Despising the New Deal & hating FDR while your immediate family benefited...

It is a point I would make.


btw, Not every program is supposed to benefit e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e. that kind of thinking would be silly.

But should the government be in the business of creating programs that help a small minority to the detriment of everyone else? I'm sorry, but I find destroying perfectly good food and slaughtering animals for no reason while the people suffer to be silly.

your premise: to the detriment. bad

if crops were subject to supply and demand an farmers went out of business and the farm economy collapsed. more people would be hurt for longer. and the US would lose big r=time.

the fact that people go without and the destroyed crops could be used (oh wait they are in some cases -- government surplus food... my bad, and yours). ...............

you are mixing issues. the national government has a duty to protect the union.

Your notion that the national government has no duty here is wrongheaded. The federal government's responsibility is to keeping the union from being dissolved by 'angry vindictive persons.'. -Jefferson's buddy Justice Johnson

So the farm economy would have collapsed, because as prices went down and their products became more affordable people wouldn't have bought them?

Destroyed crops could be used? Keyword being destroyed.

No, the federal government has a duty to protect liberty.
 
Despising the New Deal & hating FDR while your immediate family benefited...


What does one make of people who despise the policies of the New Deal & hate FDR while their immediate family benefited from either or both?

The disconnect suggest being an ingrate or worse, but is it more complicated? Is the disconnect caused by the phenomena of people going with a group identity over self interest? Does belonging to a group override common sense and factual data? Does the need to belong distort principles and the ability to absorb information and data that threatens group thinking?

And why is this relevant?
What this dreck amounts to is basically saying that the Confederate slaves had it good, because they were given a bare minimum of food, shelter, clothing and medical care, in return for their lifetime of "service" to the plantationers.

The bloody ingrates. :rolleyes:
 
I don't live in the Tennessee Valley why and I STILL Paying for the Tennessee Valley Authority?

Does the New Deal ever realize its 2010?
 
I don't live in the Tennessee Valley why and I STILL Paying for the Tennessee Valley Authority?

Does the New Deal ever realize its 2010?

I DO live in TN and use the TVA's electricity and still think the idea sucks. Does that make me a hypocrite because I won't turn off my lights and live in the dark?
I don't think so.

But the Left regularly likes to paint conservatives as hypocrites. This is because the truth is that the Left are the biggest hypocrites to walk the planet. There is not one issue that they are not hypocritical on.
 
No, they got worthless script that wasn't redeemable on demand for lawful specie.

Speaking of re-writing history.

Then they did soemthing to get taken for a ride.

They were allowed to keep 100.00 worth and could have gotten cash for the gold.

The next year the gold they held would have been worth 35.00.

They traded it in to a shister
 
My immediate family didn't benefit from the "Raw Deal", they lived on farms and didn't do any of the public works jobs or anything but it was a sign of the times, government creates programs, people are basically forced to go on these programs and anyone who bitches about it is a hypocrite.
farm families were not helped by the general policies of FDR or by the New Deal specifically? I wonder what state your family lived in.

So benefiting from a program and bitching about it is not hypocrisy?

Name the program your family or someone you know was forced -- forced to enroll in.

Social Security and later on, Medicare.

We play the hand we are dealt in society, I think a ton of government policies are a waste but I gotta deal with them the best I can if I choose to reside here in the "Land of the Free"(which is an outdated phrase)

My Family lives in Louisiana, it doesn't take a government to raise a garden to eat from, a chicken to lay an egg or a cow to milk.


Perhaps America wasn't helped at all, they just think they were and are, the dollar's value has eroded 98% since the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, that in and by itself did nothing to help the common man.
 
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I'm not quite sure why you have to give 100% support to something simply because you (or stranger still, some relative several generations back) benefited from it.

I would benefit greatly if Obama took $10,000 from every other household in my neighborhood and deposited it into my checking account - but it doesn't mean that I have to think it is a good idea.

Just because something helps people in the immediate future doesn't mean its a good idea if its going to cause immeasurable harm in the more distant future. And it certainly doesn't mean that people in that distant future have to stand around saying "Gee, it sucks balls that our nation is crumbling and completely bankrupt...but gosh wasn't it nice that great-grandpa was able to see a doctor 'for free'"
 
they could have gotten dollars you fool , you know American money
You don't even understand how the monetary system, then or now, works.

Just quit while you're behind.

Pretending I dont understand is silly.

The program for buyback included getting $20.67 for every troy ounce.

They could have recieved it in cash.

How the fuck much did they own?
 
they could have gotten dollars you fool , you know American money
You don't even understand how the monetary system, then or now, works.

Just quit while you're behind.

Pretending I dont understand is silly.

The program for buyback included getting $20.67 for every troy ounce.

They could have recieved it in cash.

How the fuck much did they own?
I don't have to pretend anything.

You saying that they got worthless fiat script for their gold coin (which is where we get the term "cold cash") as "cash", tells anyone and everyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the monetary system that you have NFI what you're talking about.

But please, carry on...I have a kind of sick fascination with watching dumb dogs, who don't know where the end of their rope is, continue to try and chase passing cars.
 
The Roosevelt Gold Confiscation Order Of April 3 1933.


Section 4. Upon receipt of gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates delivered to it in accordance with Section 2 or 3, the Federal reserve bank or member bank will pay thereof an equivalent amount of any other form of coin or currency coined or issued under the laws of the Unites States.


I think you dont know what you are talking about and compounding it with lies
 
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