Democrats' white male problem

[imawhosure]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

It’s just hard to see me as white males as some victim of oppression.

You did not read accurately what I wrote. The point is------------>YOU as a white male, are the OPPRESSOR in the Lefts world of propaganda. How? I do not know, ask them! But it is exactly why whenever you bring up something, for which they have no answer, they instantly go back to their stock answer that you are a racist, etc.

 

[colfax_m]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

It’s just hard to see me as white males as some victim of oppression.

You did not read accurately what I wrote. The point is------------>YOU as a white male, are the OPPRESSOR in the Lefts world of propaganda. How? I do not know, ask them! But it is exactly why whenever you bring up something, for which they have no answer, they instantly go back to their stock answer that you are a racist, etc.

And in the world of right wing, he white male is the oppressed.

Two sides if the same coin.

 

[bodecea]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots, and often treated as 2nd class citizens. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

I don't understand....what white male problem?

 

[imawhosure]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

The Left has long used its Oppressed vs. Oppressor template as the foundation of their worldview (while the Right uses Good vs. Evil). That's fine in theory, but at some point along the way they essentially weaponized it. So now they use it as a socio-cultural-political bludgeon, impulsively. I'm not even sure they realize it at this point.
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Mac, the powers that be on the Left are well aware of it, and if they are not, they have no business being elected to office as that would make them dumb as a box of rocks.

I urge ALL Americans to realize this one point---------------->the job of congress is to LEGISLATE through their body, not to take current legislation en force to court to block it! Where is the legislation for what they want? It doesn't exist!

Why?

Because they know the American people would rise up in opposition, and they would be booted out of everywhere except for the bluest of blue states. So therefore, instead of legislation to impose their vision, they use the courts to block enforcement of current law. Once the American people understand this, the Leftists are in deep trouble, ergo the alternative argument----------------->racist, homophobe, sexist, etc. They can NOT get elected on their policies; at least as of this point in time.

 

[bodecea]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

It’s just hard to see me as white males as some victim of oppression.

Agreed, for sane people.....but there is a "I'm a victim" component that CRC's (white male version) like to parade.

 

[FA_Q2]

It is a reality that the dems have to deal with. Hopes of demographics saving the party are not going to go well.

I think the party began relying on demographics too early.

Things might well change in time, but they thought this was OVER when Obama won.
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I doubt they will change at all. It is a fallacy that demographic changes will not come with political voting changes as well.

 

[Seawytch]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

 

[Meathead]

I don't understand....what white male problem?

Same one you have. They don't go for your food stamp-fatted ass.

 

[colfax_m]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

When you’ve been atop the totem pole for so long, a level playing field can feel like oppression.

 

[Mac1958]

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

First, a white male today is not responsible for what happened in our history. Second, two wrongs don't make a right.

So if this is about payback -- and I think there is a significant element of that here -- I don't think it's an unreasonable concern.
.

 

[Seawytch]

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

First, a white male today is not responsible for what happened in our history. Second, two wrongs don't make a right.

So if this is about payback, I don't think it's an unreasonable concern.
.

White men aren't actually being treated the way women and minorities have been...so, strawman.

 

[Mac1958]

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

First, a white male today is not responsible for what happened in our history. Second, two wrongs don't make a right.

So if this is about payback, I don't think it's an unreasonable concern.
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White men aren't actually being treated the way women and minorities have been...so, strawman.

I didn't say they were. So, strawman.
.

 

[sartre play]

Nothing has changed, rich white males support other rich white males the rest of us do their bidding. (of late they have let a few rich white females join in.)

 

[Seawytch]

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

First, a white male today is not responsible for what happened in our history. Second, two wrongs don't make a right.

So if this is about payback, I don't think it's an unreasonable concern.
.

White men aren't actually being treated the way women and minorities have been...so, strawman.

I didn't say they were. So, strawman.
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You just said "if this is payback". What "this"?

 

[Mac1958]

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

First, a white male today is not responsible for what happened in our history. Second, two wrongs don't make a right.

So if this is about payback, I don't think it's an unreasonable concern.
.

White men aren't actually being treated the way women and minorities have been...so, strawman.

I didn't say they were. So, strawman.
.

You just said "if this is payback". What "this"?

Is this a serious question?
.

 

[Correll]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
.

I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

It’s just hard to see me as white males as some victim of oppression.

You did not read accurately what I wrote. The point is------------>YOU as a white male, are the OPPRESSOR in the Lefts world of propaganda. How? I do not know, ask them! But it is exactly why whenever you bring up something, for which they have no answer, they instantly go back to their stock answer that you are a racist, etc.

And in the world of right wing, he white male is the oppressed.

Two sides if the same coin.

Except that our arguments are not based on it. We do not dismiss people or their arguments because of race. We want equal treatment not discrimination. We do not claim all white males are all victims.

Really, we don't do ANY of what they do, and that you claim we do.

 

[bodecea]

I don't understand....what white male problem?

Same one you have. They don't go for your food stamp-fatted ass.

You never disappoint, Chubby.

 

[Seawytch]

So white men are complaining about perceiving they are being treated the way women and minorities have historically been treated. Interesting..

First, a white male today is not responsible for what happened in our history. Second, two wrongs don't make a right.

So if this is about payback, I don't think it's an unreasonable concern.
.

White men aren't actually being treated the way women and minorities have been...so, strawman.

I didn't say they were. So, strawman.
.

You just said "if this is payback". What "this"?

Is this a serious question?
.

Yeah, it's a serious question. What is "this"? What is it you perceive is going on with white males? Do you perceive they are being somehow oppressed? Your "payback" comment indicates you do.

 

[Correll]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
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I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

It’s just hard to see me as white males as some victim of oppression.

Agreed, for sane people.....but there is a "I'm a victim" component that CRC's (white male version) like to parade.

There are documented cases of white males being discriminated again. There are well researched and peer reviewed studies on how much discrimination white males face.


Your statement is known to be factually inaccurate, by everyone.

 

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THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

Decades ago, my father, a WW2 Vet worked as a pipefitter out of a labor union. Like most of his fellow pipefitters at the time, he was a pro labor, pro union Democrat.

White working class males were the backbone of the Democratic party for many years, but recently things have changed. In their headlong pursuit of diversity, the Democratic party have showcased women and minorities to the point of white males having been marginalized and even scorned by the Democrats as racist, sexist bigots. Not surprisingly, this has caused many working class white men to drift to the GOP where they feel more accepted. This stupid move by the left wing has been the reason democrats have lost elections, and if the left wing does not stop treating white males as 2nd class citizens, they are going to continue to lose.

Democrats - get it through your head. White males vote in large numbers, and if you don't start making them feel more valued in your "big tent" that tent won't be big enough, and you'll just keep losing.

The problem here is that the party is now largely under the control of the illiberal leftist authoritarians who are 100% committed to political correctness and identity politics.

So white men (and particularly straight white men) are welcome to come along for the ride, their votes are appreciated for sure, but at this point they are simply second class citizens who'd damn well better know their place and watch what they say.

That's just the reality at this point.
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I'm starting to get the impression that "White Males" are to root of all the world's woes... I feel like I'm haven't been doing my part...

White male here. White men have been in charge of the country since its founding. The idea that trying to level the playing field so that non-white makes can have a seat at the table is not “threatening”.

Except that no one is complaining about a level playing field. THe complaints were vague, but clearly not that.


So, you want to address what was actually said, instead of the strawman you made up?

The OP is 100% correct as is Mac.

What they neglected to bring up is the number 1 reason this has happened------------->identity politics, and victimology! You can not be a victim politically, without an oppressor. The Left has designated white males as the oppressor, and the excuse for everything that is bad politically for the oppressed. All you need do is look back on Google to the last 2 Bush Presidency's along with Reagan, and see how they were characterized by the Left. All 3 of them were called every name that Trump is being called today. For that matter, so was Mcain as he ran against Obama, and so was Romney. The Left has now reaped what they have sown for decades!

Let us ALL face the reality---------------->the Lefts policies, they can NOT run on!

Free healthcare to illegals?

Open borders, or more open borders?

Pay higher taxes?

Closed school systems where there is no freedom of choice for minorities?

And the list goes on!

So what they have to do is create the atmosphere that these things that help most people are being done for some nefarious reason to unfairly help their boogeyman of choice, and that would be most male Caucasians, then attempt to make their constituents despise the boogeyman, and vote against their own self interest in the attempt to punish said boogeyman!

Just consider what is obvious to everyone who can think, including the Leftists; and believe it or not, they may lie like hell, but they can think--------------> If you start to work and move up the ladder, when you actually get to the point where you pay more into taxes then you receive back, what percentage of people are going to vote themselves a significant tax HIKE?

So how do you make it palatable? Tell the people that it is racist, sexist, or homophobic not to pay MORE taxes, and join the woke crowd! Sounds ridiculous when you read it, doesn't it! But that is exactly the method they use as Leftists. And yet, if you read polling, you will notice a significant uptick in Black support for Trump. Numerous polling says this is true, and he is hovering somewhere in the low 20% range. If this is accurate, the Left has already lost, and that is the brutal truth if it becomes fact on election day!

It’s just hard to see me as white males as some victim of oppression.

Agreed, for sane people.....but there is a "I'm a victim" component that CRC's (white male version) like to parade.

There are documented cases of white males being discriminated again. There are well researched and peer reviewed studies on how much discrimination white males face.


Your statement is known to be factually inaccurate, by everyone.

Then you will have no problem sharing some of those "well-researched" and "documented cases" with us.