Dems, please stop this stupid and dishonest talking point now.

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    Bob Beckel, trying to defend the "personal mandate" part of the health scare bill -- comparing the requirement to either get "approved" health insurance from a private firm, get on the government's insurance or be fined up to 15% of your income -- to the requirement by law to get auto insurance?

    First off, auto insurance isn't required if you don't own a car or don't fucking drive. So, there's no comparison. But let's take this stupid shit anyway and run with it, I'll fix this little dishonest talking point for you.

    What would you all think if the government got into the auto insurance business, offering "competition" for us against those evil insurance companies. BUT, in order to make it fair, EVERYONE has to have an auto insurance policy whether you actually own a car, or drive, or not. Otherwise you get a fine every year that is 15% of your income.

    NOW the comparison is valid. And I'm sorry to inform you, that "fine" is a fucking TAX no matter how you try to mealy-mouth your way around it. The plan is to have the IRS collect this fine, every year on your TAXES if you don't comply with the government mandated health insurance program. It's a TAX. A Health Care TAX.

    You'll have to show "proof of health insurance" to avoid the fine.

    Another reason the comparison isn't valid, we actually have little to no choice if we get sick or get seriously injured. It's fate. So now, in order to guard against fate, we will be required to carry health insurance whether we ever need it or use it or not.

    How about a rebate then, for those who never have to use their health care insurance? The idea is, the uninsured are a burden on the system. Okay then, for ones who are not, they are penalized for good health and well-being, and for avoiding injury? Penalized, for that? For not being a burden?

    This is yet another reason this idiotic health scare shit is bad, too intrusive, and wasteful. Young adults, are you really ready to be required by law to buy something most of you don't need and will never use, or be penalized? Or, if you have or get health insurance, will you be out there unnecessarily using it in order to get your money's worth?

    Because there will be NO rebate if you don't ever use the shit, so you might as well just frivolously use it, correct? FLOODING the health care system with extra check-ups, meds you don't need, and such?

    C'mon now.... This is just more half-baked, ill-conceived shit out of Washington.
     
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    Dems will stop using this talking point when it becomes ineffective. Otherwise the truth of it is the least important thing to them.
     
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    It's only "effective" on dumbasses, or those who willingly eschew their intellect in order to enjoy being in the cult.
     
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    OP: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
     
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    I heard about the fine. but car insurance??? WTF ????
     
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    That's the latest bullshit talking they're floating out there. Proving once again their disdain for and how stupid they think the American public is. It's an insult, an affront.
     
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    This is NOT a valid comparison. While some people do not drive, everyone needs healthcare at some point in their lives, and if they CHOOSE not to have insurance, then I pay for them.
     
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    I see you failed to read the entire post, or failed to comprehend it. Try again.

    BECKEL'S comparison is NOT valid. The only way to MAKE it valid is if auto insurance was required for ALL whether they actually own a car, drive or not. Those are CHOICES.

    Paying a TAX because you don't want something you might never use is stupid. Making people get health insurance, without a REBATE for not using it annually, is simply theft.
     
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    the language of the bill is so vague and open to distortion, the fact that you(if you) really did translate it correctly is impressive.
     
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