Democrats -- The party of Voter Disenfranchisement.

[HUGGY]

Wild speculation. Any truth to your belief that Hillary started with 700 delegates is because at the start Bernie was polling at nothing. If he'd won the majority vote and delegates, then you'd have an argument. But you don't.

How do you OVERCOME a 15 pt deficit with REAL votes? Especially if that deficit is COMMON KNOWLEDGE from the day you declare?

If it’s common knowledge, then there is no problem. The Democrats were very smart to keep their party from being hijacked by a non party member. Lets remember, Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat.

And the Democrats are not liberals.

There is nothing pre-ordained that says Democrats must be liberals or Republicans must be conservatives. I offer Drumpf as an example.

Surprisingly you have a point. The group of 2016 democrats owe a lot to the 1980’s republicans. There was a time from 1968 to 1992 that the GOP held the White House for all but 4 of those years. Think about that; 4 out of 24 years. Then the GOP went plumb crazy with Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay and hasn’t recovered since.

Pro Tip: When they have their post-mortem for this year trying out to figure “what went wrong”, look for the word/phrase “extremist” or “extreme” or “all or nothing” to be banished from the GOP playbook. They keep running that offense and it’s killing them.

The demographic changes are the only reason your party has any power at all with your anti-white platform.

If Trump loses we will simply create our own nation and destroy any power the US has left before Hillary can use it.

I like simple solutions.

 

[flacaltenn]

Clearly -- the anger of the Bernie delegates is justified. The party that used "Voter Disenfranchisement" as an accusation got caught being a major creator of "Voter Dissing".

What else would you call 700+ delegates who were never elected, each having 10,000 TIMES the power of an elected delegate? And WHY when these Supers went in front of the cameras and on the Sunday Talk circuit to chat up the wonderful qualities of their dangerous lunatic nominee -- did they not have to DISCLOSE that they were ACTUALLY a SuperDelegate by way of Party hierarchy or elected office? You don't think it was to PROTECT THEMSELVES from blowback at their next election? Nawwwwww...

What's with all the coin flips and card draws for delegates done ad hoc on the floor of the primaries?

Voter Disenfranchisement is a serious accusation. And I wouldn't make it without a CLEAR case.. They need to be pushed back. Especially after being caught in the act --- red handed.. Hell to pay.. It's not going away..

you know, it would probably be much better if you at least touched on reality when you post a thread.

there were a few loud bernie delegates. no one was disenfranchised. if anyone was disenfranchised it was all the people in caucus states who have real lives and don't have time to spend three or four hours playing caucus....hence only college kids having that time and bernie winning the caucus states.

p.s. party candidates used to be chosen in closed meetings by cigar smoking politicos. getting to vote for them at all is purely optional.

but thanks for your concern for the democrats. it would be touching if it wasn't so disingenuous.

Yeah. THAT'S actually "out of touch with reality" -- if you're rationalizing this problem and excusing it with such weak arguments.

 

[jillian]

Clearly -- the anger of the Bernie delegates is justified. The party that used "Voter Disenfranchisement" as an accusation got caught being a major creator of "Voter Dissing".

What else would you call 700+ delegates who were never elected, each having 10,000 TIMES the power of an elected delegate? And WHY when these Supers went in front of the cameras and on the Sunday Talk circuit to chat up the wonderful qualities of their dangerous lunatic nominee -- did they not have to DISCLOSE that they were ACTUALLY a SuperDelegate by way of Party hierarchy or elected office? You don't think it was to PROTECT THEMSELVES from blowback at their next election? Nawwwwww...

What's with all the coin flips and card draws for delegates done ad hoc on the floor of the primaries?

Voter Disenfranchisement is a serious accusation. And I wouldn't make it without a CLEAR case.. They need to be pushed back. Especially after being caught in the act --- red handed.. Hell to pay.. It's not going away..

you know, it would probably be much better if you at least touched on reality when you post a thread.

there were a few loud bernie delegates. no one was disenfranchised. if anyone was disenfranchised it was all the people in caucus states who have real lives and don't have time to spend three or four hours playing caucus....hence only college kids having that time and bernie winning the caucus states.

p.s. party candidates used to be chosen in closed meetings by cigar smoking politicos. getting to vote for them at all is purely optional.

but thanks for your concern for the democrats. it would be touching if it wasn't so disingenuous.

Yeah. THAT'S actually "out of touch with reality" -- if you're rationalizing this problem and excusing it with such weak arguments.

i'm not concerned about people who aren't democrats not choosing our nominee.

as for the 700...they were always gong to go with the popular vote. so the bernie or bust jerks can whine til their heads explode.

but again...thank you for your concern.

 

[Disir]

How do you OVERCOME a 15 pt deficit with REAL votes? Especially if that deficit is COMMON KNOWLEDGE from the day you declare?

If it’s common knowledge, then there is no problem. The Democrats were very smart to keep their party from being hijacked by a non party member. Lets remember, Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat.

And the Democrats are not liberals.

There is nothing pre-ordained that says Democrats must be liberals or Republicans must be conservatives. I offer Drumpf as an example.

Surprisingly you have a point. The group of 2016 democrats owe a lot to the 1980’s republicans. There was a time from 1968 to 1992 that the GOP held the White House for all but 4 of those years. Think about that; 4 out of 24 years. Then the GOP went plumb crazy with Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay and hasn’t recovered since.

Pro Tip: When they have their post-mortem for this year trying out to figure “what went wrong”, look for the word/phrase “extremist” or “extreme” or “all or nothing” to be banished from the GOP playbook. They keep running that offense and it’s killing them.

Then don't sell it as such. You're crack whores with better shoes.

you need to stop projecting.

You need to stay off the street corners.

 

[flacaltenn]

Clearly -- the anger of the Bernie delegates is justified. The party that used "Voter Disenfranchisement" as an accusation got caught being a major creator of "Voter Dissing".

What else would you call 700+ delegates who were never elected, each having 10,000 TIMES the power of an elected delegate? And WHY when these Supers went in front of the cameras and on the Sunday Talk circuit to chat up the wonderful qualities of their dangerous lunatic nominee -- did they not have to DISCLOSE that they were ACTUALLY a SuperDelegate by way of Party hierarchy or elected office? You don't think it was to PROTECT THEMSELVES from blowback at their next election? Nawwwwww...

What's with all the coin flips and card draws for delegates done ad hoc on the floor of the primaries?

Voter Disenfranchisement is a serious accusation. And I wouldn't make it without a CLEAR case.. They need to be pushed back. Especially after being caught in the act --- red handed.. Hell to pay.. It's not going away..

you know, it would probably be much better if you at least touched on reality when you post a thread.

there were a few loud bernie delegates. no one was disenfranchised. if anyone was disenfranchised it was all the people in caucus states who have real lives and don't have time to spend three or four hours playing caucus....hence only college kids having that time and bernie winning the caucus states.

p.s. party candidates used to be chosen in closed meetings by cigar smoking politicos. getting to vote for them at all is purely optional.

but thanks for your concern for the democrats. it would be touching if it wasn't so disingenuous.

Yeah. THAT'S actually "out of touch with reality" -- if you're rationalizing this problem and excusing it with such weak arguments.

i'm not concerned about people who aren't democrats not choosing our nominee.

as for the 700...they were always gong to go with the popular vote. so the bernie or bust jerks can whine til their heads explode.

but again...thank you for your concern.

No --- they were always gonna go with the "next in line". The DNC choice. The Establishment candidate. That is why that ugly rule exists.

 

[Spare_change]

Ask any Republican about gerrymandering. You'll get either blank stares or a wry s,lie. Ask any Republican about motor-voter. Again, stares or smiles. Ask any Republican about the recent Supreme Court ruling that stripped the Voter's Rights Act of 1964. Ask them about voter ID laws. Ask them about their opposition to same day voter registration and Election Day.

Then tell us more aboutDemocrats--The party of Voter Disenfranchisment.

What's to ask.

They are the one's who started it.

Gerrymandering got them the house.

It did not get them the senate.

That was the same SCOTUS that upheld the ACA.

You don't have to be GOP to not like same day voter registration.

The problem with voter I.D. laws is what ?

Historically false .... gerrymandering was originated by Governor Elbridge Gerry, a Democratic governor of Massachusetts in 1812. The Republican party didn't even exist until 1854.

It was a tool commonly used by Democrats in the post-Civil War south to control the black population.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Ask any Republican about gerrymandering. You'll get either blank stares or a wry s,lie. Ask any Republican about motor-voter. Again, stares or smiles. Ask any Republican about the recent Supreme Court ruling that stripped the Voter's Rights Act of 1964. Ask them about voter ID laws. Ask them about their opposition to same day voter registration and Election Day.

Then tell us more aboutDemocrats--The party of Voter Disenfranchisment.

What's to ask.

They are the one's who started it.

Gerrymandering got them the house.

It did not get them the senate.

That was the same SCOTUS that upheld the ACA.

You don't have to be GOP to not like same day voter registration.

The problem with voter I.D. laws is what ?

Historically false .... gerrymandering was originated by Governor Elbridge Gerry, a Democratic governor of Massachusetts in 1812. The Republican party didn't even exist until 1854.

It was a tool commonly used by Democrats in the post-Civil War south to control the black population.

Correct. My post was wrong (I should have said started this most recent round).

 

[buckeye45_73]

Clearly -- the anger of the Bernie delegates is justified. The party that used "Voter Disenfranchisement" as an accusation got caught being a major creator of "Voter Dissing".

What else would you call 700+ delegates who were never elected, each having 10,000 TIMES the power of an elected delegate? And WHY when these Supers went in front of the cameras and on the Sunday Talk circuit to chat up the wonderful qualities of their dangerous lunatic nominee -- did they not have to DISCLOSE that they were ACTUALLY a SuperDelegate by way of Party hierarchy or elected office? You don't think it was to PROTECT THEMSELVES from blowback at their next election? Nawwwwww...

What's with all the coin flips and card draws for delegates done ad hoc on the floor of the primaries?

Voter Disenfranchisement is a serious accusation. And I wouldn't make it without a CLEAR case.. They need to be pushed back. Especially after being caught in the act --- red handed.. Hell to pay.. It's not going away..

you know, it would probably be much better if you at least touched on reality when you post a thread.

there were a few loud bernie delegates. no one was disenfranchised. if anyone was disenfranchised it was all the people in caucus states who have real lives and don't have time to spend three or four hours playing caucus....hence only college kids having that time and bernie winning the caucus states.

p.s. party candidates used to be chosen in closed meetings by cigar smoking politicos. getting to vote for them at all is purely optional.

but thanks for your concern for the democrats. it would be touching if it wasn't so disingenuous.

Yeah. THAT'S actually "out of touch with reality" -- if you're rationalizing this problem and excusing it with such weak arguments.

i'm not concerned about people who aren't democrats not choosing our nominee.

as for the 700...they were always gong to go with the popular vote. so the bernie or bust jerks can whine til their heads explode.

but again...thank you for your concern.

Bullshit....then why have them?

 

[ninja007]

SHE WAS PROMISED the nomination after losing to Obama.