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    Who runs the state ?

    Is it Obama who designs their school system?
     
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    You said Florida is "A rightwing owned state."

    Why did Obama win Fl in 2008?

    Obviously, no wing "owns" the WHOLE FUCKING STATE!

    Additionally, the only state that runs any school system is Hawaii.
     

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