Democrats: The Modern 'Know-Nothing' Party

[Truthmatters]

Ryan does have a plan out there which is more than I can say for the Dems. Is it perfect. Nope.

I like Macks plan better as his make some serious cuts.

As for Reagan I sure wish that man were in the WH today. I have no doubt the economy would be up and running in no time. He had to make some swaps with Tip O'Neil during the 80's and he didn't get all that he wanted but the 80's sure rocked for me at any rate.

Reagan exploded the debt and even raised taxes you fool

 

[Claudette]

Talk about failure. How bout FDR and Barry Boy?? They were Dems the last time I looked.

Their plans didn't help shit. FDR extended the depression with his bs and Barry has sure extended this one as well.

Its slowly improving but thats in spite of what Barry has done not because of it.

 

[Decepticon]

Golly...it couldn't be that MOST of the deficit spending Obama is doing was PERFECTLY FINE during the Bush years, could it?


THE IGNORANCE of you people is ASTOUNDING! Really. How do you FUNCTION in everyday life being this woefully willfully ignorant?

 

[Decepticon]

Talk about failure. How bout FDR and Barry Boy?? They were Dems the last time I looked.

Their plans didn't help shit. FDR extended the depression with his bs and Barry has sure extended this one as well.

Its slowly improving but thats in spite of what Barry has done not because of it.

Yeah, those times from the 50s through the 80's were a NIGHTMARE for the American middle class.

 

[Claudette]

Lets try the 30's and today. Loads of nightmares there jack.

FDR's policies extened the GP. It was WWII that finally put a stop to it. His polices were an utter failure.

Hows the economy today under Barry Boy?? Its improving but now because of anything that dufus has done. Jesus. He wasted billions of taxdollars on his stimulus and "shovel ready" jobs and his green bs.

 

[Truthmatters]

Claude FDR did NOT extend the great depression.

The only people who believe that clap trap are two proffessors and the right wing rabble who love rewritten history

 

[Truthmatters]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bmEv2-rFA]President Bush's speech on the financial crisis 9/24/08 (1) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Truthmatters]

Note the date on that crash announcement you fool.

Its BEFORE Obama was elected.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. In "Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One," Dr. Thomas Sowell points out that many politicians do not think beyond Stage One because they will be praised (and elected) for the short term benefits but will not be held accountable much later when the long term consequences appear.


The truth can be clearly seen in the economic policy that will be voted on in November.

2. The NYTimes verifies that the Obama economic plan is less beneficial than the Ryan Plan:

a. Deficit in 2016
Obama: $529 billion
Ryan Plan $241 billion

b. Added debt over the next ten years:
Obama $6.4 trillion
Ryan $3.1 trillion

c. Balances the budget:
Obama: never
Ryan: by 2040
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/us/politics/house-republicans-release-budget-blueprint.html


Not even close!
To vote for the Obama economic plan, one would have to subscribe to 'I know nothing...I vote Democrat.'


Obama: When you find yourself in a hole.....stop digging.

You are the party that hates science, tries to rewrite history at every turn, hates higher education and calls it brainwashing and trashes anyone who teaches in this country.


Your side has failed historically with its ideas repetedly.

get some ideas that might work for na change

"You are the party that hates science, tries to rewrite history at every turn,..."

Did you notice the source of the link?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Progressives are incredibly dishonest. It's hardly even worth having a civil debate with most of them. Especially here.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Progressives are incredibly dishonest. It's hardly even worth having a civil debate with most of them. Especially here.

Once again the definition of Liberal is an individual for whom data, facts, logic, nor experience have any bearing in decision making.

Perhaps you are right....it could be summed up under 'dishonest.'

But remember, only 10-15% of folks participate in the debate...so we are writing for the other 85% who merely read our posts.

And in the market place of ideas, conservatives eat liberals' lunch.

 

[Claudette]

Claude FDR did NOT extend the great depression.

The only people who believe that clap trap are two proffessors and the right wing rabble who love rewritten history

He sure did.

Google is your friend. Take a peak at what FDR's policies did as far as the GP is concerned.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Claude FDR did NOT extend the great depression.

The only people who believe that clap trap are two proffessors and the right wing rabble who love rewritten history

"How to Turn a Recession into a Depression

by William A. Niskanen

Four federal economic policies transformed the Hoover recession into the Great Depression: higher tariffs, stronger unions, higher marginal tax rates, and a lower money supply. President Obama, unfortunately, has endorsed some variant of the first three of these policies, and he will face a critical choice on monetary policy in a year or so."
How to Turn a Recession into a Depression

 

[Claudette]

Note the date on that crash announcement you fool.

Its BEFORE Obama was elected.

We all know that you FOOL.

The question is what has Barry done to put an end to it.

Not a hell of a lot.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. When you hear Ryan promise to balance the budget, just remember,

Reagan promised to balance the budget,

with essentially the same plan Ryan is proposing.

2. Keep in mind, Obama's deficits are all occurring under Republican tax plans; Obama's deficits are the result of Obama acting like a Republican on taxes.

Well, since you mention 'The Great Man,'.....

"By the end of the summer of Reagan's third year in office, the economy was soaring. The GDP growth rate was 5% and racing toward 7%, even 8% growth. In 1983 and '84 output was growing so fast the biggest worry was that the economy would "overheat." In the summer of 2011 we have an economy limping along at barely 1% growth and by some indications headed toward a "double-dip" recession. By the end of Reagan's first term, it was Morning in America. Today there is gloomy talk of America in its twilight.

The Reagan philosophy was to incentivize production—i.e., the "supply side" of the economy—by lowering restraints on business expansion and investment. This was done by slashing marginal income tax rates, eliminating regulatory high hurdles, and reining in inflation with a tighter monetary policy."
Stephen Moore: Obamanonics vs. Reaganomics - WSJ.com

So? What's that have to do with Reagan promising to balance the budget (with a plan like Ryan's)
and giving us triple digit deficits instead?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. When you hear Ryan promise to balance the budget, just remember,

Reagan promised to balance the budget,

with essentially the same plan Ryan is proposing.

2. Keep in mind, Obama's deficits are all occurring under Republican tax plans; Obama's deficits are the result of Obama acting like a Republican on taxes.

Well, since you mention 'The Great Man,'.....

"By the end of the summer of Reagan's third year in office, the economy was soaring. The GDP growth rate was 5% and racing toward 7%, even 8% growth. In 1983 and '84 output was growing so fast the biggest worry was that the economy would "overheat." In the summer of 2011 we have an economy limping along at barely 1% growth and by some indications headed toward a "double-dip" recession. By the end of Reagan's first term, it was Morning in America. Today there is gloomy talk of America in its twilight.

The Reagan philosophy was to incentivize production—i.e., the "supply side" of the economy—by lowering restraints on business expansion and investment. This was done by slashing marginal income tax rates, eliminating regulatory high hurdles, and reining in inflation with a tighter monetary policy."
Stephen Moore: Obamanonics vs. Reaganomics - WSJ.com

So? What's that have to do with Reagan promising to balance the budget (with a plan like Ryan's)
and giving us triple digit deficits instead?

1. "You can blame the (mostly) Democratic-controlled Congress of the time for that, of course, although Reagan himself never proposed a balanced budget, either — though he did often call for an constitutional amendment to require one."
http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2011/02/06/from-the-archives-reagans-balanced-budget-promise/

2. Reaganomics gave the American citizen a golden (economic) age...

3. ....and more importantly, he purchased freedom for the entire world by ending the 'Evil Empire' without firing a single shot...
...Priceless!


Put Ron on the Rock!
Speaking of which, yesterday was Gutzon Borglum's birthday, March 25, 1867.

 

[Claudette]

Well, since you mention 'The Great Man,'.....

"By the end of the summer of Reagan's third year in office, the economy was soaring. The GDP growth rate was 5% and racing toward 7%, even 8% growth. In 1983 and '84 output was growing so fast the biggest worry was that the economy would "overheat." In the summer of 2011 we have an economy limping along at barely 1% growth and by some indications headed toward a "double-dip" recession. By the end of Reagan's first term, it was Morning in America. Today there is gloomy talk of America in its twilight.

The Reagan philosophy was to incentivize production—i.e., the "supply side" of the economy—by lowering restraints on business expansion and investment. This was done by slashing marginal income tax rates, eliminating regulatory high hurdles, and reining in inflation with a tighter monetary policy."
Stephen Moore: Obamanonics vs. Reaganomics - WSJ.com

So? What's that have to do with Reagan promising to balance the budget (with a plan like Ryan's)
and giving us triple digit deficits instead?

1. "You can blame the (mostly) Democratic-controlled Congress of the time for that, of course, although Reagan himself never proposed a balanced budget, either — though he did often call for an constitutional amendment to require one."
http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2011/02/06/from-the-archives-reagans-balanced-budget-promise/

2. Reaganomics gave the American citizen a golden (economic) age...

3. ....and more importantly, he purchased freedom for the entire world by ending the 'Evil Empire' without firing a single shot...
...Priceless!


Put Ron on the Rock!
Speaking of which, yesterday was Gutzon Borglum's birthday, March 25, 1867.

Reagan didn't do all that he wanted to do because he had to make swaps with Tip O'Neil and the Dems.

All in all he was a much better POTUS than the current occupant of the WH.

No comparison in my book.

 

[Greenbeard]

2. The NYTimes verifies that the Obama economic plan is less beneficial than the Ryan Plan:

There is no "Ryan Plan." Ryan asked the CBO to calculate what would happen if revenues and spending happened to be at certain levels he specified and entitlement spending grew at a rate he specified. He doesn't actually have a fucking clue as to how to achieve that.

Discretionary spending includes both defense spending and nondefense spending—in roughly equal amounts currently. That combination of other mandatory and discretionary spending was specified to decline from 12 percent of GDP in 2010 to about 6 percent in 2021 and then move in line with the GDP price deflator beginning in 2022, which would generate a further decline relative to GDP. No proposals were specified that would generate that path.

The path for revenues as a percentage of GDP was specified by Chairman Ryan’s staff. The path rises steadily from about 15 percent of GDP in 2010 to 19 percent in 2028 and remains at that level thereafter. There were no specifications of particular revenue provisions that would generate that path.

Under the specified path, average real (inflation-adjusted) spending for new enrollees in Medicare would rise in coming decades but at a much slower rate than would occur under the other policy scenarios that CBO has analyzed (see Figure 2). [...]

The implications of that substantial cut in spending relative to the other policy scenarios are unclear, because they would depend on both the specific policies that were implemented to generate that spending amount and the ways in which the nation’s health care and health insurance systems reacted to those policies.

 

[rightwinger]

Progressives are incredibly dishonest. It's hardly even worth having a civil debate with most of them. Especially here.

Once again the definition of Liberal is an individual for whom data, facts, logic, nor experience have any bearing in decision making.

Perhaps you are right....it could be summed up under 'dishonest.'

But remember, only 10-15% of folks participate in the debate...so we are writing for the other 85% who merely read our posts.

And in the market place of ideas, conservatives eat liberals' lunch.

Another reason why Obama will win in a landslide in November......

 

[francoHFW]

Hilarious...Pub dupes. See sig. Truth you don't know, lies you do...