Destroying America: More on the North AMerican Union

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http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union to Replace USA?
by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006
President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.

President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.
 
Whether that plan is truely Bush's idea or not, his actions would certainly make one believe it is.
 
Pale Rider said:
Whether that plan is truely Bush's idea or not, his actions would certainly make one believe it is.

Nearly EVERYONE in Washington seems happy with a "North American Union". One man nor one party can't pull this crap off.
 
dilloduck said:
Nearly EVERYONE in Washington seems happy with a "North American Union". One man nor one party can't pull this crap off.

Bush has never addressed this issue in a speech nor has any proposal about this been run by Congress. :wtf:

North American Union Already Starting to Replace USA
by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 30, 2006

In March 2005 at their summit meeting in Waco, Tex., President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin issued a joint statement announced the creation of the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” (SPP). The creation of this new agreement was never submitted to Congress for debate and decision. Instead, the U.S. Department of Commerce merely created a new division under the same title to implement working groups to advance a North American Union working agenda in a wide range of areas, including: manufactured goods, movement of goods, energy, environment, e-commerce, financial services, business facilitation, food and agriculture, transportation, and health.

SPP is headed by three top cabinet level officers of each country. Representing the United States are Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez, Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Representing Mexico are Secretario de Economía Fernando Canales, Secretario de Gobernación Carlos Abascal, and Secretario de Relaciones Exteriores, Luis Ernesto Derbéz. Representing Canada are Minister of Industry David L. Emerson, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety, Anne McLellan, and Minister of Foreign Affairs Pierre Stewart Pettigrew.

Reporting in June 2005 to the heads of state of the three countries, the trilateral SPP emphasized the extensive working group structure that had been established to pursue an ambitious agenda:

In carrying out your instructions, we established working groups under both agendas of the Partnership – Security and Prosperity. We held roundtables with stakeholders, meetings with business groups and briefing sessions with Legislatures, as well as with other relevant political jurisdictions. The result is a detailed series of actions and recommendations designed to increase the competitiveness of North America and the security of our people.

This is not a theoretical exercise being prepared so it can be submitted for review. Instead, SPP is producing an action agreement to be implemented directly by regulations, without any envisioned direct Congressional oversight.

Upon your review and approval, we will once again meet with stakeholders and work with them to implement the workplans that we have developed.

And again, the June 2005 SPP report stresses:

The success of our efforts will be defined less by the contents of the work plans than by the actual implementation of initiatives and strategies that will make North America more prosperous and more secure.

Reviewing the specific working agenda initiatives, the goal to implement directly is apparent. Nearly every work plan is characterized by action steps described variously as “our three countries signed a Framework of Common Principles …” or “we have signed a Memorandum of Understanding …,” or “we have signed a declaration of intent …” etc. Once again, none of the 30 or so working agendas makes any mention of submitting decisions to the U.S. Congress for review and approval. No new U.S. laws are contemplated for the Bush administration to submit to Congress. Instead, the plan is obviously to knit together the North American Union completely under the radar, through a process of regulations and directives issued by various U.S. government agencies.

What we have here is an executive branch plan being implemented by the Bush administration to construct a new super-regional structure completely by fiat. Yet, we can find no single speech in which President Bush has ever openly expressed to the American people his intention to create a North American Union by evolving NAFTA into this NAFTA-Plus as a first, implementing step.

Anyone who has wondered why President Bush has not bothered to secure our borders is advised to spend some time examining the SPP working groups’ agenda. In every area of activity, the SPP agenda stresses free and open movement of people, trade, and capital within the North American Union. Once the SPP agenda is implemented with appropriate departmental regulations, there will be no area of immigration policy, trade rules, environmental regulations, capital flows, public health, plus dozens of other key policy areas countries that the U.S. government will be able to decide alone, or without first consulting with some appropriate North American Union regulatory body. At best, our border with Mexico will become a speed bump, largely erased, with little remaining to restrict the essentially free movement of people, trade, and capital.

Canada has established an SPP working group within their Foreign Affairs department. Mexico has placed the SPP within the office of the Secretaria de Economia and created and extensive website for the Alianza Para La Securidad y La Prosperidad de Améica del Norte (ASPAN). On this Mexican website, ASPAN is described as “a permanent, tri-lateral process to create a major integration of North America.”

The extensive working group activity being implemented right now by the government of Mexico, Canada, and the United States is consistent with the blueprint laid out in the May 2005 report of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), titled “Building a North American Community.”

The Task Force’s central recommendation is the establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community, the boundaries of which would be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter. (page xvii)

The only borders or tariffs which would remain would be those around the continent, not those between the countries within:

Its (the North American Community’s) boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America. (page 3)

What will happen to the sovereignty of the United States? The model is the European Community. While the United States would supposedly remain as a country, many of our nation-state prerogatives would ultimately be superseded by the authority of a North American court and parliamentary body, just as the U.S. dollar would have to be surrendered for the “Amero,” the envisioned surviving currency of the North American Union. The CFR report left no doubt that the North American Union was intended to evolve through a series of regulatory decisions:

While each country must retain its right to impose and maintain unique regulations consonant with its national priorities and income level, the three countries should make a concerted effort to encourage regulatory convergence.

The three leaders highlighted the importance of addressing this issue at their March 2005 summit in Texas. The Security and Prosperity Partnership for North America they signed recognizes the need for a stronger focus on building the economic strength of the continent in addition to ensuring its security. To this end, it emphasizes regulatory issues. Officials in all three countries have formed a series of working groups under designated lead cabinet ministers. These working groups have been ordered to produce an action plan for approval by the leaders within ninety days, by late June 2005, and to report regularly thereafter. (pages 23-24)

Again, the CFR report says nothing about reporting to Congress or to the American people. What we have underway here with the SPP could arguably be termed a bureaucratic coup d’etat. If that is not the intent, then President Bush should rein in the bureaucracy until the American people have been fully informed of the true nature of our government’s desire to create a North American Union. Otherwise, the North American Union will become a reality in 2010 as planned. Right now, the only check or balance being exercised is arguably Congressional oversight of the executive bureaucracy, even though Congress itself might not fully appreciate what is happening.
 
Mr.Conley said:
Dude, President Bush is just obeying his Constitutional mandate to protect us from terrorists. He is trying to protect us. Congress doesn't need to oversee this.

He is protecting us by effectively dissolving our borders? :wtf:
 
Yea, if there is no southern border, then there are no illegal Mexican aliens to cross it. That solves the illegal immigration problem and the problem of stoping terrorists trying to sneak intothe country from the south. Kills two birds with one stone.
 
dilloduck said:
Nearly EVERYONE in Washington seems happy with a "North American Union". One man nor one party can't pull this crap off.

Thank God for that.

Hobbit posted a list of those trying to give our country away, and those who aren't. President Bush is on the list that IS!
 
Mr.Conley said:
Yea, if there is no southern border, then there are no illegal Mexican aliens to cross it. That solves the illegal immigration problem and the problem of stoping terrorists trying to sneak intothe country from the south. Kills two birds with one stone.

Just "how" does it solve the problem?
 
Pale Rider said:
Just "how" does it solve the problem?
Well, if the North American Union is formed, then the borders between our nation and Mexico and Canada cease to exist. That means that we don't have a southern border (Except with Belize and Guatemala- but they're too small to count) If there is no southern border on the Rio anymore, how can anyone cross it illegally?
Plus, if the entire continent is united as one country, then both ourselves, the Canadians, and the Mexicans are all citizens. Since all the Mexicans would all be legal citizens, how could they come to this part of the "country" illegally?
 
Mr.Conley said:
Well, if the North American Union is formed, then the borders between our nation and Mexico and Canada cease to exist. That means that we don't have a southern border (Except with Belize and Guatemala- but they're too small to count) If there is no southern border on the Rio anymore, how can anyone cross it illegally?
Plus, if the entire continent is united as one country, then both ourselves, the Canadians, and the Mexicans are all citizens. Since all the Mexicans would all be legal citizens, how could they come to this part of the "country" illegally?

You're joking, right?
 
I've never heard of Bush being in on it, but damned if I'm giving up the America that my anscestors fought for so some idiot council can have their way.
 
ScreamingEagle said:
Bush has never addressed this issue in a speech nor has any proposal about this been run by Congress. :wtf:



This developing plan can't be a secret to everyone in Congress nor any political action groups. Why is NO ONE exposing any of these objectives to Americans? If Congress knows about it and plans to wail and whine about it AFTER it happens, they are just as guilty as the rest with an intent to dilute America into mush.:finger:
 
dilloduck said:
This developing plan can't be a secret to everyone in Congress nor any political action groups. Why is NO ONE exposing any of these objectives to Americans? If Congress knows about it and plans to wail and whine about it AFTER it happens, they are just as guilty as the rest with an intent to dilute America into mush.:finger:

Never underestimate the stupidity of self-absorbed congressmen who won't deal with anything unless it is of immediate importance to them. :coffee3:
 
Mr.Conley said:

I was hoping so. I couldn't really believe what I was reading.

But just to look at what you said, do you think that's where we're headed... say in 50 years or so?
 
Not total political integration, but economic integration and probably closer collaboration between our militaries. I don't just mean between us, Canada, and Mexico either. We'll cherrypick the best states in Central America for the union as well. I think it'll be a good thing. Having more people, more land, and more resources on hand will expand the North American economy and make us more competitive against China and India.
 
Mr.Conley said:
Not total political integration, but economic integration and probably closer collaboration between our militaries. I don't just mean between us, Canada, and Mexico either. We'll cherrypick the best states in Central America for the union as well. I think it'll be a good thing. Having more people, more land, and more resources on hand will expand the North American economy and make us more competitive against China and India.

Of course libs think it's a good idea. They hate the freedom oriented aspect of american culture. Diluting our society with(or shackling americans too) people who know nothing of our institutions of freedom and who can be easier whipped into communist revolution is right up their ally. What we should do is kick totalitarians out of our trade sphere, instead of feeling we must compete with their inhumanity.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Of course libs think it's a good idea. They hate the freedom oriented aspect of american culture. Diluting our society with(or shackling americans too) people who know nothing of our institutions of freedom and who can be easier whipped into communist revolution is right up their ally. What we should do is kick totalitarians out of our trade sphere, instead of feeling we must compete with their inhumanity.
Read it before you respond.
 

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