Deportation Raids Reportedly Ongoing Across U.S.

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    I'll put you down in the "Don't know what the fuck he's talking about" category.
     
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    You failed to differentiate between illegal and legal aliens. They do NOT have equal rights.

    Get over it.
     
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    If you're addressing me, I'm a pure bred gringo with freckles and once red hair.
     
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    According to Federal Immigration laws, Congress has the control over immigration policy, while the president has been given the ultimate authority regarding the number refugees allowed entry. Our Immigration policy has always favored family sponsored immigrants as well as an employment based preference within a predetermined immigration cap, most likely because there is someone who can speak for the character of the individual seeking citizenship. This is specifically important surrounding those events of 9-11 which permanently changed the face of our immigration policy as a whole, where a specific extreme religious ideology has personally identified themselves as the selected "group" responsible for the attacks. The United States didn't make that determination of any religious group or ideology, it was identified for us by those SPECIFICALLY involved in terrorist acts. This is why, liberals can't site the excuse of religious discrimination, as the United States is making efforts to identify such militants that saught responsibility for their extreme religious cause they have identified specific allegiance to. Our government has to be allowed to do their job, as it's their Constitutional duty to protect and defend the citizens of the United States FIRST.

    Yes, I do see and agree this is a long process. I also know of someone who is here with his parents and has to wait a few years for his wife to be allowed entry with her pathway to citizenship. However, we must not discredit their efforts because we see a "voting block" we want to reach for our own political gain and power. Yet that is what the democrats see in their proposed fast track process, they DON'T CARE about those immigrants who have to spend years (coming overseas) and seeking the same opportunity while respecting our Federal immigration laws.

    Note I said Federal, as the individual states have not been given any constitutional authority to determine their own rules of how to deal with illegal immigration. There is also no prior constitutional backed law, through the Supreme Court, that grants the states authority in determining their own path to handle illegal immigration outside of the Federal Government's Constitutional authority.
     
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    My response was in regard to efforts by democrats to provide a fast track to citizenship, while neglecting the hard long efforts of OTHER immigrants from overseas who seek the same opportunities and privileges of citizenship. We have ONE legal means to gain citizenship through the Federal government, established by Congress, and enforced strictly by the Federal Government through government agencies such as ICE. All immigrants are entitled to the same process and path to become citizens WITHOUT exception, and without favoritism based on their circumstances of parents or individuals who have broken the law to gain access here.

    Do try to follow along with the discussion.
     
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    Women now comprise a larger proportion
    of the prison population than ever before;
    the female prison population stands nearly eight times higher
    than its population count in 1980.
    More than 60% of women in state prisons
    have a child under the age of 18.
    Between 1980 and 2014, the number of incarcerated women
    increased by more than 700%, rising from a total of
    26,378 in 1980 to 215,332 in 2014.

    Incarcerated Women and Girls- The Sentencing Project

    Choices have consequences!

    There are plenty of children whose parent is locked up.
    There are plenty of families ripped apart because of criminal actions.

    Parents will send their children out with strangers
    to make it here...and never do or are abused along the way.

    There are mother's and father's
    who leave their families to come here.

    Parents risk their lives and that of their children
    just trying to make it across the border.

    How many innocent families endure hardship
    because of identity theft by an illegal immigrant?

    When you break the law, you take a risk of being caught.
    Just because you don't like the law, doesn't change anything!
     
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    I must disagree with half of this. I agree that congressional federal legislation governs US immigration, and the president has the power over its execution including its numbers. But the facts contradict the rest.

    US immigration services are corrupt. Records show, that during democrat presidents, such as Obama, this corruption is a lot less than during republican presidents.

    For example, a simple Internet search reveals, that president W Bush tripled the immigrant visa application fees, but many immigration centers kept posting on their websites that they don't proceed with adjudicating submitted applications due to lack of funding.

    So, if Americans were able to differentiate between legal things and illegal things, then the first question about immigration should be why a person should pay serious money for an application fee, only to see that the government does absolutely nothing but cashing is cheque?

    Like a racket, the government then forces half of the immigrants to pay even more fees if they still want any official to look at their applications, because the immigrants incur immigration court fees when they end up suing the government with a writ mandamus to get an immigration court adjudicate their applications instead of the immigration service.

    That is how republican administrations kill off legal immigration. Basically republicans turn immigration into a racket as researched and explained above.

    After this, why are immigration laws important and why are illegal immigrants important? Doesn't at least the government need to develop some commitment to deliver its own contractual obligations, before it judges others? The facts indicate then, that congress and republican presidents including the entire immigration service have no interest in identifying militants and protecting American citizens, their interest is to use these buzzwords to pay themselves more executive bonuses.
     
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