Democrats: You need to pass it to find out what's in it

For Obamacare in the Senate, the Senate REPUBLICANS passed 160 amendments to it.... nothing was hidden from them and the Republicans participated fully.

the same with the house Obamacare bill, everyone got to read it and contribute to it from both sides of the aisle, for 15 months of deliberations and amendments before they passed it.


FYI-
What Pelosi was speaking about passing before they got to read it, was the RECONCILIATION bill that merged the House bill with the Senate bill. The house members were able to read their own house bill and read the Senate's bill, just not the one that was for the two bills combined....before they ook their second vote on the reconciliation bill.
 
For Obamacare in the Senate, the Senate REPUBLICANS passed 160 amendments to it.... nothing was hidden from them and the Republicans participated fully.

the same with the house Obamacare bill, everyone got to read it and contribute to it from both sides of the aisle, for 15 months of deliberations and amendments before they passed it.


FYI-
What Pelosi was speaking about passing before they got to read it, was the RECONCILIATION bill that merged the House bill with the Senate bill. The house members were able to read their own house bill and read the Senate's bill, just not the one that was for the two bills combined....before they ook their second vote on the reconciliation bill.



It was extremely minor by the repubs...and you do know it took Union lawyers almost two years latter to figure out Obama screwed their caddy health care plans.
 
Bernie Sanders complaining that there will not be enough time to find out what is in the GOP healthcare bill. Well, if you just pass it, you'll find out what's in it. That is what you've splained to us in the past.

Democrats fume over 'secret' Republican healthcare bill
Interesting that you conservative rubes flip flopped on wanting to know what's in the bill... but it's almost certainly DOA so it doesn't matter.

For the sake of argument, let's say it's not DOA; do you want/need/demand the time to study it, or no?
 
FYI-
What Pelosi was speaking about passing before they got to read it, was the RECONCILIATION bill that merged the House bill with the Senate bill. The house members were able to read their own house bill and read the Senate's bill, just not the one that was for the two bills combined....before they ook their second vote on the reconciliation bill.

What the fuck does that matter? It's still blindly voting on a major piece of legislation.
 
For Obamacare in the Senate, the Senate REPUBLICANS passed 160 amendments to it.... nothing was hidden from them and the Republicans participated fully.

the same with the house Obamacare bill, everyone got to read it and contribute to it from both sides of the aisle, for 15 months of deliberations and amendments before they passed it.


FYI-
What Pelosi was speaking about passing before they got to read it, was the RECONCILIATION bill that merged the House bill with the Senate bill. The house members were able to read their own house bill and read the Senate's bill, just not the one that was for the two bills combined....before they ook their second vote on the reconciliation bill.



It was extremely minor by the repubs...and you do know it took Union lawyers almost two years latter to figure out Obama screwed their caddy health care plans.

Pubs have left that in, just delayed the implementation a few years.
 
Bernie Sanders complaining that there will not be enough time to find out what is in the GOP healthcare bill. Well, if you just pass it, you'll find out what's in it. That is what you've splained to us in the past.

Democrats fume over 'secret' Republican healthcare bill
Interesting that you conservative rubes flip flopped on wanting to know what's in the bill... but it's almost certainly DOA so it doesn't matter.

For the sake of argument, let's say it's not DOA; do you want/need/demand the time to study it, or no?

I don't care, but at least let the rest of the GOP senate see it, there is only 18 that have worked on it and seen it.
 
Bernie Sanders complaining that there will not be enough time to find out what is in the GOP healthcare bill. Well, if you just pass it, you'll find out what's in it. That is what you've splained to us in the past.

Democrats fume over 'secret' Republican healthcare bill
Interesting that you conservative rubes flip flopped on wanting to know what's in the bill... but it's almost certainly DOA so it doesn't matter.

For the sake of argument, let's say it's not DOA; do you want/need/demand the time to study it, or no?

I don't care, but at least let the rest of the GOP senate see it, there is only 18 that have worked on it and seen it.

The American people should see it. The fact that this is done in backrooms in this day and age is disgusting.
 
Bernie Sanders complaining that there will not be enough time to find out what is in the GOP healthcare bill. Well, if you just pass it, you'll find out what's in it. That is what you've splained to us in the past.

Democrats fume over 'secret' Republican healthcare bill

Nobody but a small group of Republican senators knows what's in it. That's not normal, say nonpartisan health-care analysts and historians. “I've never seen anything like it, as far as the secrecy,” said Paul Ginsburg, a health policy expert at the University of Southern California.

And it raises this dual question: Are Republicans shielding their work because they don't yet have legislation? Or because they do, and it's unpopular? And if the secrecy helps them pass a health-care bill, are we witnessing a potential historic shift in the way Washington debates — or doesn't debate — big legislation?

Why this isn't normal
Except for the early years of the 20th century, the Senate has generally voted on legislation that was crafted by members of both parties, said Donald Ritchie, the former official Senate historian.

Senate Republicans have been trying to write a bill since May, when House Republicans barely passed a controversial — and largely unpopular — piece of legislation. Senate leadership promptly threw in the trash.

But several months later, key lawmakers outside that group still don't know what's in the bill, assuming there even is one. Even Republicans don't know what's in the bill!!!

There are always some kinds of closed-door negotiations on big pieces of legislation.

But at this point in the 2009-2010 debate for the Affordable Care Act, there had been months of public committee hearings that you and I could attend or watch online or read about in the news. Senators had been briefed on what was happening and could answer reporters' questions instead of saying they have no idea what's in the bill. Amendments were offered by both sides.

Ultimately, the final version of Obamacare passed without any Republican support. But, said Jim Manley, an aide to Senate Democratic leadership at the time: “We spent months — at the detriment of the process — trying to get Republicans on board, only to give up.

So fuck off. Analysis | Are Republicans leading the most secretive health-care bill process ever?
 
Ds gave big gov't power and control and Rs will never, ever give that up.

Rs are pricks for doing this behind closed doors, no difference between them and the Ds.

They got voted in to repeal the damn thing.

What happened to access across state lines? To having it be more like auto insurance?

So sick and tired of the same old shit.
 
Ds gave big gov't power and control and Rs will never, ever give that up.

Rs are pricks for doing this behind closed doors, no difference between them and the Ds.

They got voted in to repeal the damn thing.

What happened to access across state lines? To having it be more like auto insurance?

So sick and tired of the same old shit.

DId you vote for the same old shit (D or R)?
 
Bernie Sanders complaining that there will not be enough time to find out what is in the GOP healthcare bill. Well, if you just pass it, you'll find out what's in it. That is what you've splained to us in the past.

Democrats fume over 'secret' Republican healthcare bill

Yep, Republicans are no better.

They aren't. But the point is that liberal supporters have no moral compass. None were condemning that. You'll find plenty "conservatives" here that call out Republican lawmakers.
 

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