Democrats vs The Iranian People

[Lumpy 1]

Will the present Iranian regime fall this year and the Obama Administration and the Democratic Party find themselves on the wrong side of the issue? Time will tell I'm guessing.
It's worth noticing where they stand before the twist...

Not only has the U.S. government not “born witness” to the people’s struggle in Iran, the Democrats are working to undermine it. U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has announced his intention to push forward potentially crippling U.S. sanctions against Iran’s oil imports (Iran cannot refine all of the oil it needs, and must import 40 percent). If realized, this action would amount to an act of war.

Iran's Revolution vs. the Democrats : Indybay

 

[rightwinger]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

 

[txlonghorn]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

So you think it's a good idea to thwart sanctions under the current nuclear threat

 

[keysersosa]

haven't republicans proven that they are always wrong? Are they completely unaware that the last 8 years under peewee bush recorded the worst foreign policy decisions in our history? Why are they so uninformed?

 

[Lumpy 1]

haven't republicans proven that they are always wrong? Are they completely unaware that the last 8 years under peewee bush recorded the worst foreign policy decisions in our history? Why are they so uninformed?

Well lets here them, mainly the ones Democrats didn't vote for...

(ah, you don't have too newbe)

 

[asaratis]

Yep...the Iranians don't like Democrats anymore. Can't say I blame 'em.

 

[Lumpy 1]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

So we're clear, Obama and the Democratic party don't support the revolutionaries.

 

[sole survivor]

George, Dick and Don did a fine job with foreign policy. Executed Saddam Hussein and his sons, Made a terrorist honey pot out of Iraq, boxed in Iran in the east with the Afghan occupation and protected the free flow of oil out of the Persian gulf a grave security concern for America. And thats just the Middle East.

Foreign Policy A+

 

[asaratis]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

So we're clear, Obama and the Democratic party don't support the revolutionaries.

That's why Kerry got his little emissary ass slapped.

 

[jillian]

Really? Or maybe it's that we mess up the opposition's ability to operate if we become associated with their protests

 

[Lumpy 1]

Really? Or maybe it's that we mess up the opposition's ability to operate if we become associated with their protests

I feel the present Iranian Regime is due for a fall, I just would like to establish where Democrats on this board generally stand on the issue, for future reverence.

Ah.. the rep bully strikes again.... (free speech.... jillian???)

 

[rightwinger]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

So we're clear, Obama and the Democratic party don't support the revolutionaries.

Can you show where they have stated they don't support the revolutionaries?

Unlike Right wingnuts who would openly push the revolution, Obama understands that direct support would give Iran an excuse to crush the revolution.

 

[code1211]

Really? Or maybe it's that we mess up the opposition's ability to operate if we become associated with their protests

I feel the present Iranian Regime is due for a fall, I just would like to establish where Democrats on this board generally stand on the issue, for future reverence.

Ah.. the rep bully strikes again.... (free speech.... jillian???)

The problem for police state leaders is that their soldiers are people. Under the Shah, one day, the soldiers didn't shoot the people and the revolutionaries won. That is how despots fall.

With every rise of the opposition and every rise of a leader who is willing to die for the cause and every mother who asks her son why he is in the repressive army, another brick falls out of the wall. Eventually, the soldiers don't shoot and when that happens, the despot falls.

As the Prez, the Big 0 does not need to promise support or arms or anything at all. He only needs to positively refer to it. Maybe help to smuggle in the hardware to open the internet to the general populace. Communication is too open already to contain freedom out. The videos via cell phone are revealing and the light is shining in.

The day is coming when the soldiers simply will not shoot.

Isreal was number 1. Iraq is number 2. With a miracle, Afghanistan could be number 3. What might history write if democracies grow over the Middle East according the vision of GWB?

 

[Dr Grump]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

So you think it's a good idea to thwart sanctions under the current nuclear threat

What nuclear threat? There isn't one...

 

[Dr Grump]

Isreal was number 1. Iraq is number 2. With a miracle, Afghanistan could be number 3. What might history write if democracies grow over the Middle East according the vision of GWB?

You are right with regard to Israel; way too premature for number two; and number three will never happen....

 

[rdean]

Really? Or maybe it's that we mess up the opposition's ability to operate if we become associated with their protests

I feel the present Iranian Regime is due for a fall, I just would like to establish where Democrats on this board generally stand on the issue, for future reverence.

Why do Republicans "pretend" to be for democracy? They are NOT for democracy here.

Let me clue you in. The Iranian government promotes ID over evolution. They promote "prayer" in public schools. They put a major part of their budget into defense. They promote a "national religion". They are anti gay. They are anti feminists and anti abortion. So far, they sound like the "perfect Republicans".

So, what is it Republicans "EXPECT" Democrats to do? We've already bombed and are occupying two countries. Two Republican messes they expect Democrats to "clean up".

If we invade or bomb Iran, will they "welcome us with open arms" the same way they did in Iraq? Hey, Republicans, let us know when Iraq has "American Appreciation and Freedom" day. Hold your breath until that day is announced.

Report: Over 350 Public Schools Teaching the Bible | Christianpost.com

Evolution is rarely taught in many Islamic countries, even in colleges. Indeed, teaching evolution is a criminal offense in some Islamic nations.

Evolution: Church-State Separation (washingtonpost.com)

 

[Lumpy 1]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

So we're clear, Obama and the Democratic party don't support the revolutionaries.

Can you show where they have stated they don't support the revolutionaries?

Unlike Right wingnuts who would openly push the revolution, Obama understands that direct support would give Iran an excuse to crush the revolution.

Ah politics.. So we're clear, Obama and the Democratic party don't OPENLY support the revolutionaries.

In fact, according to the article, they openly support measures that undermine the revolutionaries and your fine with that.

 

[WillowTree]

If th US comes out on the side of the revolutionaries then the Iranian government will claim the revolution is just a US lead revolt. This will give them grounds to squash it and blame the US.

Of course the Republicans would have barged into that one, but Obama prefers to make it an international response.

Score one for Obama

So we're clear, Obama and the Democratic party don't support the revolutionaries.

Can you show where they have stated they don't support the revolutionaries?

Unlike Right wingnuts who would openly push the revolution, Obama understands that direct support would give Iran an excuse to crush the revolution.

yes, of course.. what are they doing now???? crushing the revolution?? why yes they are.. and not only that they (the Iranian gov. blames the USA) so... now what????

 

[jillian]

Really? Or maybe it's that we mess up the opposition's ability to operate if we become associated with their protests

I feel the present Iranian Regime is due for a fall, I just would like to establish where Democrats on this board generally stand on the issue, for future reverence.

Ah.. the rep bully strikes again.... (free speech.... jillian???)

you have free speech.

you say all the stupid stuff you want.

but feel free to whine.

 

[Munin]

Really? Or maybe it's that we mess up the opposition's ability to operate if we become associated with their protests

I feel the present Iranian Regime is due for a fall, I just would like to establish where Democrats on this board generally stand on the issue, for future reverence.

Ah.. the rep bully strikes again.... (free speech.... jillian???)

The problem for police state leaders is that their soldiers are people. Under the Shah, one day, the soldiers didn't shoot the people and the revolutionaries won. That is how despots fall.

With every rise of the opposition and every rise of a leader who is willing to die for the cause and every mother who asks her son why he is in the repressive army, another brick falls out of the wall. Eventually, the soldiers don't shoot and when that happens, the despot falls.

As the Prez, the Big 0 does not need to promise support or arms or anything at all. He only needs to positively refer to it. Maybe help to smuggle in the hardware to open the internet to the general populace. Communication is too open already to contain freedom out. The videos via cell phone are revealing and the light is shining in.

The day is coming when the soldiers simply will not shoot.

Isreal was number 1. Iraq is number 2. With a miracle, Afghanistan could be number 3. What might history write if democracies grow over the Middle East according the vision of GWB?

I think you re generalising the demise of dictatorships to much: considering that the biggest dictatorship in the world wil soon become (with our help) the second biggest economy of the world: revolutions don't always work out the "right" way Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In some cases your reasoning (failing dictatorships) is true, but not with regard to Iraq and afghanistan: the countries are becoming religious theocracies not democracies. The problem with these "islamic" people is that they still live with a medieval ideology based on religion, dictatorship seems to be the only way many muslims like to live as it is the only way to use their religion as a law.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/iraq/...-iraq-is-this-what-our-soldiers-died-for.html