Dems must be expelled from office ASAP

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama's SecTres Geithner told the BBC that "US can 'no longer drive global growth" and yesterday Biden said "there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession."

This is a fundamentally un-American Administration and Democrat Party.

They must be expelled from power because they are now blatantly and publicly working against the interest of the American people.

BBC News - Geithner says US can 'no longer drive global growth'

Biden: We Can't Recover All the Jobs Lost - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Yea Frank... bring back Boooooooooooooooooooooooosh!

Did you think about the chart before you posted it?

Boooooooooooooooosh stole the election in 2000 and was selected to start in 2001.

Your chart start from 2007, the exact same time Pelosi and Dems took control of Congress!

Your chart proves that Democrats hate the US economy and the feeling is mutual

 

[Woyzeck]

Obama wants to hurt the USA because he's trying to make things worse, I don't know how many more times I can say it. He is NOT trying to make things better. Even Clinton talked about a robust and vibrant US economy. The only other Liberal loser that talked in these terms was Jimmy Carter

I've been around for a while and so far, every recession has been labeled "the worst since the Great Depression" and the hysterics wear off quickly.

Frank, just saying he is doesn't mean he actually is, especially when its contrary to their own benefit for them to do as you claim. Biden said we weren't going to get all the jobs back, but pointed out they created half a million jobs were created in the private sector within the past five months. The article also pointed out unemployment claims were dropping. They want the country to fail because the headline is "well, we're not gonna recover to what we had" and you ignore the rest in which they indicate there's been some recovery?

That's just silly, right there.

Wow. That's so terrific and it only cost $850Billion! What a deal!

It's just coincidence that everyone in the Obama Admin and their Pravda is talking down the US economy! It happens like that -- it's called a coinkydink.

They want the country to fail for the same reason FDR did: Progressives like FDR, Hitler and Obama thrive on economic misery, it lets them get away with anything!

But if the country fails, they can't do anything. If the entire country goes, what can they do? Watch as they get thrown out of office by an angry mob? It doesn't make any sense. Look at Ford and Carter, both had a poor economy to contend with and were voted out of office. Even later on, Bush Senior would have a recession contribute to his own political defeat. These presidents ended up having a single-term. Causing further harm to the economy is a self-defeating and quite frankly illogical motive for anyone.

Nice Godwin of your own thread, by the way. If Hitler was progressive, my left nut is the king of England.

 

[Old Rocks]

Talking sense to Frank is the same as talking to a drunk adolescent. Not only is he incapable of understanding what you are saying, he will not remember tomorrow what he said himself, let alone what you said.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, just saying he is doesn't mean he actually is, especially when its contrary to their own benefit for them to do as you claim. Biden said we weren't going to get all the jobs back, but pointed out they created half a million jobs were created in the private sector within the past five months. The article also pointed out unemployment claims were dropping. They want the country to fail because the headline is "well, we're not gonna recover to what we had" and you ignore the rest in which they indicate there's been some recovery?

That's just silly, right there.

Wow. That's so terrific and it only cost $850Billion! What a deal!

It's just coincidence that everyone in the Obama Admin and their Pravda is talking down the US economy! It happens like that -- it's called a coinkydink.

They want the country to fail for the same reason FDR did: Progressives like FDR, Hitler and Obama thrive on economic misery, it lets them get away with anything!

But if the country fails, they can't do anything. If the entire country goes, what can they do? Watch as they get thrown out of office by an angry mob? It doesn't make any sense. Look at Ford and Carter, both had a poor economy to contend with and were voted out of office. Even later on, Bush Senior would have a recession contribute to his own political defeat. These presidents ended up having a single-term. Causing further harm to the economy is a self-defeating and quite frankly illogical motive for anyone.

Nice Godwin of your own thread, by the way. If Hitler was progressive, my left nut is the king of England.

Look at the damage they've already inflicted: Health Care, auto and banking. Now they going to go for Cap and Trade and Amnesty. What's left?

They wanted to follow FDR's Progressive footprints and have 12+ years of Progressive misery and 17% average unemployment, but the difference is that the Progressives no longer have monopoly power over the media.

Hitler was Left Winger, just deal with it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Talking sense to Frank is the same as talking to a drunk adolescent. Not only is he incapable of understanding what you are saying, he will not remember tomorrow what he said himself, let alone what you said.

You know you're a joke, right?

Your Atmospheric Homeopathic Theory has been busted from within, discredited, shamed, damaged, credibility totally shot, and you carry on as if nothings happened. Pay no attention to the man hugging his tree rings behind the curtain!

And yet to this day, you cannot even posit your Atmospheric Homeopathic Theory (deminimus changes in CO2 causes measurable changes in temperature) much less point to one single experiment that backs you up. You give me ridiculous scenarios where the they add 200,000PPM of CO2 and pass it off like it was 200PPM. Absurd. Laughable. And clearly not science.

Silly Man.

Posit your theory and back it up with a single experiment. Show me you understand the difference between an additional 200PPM and 200,000 or 600,000PPM.

 

[Woyzeck]

Wow. That's so terrific and it only cost $850Billion! What a deal!

It's just coincidence that everyone in the Obama Admin and their Pravda is talking down the US economy! It happens like that -- it's called a coinkydink.

They want the country to fail for the same reason FDR did: Progressives like FDR, Hitler and Obama thrive on economic misery, it lets them get away with anything!

But if the country fails, they can't do anything. If the entire country goes, what can they do? Watch as they get thrown out of office by an angry mob? It doesn't make any sense. Look at Ford and Carter, both had a poor economy to contend with and were voted out of office. Even later on, Bush Senior would have a recession contribute to his own political defeat. These presidents ended up having a single-term. Causing further harm to the economy is a self-defeating and quite frankly illogical motive for anyone.

Nice Godwin of your own thread, by the way. If Hitler was progressive, my left nut is the king of England.

Look at the damage they've already inflicted: Health Care, auto and banking. Now they going to go for Cap and Trade and Amnesty. What's left?

They wanted to follow FDR's Progressive footprints and have 12+ years of Progressive misery and 17% average unemployment, but the difference is that the Progressives no longer have monopoly power over the media.

Hitler was Left Winger, just deal with it.

Yes, an attempt at giving decent health care to all citizens counts as destroying the country. We ended up with health insurance instead, the same way Nixon tried to destroy the country forty years ago with, but luckily Ted Kennedy wanted nothing to do with it, no sir! Attempting to reform the finance industry and bailing out failing auto companies in an effort to stop the crashing economy is destroying the country. They desire amnesty for illegals, well hell that's never been done before. Under Reagan's administration. And my god how the country was utterly destroyed! Those evil bastards!

You have odd ideas of what's destroying the country, when it all can just as easily be construed that they are doing they're best to do what they think is right for the good of the country.

Ah, you mean the Hitler that said:

Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction.

and

The best state constitution and state form is that which, with the most unquestioned certainty, raises the best minds in the national community to leading position and leading influence. But as in economic life, the able men cannot be appointed from above, but must struggle through for themselves…

and

By rejecting the authority of the individual and replacing it by the numbers of some momentary mob, the parliamentary principle of majority rule sins against the basic aristocratic principle of Nature…

and

The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism…

and

The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extinction.

Wow. What a god damned liberal he is, to hold all those typical liberal positions!

As they say in the vernacular, just deal with it.

 

[tnttnt]

I keep going back and forth on this: at what point is it enough?

The State has taken over the auto industry, health care and the banks and finance companies and now they are actively and overtly talking DOWN the US economy.

I've never seen this in my life. Well, wait, the only other time was when that unAmerican Democrat loser Jimmy Carter talked about "Malaise"

In your internal debate, it's going to be hard to come to a logical conclusion if you keep shouting incorrect data at yourself.

The "State" has not taken over the auto, health care or banking industry.

I agree that the top should set the tone, but on the other hand, if obama, biden et al were exceedingly optimistic, the RW talk machine would be labeling them 'liars!' and 'con artists.'

Not that they don't already, but why give them more ammo?

I think the right attitude is optimistic but realistic.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's a Trifecta!

ObamaCare, a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations is not "Government run HealthCare

Handing the US Auto Industry to the Unions is not government take over of the auto industry

And a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations (sound familiar?) not government taking over the banks and finance companies.

Anyone remember the Pay Czar?

 

[rikules]

Are we agreed that under Obama and the Dems the USA economy is stalling and his Administration is cheerleader for things to get worse?

yes!

absolutely!

and they hate GOD, too

and they REALLY hate CHRISTIANS! (but they love islam!)

and they want to take away our guns!
and all of our rights!

and they want to force us all to become gay!

and mexican!

and they want us to eat VEGETABLES!!!!!


the dastardly bastards.......

 

[tnttnt]

It's a Trifecta!

ObamaCare, a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations is not "Government run HealthCare

Handing the US Auto Industry to the Unions is not government take over of the auto industry

And a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations (sound familiar?) not government taking over the banks and finance companies.

Anyone remember the Pay Czar?

You can call the HC bill "to restrictive" or "overly verbose" or "to complicated" and that would be accurate.

But calling it 'the state' taking over health care - not so much.

Re: the auto industry, well, even if you were right that the govt. GAVE the car companies to the unions - which of course they didn't - that would still be different from your afore claimed 'state' take over of the auto industry.

Again, you can be mad at the bailouts, but they are in no way akin to a state take over.

And of course, likewise for wall street regulation. Whatever it might actually be, a take over it is not.

 

[Immanuel]

Yes, an attempt at giving decent health care to all citizens counts as destroying the country. We ended up with health insurance instead, the same way Nixon tried to destroy the country forty years ago with, but luckily Ted Kennedy wanted nothing to do with it, no sir! Attempting to reform the finance industry and bailing out failing auto companies in an effort to stop the crashing economy is destroying the country. They desire amnesty for illegals, well hell that's never been done before. Under Reagan's administration. And my god how the country was utterly destroyed! Those evil bastards!

Good post. Sorry, just wanted to comment on this particular paragraph and the post itself was long.

Health Care Reform was needed. I do not think that there are many Americans that do not agree with that. Unfortunately, we got something other than Reform. We got a step toward Federal Control of health care. I believe there is good intentions involved coming from those who gave us this bill. I do not believe they intend to destroy America. However, I believe that this bill will be a step in that direction.

The same thing with bailing out the auto industry and banking industry.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

These items you mention focus more power under the control of the Federal Government. I can not believe that that is a good thing.

Immie

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's a Trifecta!

ObamaCare, a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations is not "Government run HealthCare

Handing the US Auto Industry to the Unions is not government take over of the auto industry

And a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations (sound familiar?) not government taking over the banks and finance companies.

Anyone remember the Pay Czar?

You can call the HC bill "to restrictive" or "overly verbose" or "to complicated" and that would be accurate.

But calling it 'the state' taking over health care - not so much.

Re: the auto industry, well, even if you were right that the govt. GAVE the car companies to the unions - which of course they didn't - that would still be different from your afore claimed 'state' take over of the auto industry.

Again, you can be mad at the bailouts, but they are in no way akin to a state take over.

And of course, likewise for wall street regulation. Whatever it might actually be, a take over it is not.

Name one other civilization in the whole history of the world that had a 2,000 page law on health care.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's a Trifecta!

ObamaCare, a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations is not "Government run HealthCare

Handing the US Auto Industry to the Unions is not government take over of the auto industry

And a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations (sound familiar?) not government taking over the banks and finance companies.

Anyone remember the Pay Czar?

You can call the HC bill "to restrictive" or "overly verbose" or "to complicated" and that would be accurate.

But calling it 'the state' taking over health care - not so much.

Re: the auto industry, well, even if you were right that the govt. GAVE the car companies to the unions - which of course they didn't - that would still be different from your afore claimed 'state' take over of the auto industry.

Again, you can be mad at the bailouts, but they are in no way akin to a state take over.

And of course, likewise for wall street regulation. Whatever it might actually be, a take over it is not.

You're kidding, right?

2,000 page law covering every aspect of health care is not a takeover?

You have one last chance.

 

[tnttnt]

It's a Trifecta!

ObamaCare, a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations is not "Government run HealthCare

Handing the US Auto Industry to the Unions is not government take over of the auto industry

And a 2,000 page law with at least 10 times that to follow in regulations (sound familiar?) not government taking over the banks and finance companies.

Anyone remember the Pay Czar?

You can call the HC bill "to restrictive" or "overly verbose" or "to complicated" and that would be accurate.

But calling it 'the state' taking over health care - not so much.

Re: the auto industry, well, even if you were right that the govt. GAVE the car companies to the unions - which of course they didn't - that would still be different from your afore claimed 'state' take over of the auto industry.

Again, you can be mad at the bailouts, but they are in no way akin to a state take over.

And of course, likewise for wall street regulation. Whatever it might actually be, a take over it is not.

You're kidding, right?

2,000 page law covering every aspect of health care is not a takeover?

You have one last chance.

in the year 2020, whne you go to the doctor and have your eyes checked, who will your doctor work for? When you give him your co-pay, who will take the money? When you send in your insurance payment, who will cash the check?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You can call the HC bill "to restrictive" or "overly verbose" or "to complicated" and that would be accurate.

But calling it 'the state' taking over health care - not so much.

Re: the auto industry, well, even if you were right that the govt. GAVE the car companies to the unions - which of course they didn't - that would still be different from your afore claimed 'state' take over of the auto industry.

Again, you can be mad at the bailouts, but they are in no way akin to a state take over.

And of course, likewise for wall street regulation. Whatever it might actually be, a take over it is not.

You're kidding, right?

2,000 page law covering every aspect of health care is not a takeover?

You have one last chance.

in the year 2020, whne you go to the doctor and have your eyes checked, who will your doctor work for? When you give him your co-pay, who will take the money? When you send in your insurance payment, who will cash the check?

In 2020, the government will decide how many eye doctors there are, how many visits you're allowed and what they can charge.

Go see a doctor about your Obamaroids

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected that federal debt could reach 87 percent of America’s gross domestic production by 2020, and surpass 100 percent of GDP by 2025

And Obama says “the economy is headed in the right direction"

Yes, right off the cliff into Greece, CA and Third World banana republic land

 

[tnttnt]

You're kidding, right?

2,000 page law covering every aspect of health care is not a takeover?

You have one last chance.

in the year 2020, whne you go to the doctor and have your eyes checked, who will your doctor work for? When you give him your co-pay, who will take the money? When you send in your insurance payment, who will cash the check?

In 2020, the government will decide how many eye doctors there are, how many visits you're allowed and what they can charge.

Go see a doctor about your Obamaroids

Where in the 2,000 pages does it say the government will decide how many eye doctors there will be?

Where in the 2,000 pages does it limit your visits? Where does it set fees?

Honestly, the thing is way to complicate - made so, frankly, by the dems lack of a spine re: the public option and the republicans lack of a spine re: doing anything other than labeling things socialism.

But no where does it do the things you claim it does.

It is not a take over.

You didn't answer my question - when these laws are fully in effect, and you mail a check to your insurance company, who will cash it? when you give you doc a co-pay, who keeps the money?

 

[Avatar4321]

As much as I'd think we definitely need them out of office, ASAP. I dont see how the Republicans will be ready to govern with all the similiar problems and corruption they allow.