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Agreed: The Keystone pipeline--Obama threatened to veto if it was in the bill--well it was--and the 2 month extension they want--is so they can bring up class warfare in a couple of months again. REAL PRIVATE sector job growth is the enemy of this administrations agenda.
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names?
Creating jobs would get people independent again and not having to rely on government. That is not what the Dems want and they just proved it by refusing the payroll tax cut because the bill contained - gasp - something that would get people back to work.
The biggest lie he ever told was when he took the oath of office and promise to uphold and defend our constitution. He has no intention of doing that and he's made it clear with his own words. Can't blame TOTUS for that.
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names?
No, I've had wonderfully civil discussions here across the political spectrum.
But when you spout intellectually bankrupt verbal diarrhea like this:
Creating jobs would get people independent again and not having to rely on government. That is not what the Dems want and they just proved it by refusing the payroll tax cut because the bill contained - gasp - something that would get people back to work.
...you don't deserve civil discussion. You deserve, and receive, condescension and ridicule.
Retard.
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names?
No, I've had wonderfully civil discussions here across the political spectrum.
But when you spout intellectually bankrupt verbal diarrhea like this:
Creating jobs would get people independent again and not having to rely on government. That is not what the Dems want and they just proved it by refusing the payroll tax cut because the bill contained - gasp - something that would get people back to work.
...you don't deserve civil discussion. You deserve, and receive, condescension and ridicule.
Retard.
Agreed: The Keystone pipeline--Obama threatened to veto if it was in the bill--well it was--and the 2 month extension they want--is so they can bring up class warfare in a couple of months again. REAL PRIVATE sector job growth is the enemy of this administrations agenda.
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Bullshit--there's nothing wrong with the title of this thread--that is exactly what happened and Democrats just pulled one of their cut and run routines. THEY'RE not there--they LEFT--they went on Christmas break.
The GOP sent the Senate a clean bill extending the payroll tax cut?
Really?
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Bullshit--there's nothing wrong with the title of this thread--that is exactly what happened and Democrats just pulled one of their cut and run routines. THEY'RE not there--they LEFT--they went on Christmas break.
"That's exactly what happened?"
They ask for a clean tax break extension, and receive back a tax break extension PLUS an unrelated go-ahead for a controversial project whose feasability is currently under debate... And to you, "Democrats say NO to 1 year extension on payroll tax cut" is "Exactly what happened?"
Like I said... Retarded.
The GOP sent the Senate a clean bill extending the payroll tax cut?
Really?
Well the GOP did add in the Keystone pipeline--actually a bill that actually CREATES private sector jobs without costing taxpayers a dime. Maybe that's what democrats and Obama didn't like--
Real private sector job growth would inhibit Obama's insatiable appetite to expand the size and scope of the Federal Government.
The GOP sent the Senate a clean bill extending the payroll tax cut?
Really?
Well the GOP did add in the Keystone pipeline--actually a bill that actually CREATES private sector jobs without costing taxpayers a dime. Maybe that's what democrats and Obama didn't like--
Real private sector job growth would inhibit Obama's insatiable appetite to expand the size and scope of the Federal Government.
And there's no reason you left that out of the OP when asking "what is it they don't like" or why two months rather than a year, huh?
Agreed: The Keystone pipeline--Obama threatened to veto if it was in the bill--well it was--and the 2 month extension they want--is so they can bring up class warfare in a couple of months again. REAL PRIVATE sector job growth is the enemy of this administrations agenda.
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names? I believe that sinking to that level during a debate is to make up for the fact that one doesn't have anything of substance to say. You know you've won the argument when the opposition either storms off mad, is rendered silent or resorts to name calling.
The Dems just voted down extensions for a year. To do so because they don't want a job creating plan is unacceptable. I think they would rather do some creative math and make the unemployment appear lower, when we know it really isn't, than to actually get people back to work. Obama has stated that capitalism has never worked and he supports the OWS who held a sea of signs calling for socialism. It stands to reason that they would want desperate people running to government for aid. That is the boost Obama needs to fundamentally change America. When he stated he wanted to do that, he meant capitalism into socialism and that is becoming crystal clear. No more denying.
His policies have been very unfriendly to capitalism. He has increased the number of people on welfare and hasn't done anything that would encourage job creation in the private sector. Healthcare alone is a job killer because it turns each employee into a huge burdern for employers. I don't think that was by accident. He doesn't like capitalism and he has stated in the past he has issues with our constitution, namely that it gives too much power to the people and not enough to government.
The biggest lie he ever told was when he took the oath of office and promise to uphold and defend our constitution. He has no intention of doing that and he's made it clear with his own words. Can't blame TOTUS for that.
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names? I believe that sinking to that level during a debate is to make up for the fact that one doesn't have anything of substance to say. You know you've won the argument when the opposition either storms off mad, is rendered silent or resorts to name calling.
The Dems just voted down extensions for a year. To do so because they don't want a job creating plan is unacceptable. I think they would rather do some creative math and make the unemployment appear lower, when we know it really isn't, than to actually get people back to work. Obama has stated that capitalism has never worked and he supports the OWS who held a sea of signs calling for socialism. It stands to reason that they would want desperate people running to government for aid. That is the boost Obama needs to fundamentally change America. When he stated he wanted to do that, he meant capitalism into socialism and that is becoming crystal clear. No more denying.
His policies have been very unfriendly to capitalism. He has increased the number of people on welfare and hasn't done anything that would encourage job creation in the private sector. Healthcare alone is a job killer because it turns each employee into a huge burdern for employers. I don't think that was by accident. He doesn't like capitalism and he has stated in the past he has issues with our constitution, namely that it gives too much power to the people and not enough to government.
The biggest lie he ever told was when he took the oath of office and promise to uphold and defend our constitution. He has no intention of doing that and he's made it clear with his own words. Can't blame TOTUS for that.
Nobody is saying NO to the pipeline. They're just saying it needs more studying.
And nobody knows how many jobs will be created....
But TransCanada numbers count each job on a yearly basis. If the pipeline employs 10,000 people working for two years, that's 20,000 jobs by the company's count.
The estimates also include jobs in Canada, where about a third of the $7 billion pipeline would be constructed.
Meanwhile, one study from Cornell University said the pipeline could actually lead to a decline in jobs in the long run. One reason is that the pipeline would lead to higher fuel prices in the Midwest, the study said, and that would slow consumer spending and cost jobs.
Keystone pipeline: How many jobs it would really create - Dec. 13, 2011
I don't know enough about the pipeline to pretend I'm for or against it - but let it stand on its own merits. Enough of this grimy bullshit.
As a result of the weenies in Washington playing games, the Middle Class takes a hit. Yay.
You're retarded. Both of you.
A sharp drop in UE would guarantee his re-election. How by any metric would that not be in his best interests?
Your thread title is disingenuous. Pubs shouldn't need to use this as a bargaining chip. They should be in favor of a tax cut to begin with.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names? I believe that sinking to that level during a debate is to make up for the fact that one doesn't have anything of substance to say. You know you've won the argument when the opposition either storms off mad, is rendered silent or resorts to name calling.
The Dems just voted down extensions for a year. To do so because they don't want a job creating plan is unacceptable. I think they would rather do some creative math and make the unemployment appear lower, when we know it really isn't, than to actually get people back to work. Obama has stated that capitalism has never worked and he supports the OWS who held a sea of signs calling for socialism. It stands to reason that they would want desperate people running to government for aid. That is the boost Obama needs to fundamentally change America. When he stated he wanted to do that, he meant capitalism into socialism and that is becoming crystal clear. No more denying.
His policies have been very unfriendly to capitalism. He has increased the number of people on welfare and hasn't done anything that would encourage job creation in the private sector. Healthcare alone is a job killer because it turns each employee into a huge burdern for employers. I don't think that was by accident. He doesn't like capitalism and he has stated in the past he has issues with our constitution, namely that it gives too much power to the people and not enough to government.
The biggest lie he ever told was when he took the oath of office and promise to uphold and defend our constitution. He has no intention of doing that and he's made it clear with his own words. Can't blame TOTUS for that.
Clemintine. I hoped what you gleaned from the responses you got about civillity is this... You don't owe a single liberal on this board civillity. You've have to give back in great measure that which they try to feed you. They will at some point call for civillity but don't be fooled by that. They just gotta reap what they sow.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names? I believe that sinking to that level during a debate is to make up for the fact that one doesn't have anything of substance to say. You know you've won the argument when the opposition either storms off mad, is rendered silent or resorts to name calling.
The Dems just voted down extensions for a year. To do so because they don't want a job creating plan is unacceptable. I think they would rather do some creative math and make the unemployment appear lower, when we know it really isn't, than to actually get people back to work. Obama has stated that capitalism has never worked and he supports the OWS who held a sea of signs calling for socialism. It stands to reason that they would want desperate people running to government for aid. That is the boost Obama needs to fundamentally change America. When he stated he wanted to do that, he meant capitalism into socialism and that is becoming crystal clear. No more denying.
His policies have been very unfriendly to capitalism. He has increased the number of people on welfare and hasn't done anything that would encourage job creation in the private sector. Healthcare alone is a job killer because it turns each employee into a huge burdern for employers. I don't think that was by accident. He doesn't like capitalism and he has stated in the past he has issues with our constitution, namely that it gives too much power to the people and not enough to government.
The biggest lie he ever told was when he took the oath of office and promise to uphold and defend our constitution. He has no intention of doing that and he's made it clear with his own words. Can't blame TOTUS for that.
Clemintine. I hoped what you gleaned from the responses you got about civillity is this... You don't owe a single liberal on this board civillity. You've have to give back in great measure that which they try to feed you. They will at some point call for civillity but don't be fooled by that. They just gotta reap what they sow.
You're the least civil perhaps on the entire board, and you don't even have the excuse of testosterone or being young and immature - fail.
Is there something in the liberal handbook about always lowering yourself to call people names? I believe that sinking to that level during a debate is to make up for the fact that one doesn't have anything of substance to say. You know you've won the argument when the opposition either storms off mad, is rendered silent or resorts to name calling.
The Dems just voted down extensions for a year. To do so because they don't want a job creating plan is unacceptable. I think they would rather do some creative math and make the unemployment appear lower, when we know it really isn't, than to actually get people back to work. Obama has stated that capitalism has never worked and he supports the OWS who held a sea of signs calling for socialism. It stands to reason that they would want desperate people running to government for aid. That is the boost Obama needs to fundamentally change America. When he stated he wanted to do that, he meant capitalism into socialism and that is becoming crystal clear. No more denying.
His policies have been very unfriendly to capitalism. He has increased the number of people on welfare and hasn't done anything that would encourage job creation in the private sector. Healthcare alone is a job killer because it turns each employee into a huge burdern for employers. I don't think that was by accident. He doesn't like capitalism and he has stated in the past he has issues with our constitution, namely that it gives too much power to the people and not enough to government.
The biggest lie he ever told was when he took the oath of office and promise to uphold and defend our constitution. He has no intention of doing that and he's made it clear with his own words. Can't blame TOTUS for that.
Clemintine. I hoped what you gleaned from the responses you got about civillity is this... You don't owe a single liberal on this board civillity. You've have to give back in great measure that which they try to feed you. They will at some point call for civillity but don't be fooled by that. They just gotta reap what they sow.
You're the least civil perhaps on the entire board, and you don't even have the excuse of testosterone or being young and immature - fail.
The GOP sent the Senate a clean bill extending the payroll tax cut?
Really?
One this one I tend to agree with the GOP.
However, I also tend to think the economic impact of the Keystone XL is overstated. The conservative The Economist stated that the jobs created would more than likely be temporary as the pipeline moves from state-to-state. But in the same breath, the environmental impact would be marginal (except if the pipeline were to be sabotaged or leak on it's own).
"The irony of all this is that the pipeline is not nearly as important as either its defenders or critics make it out to be. On the one hand, America already imports plenty of oil from the tar sands. The impact on the environment of pressing ahead (and on energy security, for that matter) would be marginal at best. On the other hand, the economic boost from building the pipeline would be marginal too. Most of the jobs it would create would be temporary ones, in construction. The states across which the pipeline will run already have the lowest unemployment rates in the nation. And none of them is likely to plump for Mr Obama in next years electionmaking the local politics marginal too."
Tar sands and the environment: Keystone cop-out | The Economist
Taking all of this into account, I have to side with the GOP and their approach to the legislation.
The GOP sent the Senate a clean bill extending the payroll tax cut?
Really?
The wouldn't send them clean food if given the chance, let alone a clean bill.
Clemintine. I hoped what you gleaned from the responses you got about civillity is this... You don't owe a single liberal on this board civillity. You've have to give back in great measure that which they try to feed you. They will at some point call for civillity but don't be fooled by that. They just gotta reap what they sow.
You're the least civil perhaps on the entire board, and you don't even have the excuse of testosterone or being young and immature - fail.
The only excuse I work on is the un civility of the left wing retarded lunatic asswiping dipshits.
