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House to vote on Trayvon amendment - Washington Times
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The life of ONE criminal is worth 100 law abiding citizens.
The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the House's debate on the Commerce Department spending bill
From the article...Florida's law, which allows residents to use force in response to an attack without first having to retreat,
stand your ground laws are not "self-defense" laws. common law self defense has always existed. these laws were the "if you shoot first, you win" laws.
House to vote on Trayvon amendment - Washington Times
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The life of ONE criminal is worth 100 law abiding citizens.
From the article...Florida's law, which allows residents to use force in response to an attack without first having to retreat,
House to vote on Trayvon amendment - Washington Times
I guess you are supposed to retreat while a gang of thugs are beating you senseless and are moving towards the kids rooms...Typical Lib Bullshit...
House to vote on Trayvon amendment - Washington Times
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The life of ONE criminal is worth 100 law abiding citizens.
stand your ground laws are not "self-defense" laws. common law self defense has always existed. these laws were the "if you shoot first, you win" laws.
but you aren't that bright, so probably that's too complicated for you to follow.
Self defense is when you are running away from danger, stop, turn and face it.
Chasing someone down and shooting them in cold blood is murder. Defense isn't chasing someone down who is running away from you. How Republicans can twist this into that is a mystery. Shows they aren't very smart. Can't figure out the simplest things.
stand your ground laws are not "self-defense" laws. common law self defense has always existed. these laws were the "if you shoot first, you win" laws.
That is absolutely false, Jillian. Many states have and still do require you to retreat first if at all possible when attacked. Florida's law and other states that have passed so called "Castle Doctrines", like Pennsylvania just recently did, have eliminated that nonsensical requirement. If someone breaks into your house you have a right to shoot them dead without having to try and get away first. Plain common sense. Forgive me if I don't give a fuck about the life of a dangerous criminal. Why is it the anti-gun crowd always seems to care more about them?
stand your ground laws are not "self-defense" laws. common law self defense has always existed. these laws were the "if you shoot first, you win" laws.
That is absolutely false, Jillian. Many states have and still do require you to retreat first if at all possible when attacked. Florida's law and other states that have passed so called "Castle Doctrines", like Pennsylvania just recently did, have eliminated that nonsensical requirement. If someone breaks into your house you have a right to shoot them dead without having to try and get away first. Plain common sense. Forgive me if I don't give a fuck about the life of a dangerous criminal. Why is it the anti-gun crowd always seems to care more about them?
The problem is we dont place the same restriction on citizens that we place on law enforcement and our soldiers.
I completely agree a person has the right to defend their home and themselves. But that right should not be used to infringe upon the right of others to live. In my opinion, it should not be lawful to simply open fire just because you feel threatened in some way. Too subjective. We need objective clarification to decide what is a lawful act and what is not. Too much grey area leads to unecessary deaths.
That is absolutely false, Jillian. Many states have and still do require you to retreat first if at all possible when attacked. Florida's law and other states that have passed so called "Castle Doctrines", like Pennsylvania just recently did, have eliminated that nonsensical requirement. If someone breaks into your house you have a right to shoot them dead without having to try and get away first. Plain common sense. Forgive me if I don't give a fuck about the life of a dangerous criminal. Why is it the anti-gun crowd always seems to care more about them?
The problem is we dont place the same restriction on citizens that we place on law enforcement and our soldiers.
I completely agree a person has the right to defend their home and themselves. But that right should not be used to infringe upon the right of others to live. In my opinion, it should not be lawful to simply open fire just because you feel threatened in some way. Too subjective. We need objective clarification to decide what is a lawful act and what is not. Too much grey area leads to unecessary deaths.
And what would be an 'objective' test to know when one should open fire?
House to vote on Trayvon amendment - Washington Times
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The life of ONE criminal is worth 100 law abiding citizens.
from under a hoodie, ex-Governor Jennifer Granholm has been outspoken on the need for "justice" in the Trayvon Martin killing, including attacking the NRA for pushing Florida's so-called "stand-your-ground" law that allegedly encourages folks like George Zimmerman to wield a gun when threatened.
Left unmentioned in Granholm's attack, however, is that she herself was an NRA-supported advocate for passing Michigan's own stand-your-ground law in 2006.
"Tonight on 'The War Room' we'll examine . . . the National Rifle Association's push for self-defense laws that have allowed Trayvon Martin's killer to go unpunished," previewed the March 29 website of her Current TV program, "The War Room."
In one of two segments on the stand-your-ground issue and gun rights run amok, Granholm guest, Joseph Marshall, an activist and radio host, exclaimed "that's a bad law."
"Of course," replied Granholm.
Self defense is when you are running away from danger, stop, turn and face it.
Chasing someone down and shooting them in cold blood is murder. Defense isn't chasing someone down who is running away from you. How Republicans can twist this into that is a mystery. Shows they aren't very smart. Can't figure out the simplest things.
Well, when you can prove that is what George Zimmerman did, then you can prove that he committed murder. In the meantime, his legal defense is still that it was self defense.
God help us if liberals start demanding that in the face of violent attacks we are required by law to run first and failing the success of that, get down on our knees and plead for mercy from criminals.
Immie
