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Democrats have been patting themselves on the back lately that they have figured out how to better communicate with Red State America. You wouldn't have known it on Friday and Saturday, when congressional minority leaders, Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi refused to adapt the party's weekly radio address to the breaking news that Pope John Paul II was on his death bed.
"We had a plan in place for a national radio address that would have highlighted the Pope's stand on social justice and equality for all," says a Democratic National Committee staffer. "They wouldn't do it. They said it would look like pandering, that it wasn't helpful to their agenda."
Instead the Dems went with an odd radio address by former Democratic Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, in which he attacked Republicans for mulling use of a parliamentary rule that would allow the majority party to get judicial nominees approved by a mere majority of the Senate, instead of the 60 votes now required.
Mitchell, who in his days in the Senate was well known for stretching the truth to gain any little political gain, showed that retirement -- and his time in Hollywood -- had done little to dull his talents for prevarication. He claimed the Republicans were seeking to deny Senators a "voice" in the selection of judges, despite the fact that Democrats were blocking judges from getting a full hearing by the full Senate, as well as final up and down vote.
President Bush devoted his weekly radio address to praising the John Paul II, recalling the Pope's heroic charge for freedom and devotion to the culture of life.
Democrats around the country were said to be angry that Reid and Pelosi wasted an opportunity to show the party's faithful side to a nation that clearly would spend the weekend focused on the death of the Pope, and not judges.
Her Catholicism notwithstanding, Pelosi was especially adamant about pressing ahead with the political agenda, according to a House leadership staffer. "This wasn't counter-intuitive," says the staffer. "This was just being stupid and stubborn. It's another example of where we are going wrong as a party."
She's about as Catholic as Kennedy is :blah2:ScreamingEagle said:Pelosi a Catholic? Yeah, riiight. Jack-Catholic is the term for her, if even that.
Bonnie said:Washington Prowler
Democrats Without a Prayer
BR-549 said:why pray when they don't believe in God, Jesus, or much of anything religious..? I honestly cannot understand why ANYONE who is a religious person would vote or be a democrat...
NATO AIR said:You gotta wonder who the hell behind the scenes in Democratic Party politics is in charge.
Open that can of worms an dump em out did ya? You're not suggestion that the Republican Party is the party of Religion are you?BR-549 said:why pray when they don't believe in God, Jesus, or much of anything religious..? I honestly cannot understand why ANYONE who is a religious person would vote or be a democrat...
BR-549 said:why pray when they don't believe in God, Jesus, or much of anything religious..? I honestly cannot understand why ANYONE who is a religious person would vote or be a democrat...
anyone who believes in God is an idiot.. Open the can I will. I know many former Dems who have left the party FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS..... The dems being pro-abortion, pro gay marriage, and against any form of religion being brought into politics (as if a person can somehow split themselves apart and separate their religious beliefs from their political ones) have left little recourse to the believer.. Vote Dem and vote against your religious beliefs...... Look at how the left is trying to picture even the death of John Paul II..."Well his conservative positions were in opposition to what many Catholic Americans think"... As if popular opinion were to be dominant over religious doctrine.... This kind of thinking is a scourge and must be expunged...Mr. P said:Open that can of worms an dump em out did ya? You're not suggestion that the Republican Party is the party of Religion are you?
BR-549 said:anyone who believes in God is an idiot.. Open the can I will. I know many former Dems who have left the party FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS..... The dems being pro-abortion, pro gay marriage, and against any form of religion being brought into politics (as if a person can somehow split themselves apart and separate their religious beliefs from their political ones) have left little recourse to the believer.. Vote Dem and vote against your religious beliefs...... Look at how the left is trying to picture even the death of John Paul II..."Well his conservative positions were in opposition to what many Catholic Americans think"... As if popular opinion were to be dominant over religious doctrine.... This kind of thinking is a scourge and must be expunged...
wolverine said:"We had a plan in place for a national radio address that would have highlighted the Pope's stand on social justice and equality for all," says a Democratic National Committee staffer. "They wouldn't do it. They said it would look like pandering, that it wasn't helpful to their agenda."
WOW! The dems know we know when they're pandering.
Huh?..is that what you meant to say?BR-549 said:anyone who believes in God is an idiot..
Mr. P said:Huh?..is that what you meant to say?
ReillyT said:Most democrats would not say that they are against bringing religion into politics. They would say they are against bringing religion into the mechanisms of government. That is a big difference.
The conservative positions advocated by Pope John Paul II are in opposition to what many Americans think (contraception anyone?). What is wrong in pointing that out as we discuss his legacy and who should succeed him in the Church?
Popular opinion isn't dominant over religious doctrine and it isn't secondary to it. They exist on two planes that often relate and are connected.
Bonnie said:Reilly you walk a fine line when you suggest it's okay to bring religion into politics but not the mechanics of government, the two are forever intertwined and any truely religious person will base their decisions on moral principals and ethics.
Im sure there are some very religious and moral democrats in everday life, the problem is Democrats in leadership positions who are not and can't decide if they hate religious people or just the ideas they stand for.
Polls or popular opinion do not make up religious doctrine nor should it ever. The Catholic church is a monolith in that it's supposed to follow the teachings of Christ whether they are popular or not. The church is not supposed to change it's teachings to appease a decrease in morality of the masses. For the record the church does support natural family planning and if done right is, if not more effective than artificial contraception, and no it's not the rythm method. I find it interesting how people want the church to tell them it's okay to do this and that when they are doing it anyway and don't seem to think anything of it. If a person really thinks they are right about something then why do they need others to tell them they are??? Makes no sense. So if the next pope comes out and says murder for insurance gains is okay... then what? He's only telling people what they may want to hear, doesn't change the fact that it's still wrong.
