Dems Trying to Abort Gabbart's Prez Run.. I'm Getting Ready to Endorse Her.

Largely because Gabbart was RIGHT about "micro-controlling" the Dem 2016 primary to tip it to Hillary..
Bernie never had a chance of winning the nomination. And that's coming from someone who wishes he had won it.

Nobody has a chance at a Dem coronation when superdelegates each have the power of 70,000 "regular voters". The media treats the elections a horse race. Not an issues debate. So all they report and HOW they report is based on "support" and delegates.

In the DNC -- you have to have collected the most "battle ribbons" to deserve to be coronated. That's why it was "Hillary's turn".. And anyone that has DISSED the party in any way or doesn't please the "superdelegates" has ZERO chance. Bernie ran because principle. Not to win..

Now if they hunt down and string up Gabbard, a fighting person with a lot of skills and convictions, SHE just might shoot them the middle finger again and run as an Independent. That's the kind of move that will actually SAVE America from the scourge of this destructive 2 party stand-off...
 
Don't look now Dems, but you have a "dissenter" in the ranks that MUST be muzzled and chained. And even WORSE -- she MIGHT be a "closet Libertarian"... :biggrin:
You obviously have not looked at her web site.

She's as socialist as they come. Like Bernie Sanders, the elder dissenter. In fact, she endorsed him for President.

She's the exact opposite of a Libertarian.

It's hard to find such a thing as "the opposite of Libertarian".. Because you'd have to reach down into the nether realm of leftist and rightest authoritarians to pluck one out.. We actually agree TOTALLY with folks like Bernie on at least 1/2 of their issues.. Mostly agree on Foreign policy. Mostly agree on stopping corporate/govt collusion. Mostly agree on "criminal justice reform" and Civil Liberties. The latter one is way different and more encompassing than just "rights".. And only libertarians and some of "old school socialists" understand the diff.

But the half is anything to do with math or economics or size of Federal Govt. And there we split ways. And the fact that the "old school" socialists are adopting and raising a whole bushel basket of your wild child progressive know-nothings that you just sent to Congress --- disturbs us greatly.

Gabbard is not in that fruit and nut basket. She's risen in the Armed Forces to a Major, speaks for herself and defends herself well in debate and with the public.. And lately, what I want in politics is "the best of breed".. The type that sticks to problem solving and "straight talk".. Don't really care where the country finds these solid specimens of independent politics, but it's independents that are the only way OUT of this downward spiral in leadership...

"downward spiral in leadership"? This country is in the best shape it's been in since the 80's....almost full employment, energy self-sufficient, companies returning from overseas and repatriating funds we couldn't tax before. Islamic terrorism mostly defeated, our military rebuilt, trade deals reworked and our relationship with China revamped. I have no idea why your ilk can't leave well enough alone and enjoy our newfound prosperity and peace. Without 90% negative news coverage and an FBI/DOJ plot to destroy him, Trump would be the most wildly popular president in history. Yet you're searching for some socialist Hawaiian who's actually dumb enough to tell us what she really believes, dooming herself to failure....Americans aren't socialists and Americans don't hate themselves....just stay on the leftist side of the fence instead of pretending you can pick and choose from one or the other....there's reasons "independents" aren't respected...they can't make up their minds and thus get no claim to leadership.

And yet, you back a guy who had a CHANCE to reform the PATRIOT act and add a couple safeguards to this Big Brother Domestic spy machine that was turned AGAINST HIM as a political weapon --- and he "wimped out"..

Tweeted at 6AM how he wasn't in favor of renewal without serious modifications.. By 1PM -- he had totally backtracked and pledged to sign it WITHOUT added safeguards... Some people got to him.. We have a govt that can compromise most of the elected representatives now. They ALL love them some Big Brother spying on everything domestic.. What does that tell you about the TRUE state of our nation???
 
I'll say it again.. Finding REAL INDEPENDENTS is the only way for America to recover from this full acceleration into leadership and govt dysfunction...

Agreed, which is why the '$$$ party cloaked in the guise of Dem&Rep's" spend so much time demonizing them...

This country is in the best shape it's been in since the 80's

Absolute kool aid ...

Being fed small statistical upticks as 'winning' is a joke juxtaposed to our history, in fairness what metric one subscribes to is relevant
Standard of living in the United States - Wikipedia

Fact is, the current generation entering the workforce is the first in recent history to live a lesser lifestyle than the former.


Bernie ran because principle. Not to win..

Thx for that, so many miss it....

~S~
 
And yet, you back a guy who had a CHANCE to reform the PATRIOT act and add a couple safeguards to this Big Brother Domestic spy machine that was turned AGAINST HIM as a political weapon --- and he "wimped out"..

Tweeted at 6AM how he wasn't in favor of renewal without serious modifications.. By 1PM -- he had totally backtracked and pledged to sign it WITHOUT added safeguards... Some people got to him.. We have a govt that can compromise most of the elected representatives now. They ALL love them some Big Brother spying on everything domestic.. What does that tell you about the TRUE state of our nation???

What does the Patriot Act tell me about the "true state" of the nation? Nothing. The FBI/DOJ plot against Trump had nothing to do with the Patriot Act. And I doubt he "wimped out" on renewing it since little if anything written about him is true.
 
I accept your surrender, Tulsi

Tulsi Gabbard apologizes for past anti-LGBT rhetoric

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Don't look now Dems, but you have a "dissenter" in the ranks that MUST be muzzled and chained. And even WORSE -- she MIGHT be a "closet Libertarian"... :biggrin: Even if she is NOT -- she's definitely "standing out" as an INDEPENDENT voice in the party.. And the first actually smart candidate to declare..

Sure -- the Party chiefs are mad about her not wanting to add Assad to the list of mid-east bastard tyrants that we have disposed. Called her an Assad puppet, not because she SUPPORTS him, but because she knows the insanity of removing tyrants in the Mid East.

But the MAJOR reason she needs to be whacked is that she publicly spoke out about Sgt Debbie Whatzhername Schultz and her antics that tipped the DNC support against Uncle Bernie. And Tulsi Gabbart had the honor of RESIGNING from the DNC... A move NO FUTURE party Dem nominee ought to make..

Don't care if this interview was on Fox. Greenwald is the last of REAL journalism in this world. And has my total respect. WATCH the 3.4 minutes for a list of how Gabbart "offended" her own party...



I Lester to the lady when she speaks. Hell, even Cortez says shit that makes sense some times. Really, both parties need a serious culling of the ranks. Wish young republicans would pop up in the same manner as Democrats.
 
i yield the floor to Rep Gabbard...

"In my past, I said and believed things that were wrong, and worse, hurtful to people in the LGBTQ+ community and their loved ones.

Many years ago, I apologized for my words and, more importantly, for the negative impact that they had. I sincerely repeat my apology today. I’m deeply sorry. My views have changed since then, and my record in Congress over the last 6 years reflects what is in my heart: A strong and ongoing commitment to fighting for LGBTQ+ rights.

I know that LGBTQ+ people are still facing discrimination, are still facing abuse and still fear that their hard-won rights are going to be taken away by people who hold views like I used to. That cannot happen, because every single American deserves to be treated equally.

I have always believed in the fundamental rights and equality of all people. But I also grew up in a socially conservative household, where I was raised to believe that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. For a period of my life I didn’t see the contradiction in those beliefs.

While many Americans may be able to relate to growing up in a conservative home, my story is different because my father was very outspoken. He was an activist who was fighting against gay rights and marriage equality in Hawaii – and at that time, I forcefully defended him. But over the years, I formed my own opinions based on my life experience that changed my views -- at a personal level in having aloha, love, for all people, and ensuring that every American, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, is treated equally under the law.

I look forward to being able to share more of my story and experiences growing up – not as an excuse – but in the hopes that it may inspire others to truly live aloha; to love and care for others.

I’m so grateful to my friends and loved ones, both gay and straight, who helped me see how my past positions on these issues were at odds with my values, my aloha, and that they were causing people harm. I regret the role I played in causing such pain, and I remain committed to fighting for LGBTQ+ equality."
 
And yet, you back a guy who had a CHANCE to reform the PATRIOT act and add a couple safeguards to this Big Brother Domestic spy machine that was turned AGAINST HIM as a political weapon --- and he "wimped out"..

Tweeted at 6AM how he wasn't in favor of renewal without serious modifications.. By 1PM -- he had totally backtracked and pledged to sign it WITHOUT added safeguards... Some people got to him.. We have a govt that can compromise most of the elected representatives now. They ALL love them some Big Brother spying on everything domestic.. What does that tell you about the TRUE state of our nation???

What does the Patriot Act tell me about the "true state" of the nation? Nothing. The FBI/DOJ plot against Trump had nothing to do with the Patriot Act. And I doubt he "wimped out" on renewing it since little if anything written about him is true.

THen you simply have NOT been following along. What do you think a FISA warrant does? It gives you access to that mighty Big Brother "702 system" that WE WERE TOLD -- only existed to track down Jihadi terrorists on America soil.. It got TURNED into a political weapon to spy on the Trump Campaign.. Giving them NOT just access to "wiretap" and "intercepts" but to the ENTIRE NETWORK of associates in the campaign and ALL of their RECORDED electronic transactions going back YEARS. They are all now stored/archived on Big Brother.

Trump was INDEED a victim of the Patriot Act which AUTHORIZED that Domestic Spy program. And if you do not know this -- you probably don't give a crap about Civil Liberties or your freedom.

If that system can be abused for POLITICAL reasons, it can also be abused for FINANCIAL or BLACKMAIL reasons. And it will..
 

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