Democrats... Rejecting John F. Kennedy

[DarkFury]

Just a little

Here is Kennedy's economic agenda in the New Frontier:

1. The addition of a temporary thirteen-week supplement to jobless benefits,
2. The extension of aid to the children of unemployed workers,
3. The redevelopment of distressed areas,
4. An increase in Social Security payments and the encouragement of earlier retirement,
5. An increase in the minimum wage and an extension in coverage,
6. The provision of emergency relief to feed grain farmers, and
7. The financing of a comprehensive homebuilding and slum clearance program.

Now let's hear all you RWnuts pretend that is your agenda.

1. 13 weeks fine... 99 weeks not so much, a better economy with plenty of well paying jobs would be best.
2. we all pay for it and support it
3. Democrats have full control of most inner city slums and their results are dismal.
4. both parties.
5. Wages are between the employer and the employee but I have no problem with a reasonable minimum wage.
6 ?
7. You can see the results in the Democrat Party controlled inner city slums.

How about this? When was the last time you heard a democrat care this much about our SECURITY? I LIVED through this. He WOULD be CONSERVATIVE today and damn PROUD to be one.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nowadays the Democratic Party would consider Kennedy a homophobic, right wing, bible thumping moron.


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JFK would be a conservative in America today.

Really?

Kennedy called his agenda/program the New Frontier.

New Frontier - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Convince us that is the conservative agenda of today.

Here's five minutes that should nail it down. Think Obama/Hillary and democrats when you hear it. Oh and he DIRECTLY talks about the first.

I proved you wrong. Now shut up.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Kennedy and the 'welfare state':

Welfare

• Unemployment and welfare benefits were expanded.[27]
• In 1961, Social Security benefits were increased by 20% and provision for early retirement was introduced, enabling workers to retire at the age of sixty-two while receiving partial benefits.[28]
• The Social Security Amendments of 1961 permitted male workers to elect early retirement age 62, increased minimum benefits, liberalized the benefit payments to aged widow, widower, or surviving dependent parent, and also liberalized eligibility requirements and the retirement test.[29]
• The 1962 amendments to the Social Security Act authorized the federal government to reimburse states for the provision of social services.[30]
• The School Lunch Act was amended for authority to begin providing free meals in poverty-stricken areas.[5]
• A pilot food stamp program was launched (1961), covering six areas in the United States. In 1962, the program was extended to eighteen areas, feeding 240,000 people.[31]
• Various school lunch and school milk programs were extended, “enabling 700,000 more children to enjoy a hot school lunch and eighty-five thousand more schools, child care centers, and camps to receive fresh milk”.[31]
• ADC was extended to whole families (1961).[32]
• Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) replaced the Aid to Dependent Children (ADC) program, as coverage was extended to adults caring for dependent children.[31]
• A major revision of the public welfare laws was carried out, with a $300 million modernisation which emphasised rehabilitation instead of relief”.[6]
• A temporary antirecession supplement to unemployment compensation was introduced.[6]
• Food distribution to needy Americans was increased.[6] In January 1961, the first executive order issued by Kennedy mandated that the Department of Agriculture increase the quantity and variety of foods donated for needy households. This executive order represented a shift in the Commodity Distribution Programs’ primary purpose, from surplus disposal to that of providing nutritious foods to low-income households.[33]
• Social Security benefits were extended to an additional five million Americans.[27]
• The Self-Employed Individuals Tax Retirement Act (1962) provided self-employed people with a tax postponement for income set aside in qualified pension plans.[29]
• The Public Welfare Amendments of 1962 provided for greater Federal sharing in the cost of rehabilitative services to applicants, recipients, and persons likely to become applicants for public assistance. It increased the Federal share in the cost of public assistance payments, and permitted the States to combine the various categories into one category. The amendments also made permanent the 1961 amendment which extended aid to dependent children to cover children removed from unsuitable homes.[29]
• Federal funds were made available for the payment of foster care costs for AFDC-eligible children who had come into state custody.[34]
• An act was approved (1963) which extended for one year the period during which responsibility for the placement and foster care of dependent children, under the program of aid to families with dependent children under Title IV of the Social Security Act.[29]
• Federal civil service retirement benefits were index-linked to changes in the Consumer Price Index (1962).

Any conservatives here on board that agenda?

Who voted these programs into existence and who actually agreed on the legislation... only Democrats...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Kennedy and the 'welfare state':

Welfare

• Unemployment and welfare benefits were expanded.[27]
• In 1961, Social Security benefits were increased by 20% and provision for early retirement was introduced, enabling workers to retire at the age of sixty-two while receiving partial benefits.[28]
• The Social Security Amendments of 1961 permitted male workers to elect early retirement age 62, increased minimum benefits, liberalized the benefit payments to aged widow, widower, or surviving dependent parent, and also liberalized eligibility requirements and the retirement test.[29]
• The 1962 amendments to the Social Security Act authorized the federal government to reimburse states for the provision of social services.[30]
• The School Lunch Act was amended for authority to begin providing free meals in poverty-stricken areas.[5]
• A pilot food stamp program was launched (1961), covering six areas in the United States. In 1962, the program was extended to eighteen areas, feeding 240,000 people.[31]
• Various school lunch and school milk programs were extended, “enabling 700,000 more children to enjoy a hot school lunch and eighty-five thousand more schools, child care centers, and camps to receive fresh milk”.[31]
• ADC was extended to whole families (1961).[32]
• Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) replaced the Aid to Dependent Children (ADC) program, as coverage was extended to adults caring for dependent children.[31]
• A major revision of the public welfare laws was carried out, with a $300 million modernisation which emphasised rehabilitation instead of relief”.[6]
• A temporary antirecession supplement to unemployment compensation was introduced.[6]
• Food distribution to needy Americans was increased.[6] In January 1961, the first executive order issued by Kennedy mandated that the Department of Agriculture increase the quantity and variety of foods donated for needy households. This executive order represented a shift in the Commodity Distribution Programs’ primary purpose, from surplus disposal to that of providing nutritious foods to low-income households.[33]
• Social Security benefits were extended to an additional five million Americans.[27]
• The Self-Employed Individuals Tax Retirement Act (1962) provided self-employed people with a tax postponement for income set aside in qualified pension plans.[29]
• The Public Welfare Amendments of 1962 provided for greater Federal sharing in the cost of rehabilitative services to applicants, recipients, and persons likely to become applicants for public assistance. It increased the Federal share in the cost of public assistance payments, and permitted the States to combine the various categories into one category. The amendments also made permanent the 1961 amendment which extended aid to dependent children to cover children removed from unsuitable homes.[29]
• Federal funds were made available for the payment of foster care costs for AFDC-eligible children who had come into state custody.[34]
• An act was approved (1963) which extended for one year the period during which responsibility for the placement and foster care of dependent children, under the program of aid to families with dependent children under Title IV of the Social Security Act.[29]
• Federal civil service retirement benefits were index-linked to changes in the Consumer Price Index (1962).

Any conservatives here on board that agenda?

You operate under the false assumption that the right isn't willing to help the poor. Could not be further from the truth. Notice that he wanted the welfare program geared toward rehabilitation (welfare to work) and tax postponement for self-employed.

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

There is no problem using federal funds for necessities. The important thing is that we are actually solving the problems instead of throwing more and more money at it in a way that makes it bigger.

Too many people now ask what their country can do for them. They think they are entitled to receive without ever having to give back. That mentality is dangerous and the left loves it because people are addicted to government.

Please stop. Your bullshit is bad enough in it's normal phase.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Kennedy and the 'welfare state':

Welfare

• Unemployment and welfare benefits were expanded.[27]
• In 1961, Social Security benefits were increased by 20% and provision for early retirement was introduced, enabling workers to retire at the age of sixty-two while receiving partial benefits.[28]
• The Social Security Amendments of 1961 permitted male workers to elect early retirement age 62, increased minimum benefits, liberalized the benefit payments to aged widow, widower, or surviving dependent parent, and also liberalized eligibility requirements and the retirement test.[29]
• The 1962 amendments to the Social Security Act authorized the federal government to reimburse states for the provision of social services.[30]
• The School Lunch Act was amended for authority to begin providing free meals in poverty-stricken areas.[5]
• A pilot food stamp program was launched (1961), covering six areas in the United States. In 1962, the program was extended to eighteen areas, feeding 240,000 people.[31]
• Various school lunch and school milk programs were extended, “enabling 700,000 more children to enjoy a hot school lunch and eighty-five thousand more schools, child care centers, and camps to receive fresh milk”.[31]
• ADC was extended to whole families (1961).[32]
• Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) replaced the Aid to Dependent Children (ADC) program, as coverage was extended to adults caring for dependent children.[31]
• A major revision of the public welfare laws was carried out, with a $300 million modernisation which emphasised rehabilitation instead of relief”.[6]
• A temporary antirecession supplement to unemployment compensation was introduced.[6]
• Food distribution to needy Americans was increased.[6] In January 1961, the first executive order issued by Kennedy mandated that the Department of Agriculture increase the quantity and variety of foods donated for needy households. This executive order represented a shift in the Commodity Distribution Programs’ primary purpose, from surplus disposal to that of providing nutritious foods to low-income households.[33]
• Social Security benefits were extended to an additional five million Americans.[27]
• The Self-Employed Individuals Tax Retirement Act (1962) provided self-employed people with a tax postponement for income set aside in qualified pension plans.[29]
• The Public Welfare Amendments of 1962 provided for greater Federal sharing in the cost of rehabilitative services to applicants, recipients, and persons likely to become applicants for public assistance. It increased the Federal share in the cost of public assistance payments, and permitted the States to combine the various categories into one category. The amendments also made permanent the 1961 amendment which extended aid to dependent children to cover children removed from unsuitable homes.[29]
• Federal funds were made available for the payment of foster care costs for AFDC-eligible children who had come into state custody.[34]
• An act was approved (1963) which extended for one year the period during which responsibility for the placement and foster care of dependent children, under the program of aid to families with dependent children under Title IV of the Social Security Act.[29]
• Federal civil service retirement benefits were index-linked to changes in the Consumer Price Index (1962).

Any conservatives here on board that agenda?

Who voted these programs into existence and who actually agreed on the legislation... only Democrats...

What a stupid question. You people support none of that stuff, quit pretending. I caught you people in a lie and you're not going to weasel out of it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

Stop believing the right-wing dogma like this, and you'd have a chance of seeing clearly.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Nowadays the Democratic Party would consider Kennedy a homophobic, right wing, bible thumping moron.


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What is the relevance, if any, to the political scene of today?

That's where the rejection come in. You would agree that the Democrat Party of today is nothing like the Democratic Party of the Kennedy era. Tell your fellow Democrats, they don't seem to know.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Kennedy and the 'welfare state':

Welfare

• Unemployment and welfare benefits were expanded.[27]
• In 1961, Social Security benefits were increased by 20% and provision for early retirement was introduced, enabling workers to retire at the age of sixty-two while receiving partial benefits.[28]
• The Social Security Amendments of 1961 permitted male workers to elect early retirement age 62, increased minimum benefits, liberalized the benefit payments to aged widow, widower, or surviving dependent parent, and also liberalized eligibility requirements and the retirement test.[29]
• The 1962 amendments to the Social Security Act authorized the federal government to reimburse states for the provision of social services.[30]
• The School Lunch Act was amended for authority to begin providing free meals in poverty-stricken areas.[5]
• A pilot food stamp program was launched (1961), covering six areas in the United States. In 1962, the program was extended to eighteen areas, feeding 240,000 people.[31]
• Various school lunch and school milk programs were extended, “enabling 700,000 more children to enjoy a hot school lunch and eighty-five thousand more schools, child care centers, and camps to receive fresh milk”.[31]
• ADC was extended to whole families (1961).[32]
• Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) replaced the Aid to Dependent Children (ADC) program, as coverage was extended to adults caring for dependent children.[31]
• A major revision of the public welfare laws was carried out, with a $300 million modernisation which emphasised rehabilitation instead of relief”.[6]
• A temporary antirecession supplement to unemployment compensation was introduced.[6]
• Food distribution to needy Americans was increased.[6] In January 1961, the first executive order issued by Kennedy mandated that the Department of Agriculture increase the quantity and variety of foods donated for needy households. This executive order represented a shift in the Commodity Distribution Programs’ primary purpose, from surplus disposal to that of providing nutritious foods to low-income households.[33]
• Social Security benefits were extended to an additional five million Americans.[27]
• The Self-Employed Individuals Tax Retirement Act (1962) provided self-employed people with a tax postponement for income set aside in qualified pension plans.[29]
• The Public Welfare Amendments of 1962 provided for greater Federal sharing in the cost of rehabilitative services to applicants, recipients, and persons likely to become applicants for public assistance. It increased the Federal share in the cost of public assistance payments, and permitted the States to combine the various categories into one category. The amendments also made permanent the 1961 amendment which extended aid to dependent children to cover children removed from unsuitable homes.[29]
• Federal funds were made available for the payment of foster care costs for AFDC-eligible children who had come into state custody.[34]
• An act was approved (1963) which extended for one year the period during which responsibility for the placement and foster care of dependent children, under the program of aid to families with dependent children under Title IV of the Social Security Act.[29]
• Federal civil service retirement benefits were index-linked to changes in the Consumer Price Index (1962).

Any conservatives here on board that agenda?

Who voted these programs into existence and who actually agreed on the legislation... only Democrats...

What a stupid question. You people support none of that stuff, quit pretending. I caught you people in a lie and you're not going to weasel out of it.

Sorry your angry but you failed, Should I explain how the legislative branch of the federal government works?...

 

[DarkFury]

Nowadays the Democratic Party would consider Kennedy a homophobic, right wing, bible thumping moron.


View attachment 40362

JFK would be a conservative in America today.

Really?

Kennedy called his agenda/program the New Frontier.

New Frontier - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Convince us that is the conservative agenda of today.

Here's five minutes that should nail it down. Think Obama/Hillary and democrats when you hear it. Oh and he DIRECTLY talks about the first.

I proved you wrong. Now shut up.

JFK and RWR would have had beers together LAUGHING at today's liberals the gutless spineless sackless morally lacking perverted pandering welfare sucking uneducated mentally backward Walmart shopping cart pushers that democrats are today.

A party FAT with it's fat ass union bosses who do NOTHING but rape companies. Lazy NON tax paying riot starting FAKE preachers. Drug Addicts and Cyber Perverts. NOT a one of YOU NOT A ONE could march in a MLK protest today. HE would NOT have you! Did YOU see MLK march FOR the HOMO? NO and one very SOLID reason why. VALUES MORALS ETHICS.

You know what idiot? JFK did not leave the party when he died. But you have DAMN SURE left him. For that you should TRULY be ashamed. JFK died at the hands of a leftist a communist. MLK died at the hands of a democrat.

THEY NEVER left YOU. You left them. THAT really tells me just how dirty and nasty YOU are willing to get. YOU have given up EVERY value EVERY moral EVERY ethic for YOUR GREED.
You democrats are just trash. Walking sacks of trash.

 

[Lumpy 1]

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

Stop believing the right-wing dogma like this, and you'd have a chance of seeing clearly.

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

Stop believing the right-wing dogma like this, and you'd have a chance of seeing clearly.

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

Go grow the fuck up.

 

[Lumpy 1]

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

Stop believing the right-wing dogma like this, and you'd have a chance of seeing clearly.

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

Go grow the fuck up.

That was far more adolescent than grown up but I doubt you know the difference....

 

[DarkFury]

Kennedy and the 'welfare state':

Welfare

• Unemployment and welfare benefits were expanded.[27]
• In 1961, Social Security benefits were increased by 20% and provision for early retirement was introduced, enabling workers to retire at the age of sixty-two while receiving partial benefits.[28]
• The Social Security Amendments of 1961 permitted male workers to elect early retirement age 62, increased minimum benefits, liberalized the benefit payments to aged widow, widower, or surviving dependent parent, and also liberalized eligibility requirements and the retirement test.[29]
• The 1962 amendments to the Social Security Act authorized the federal government to reimburse states for the provision of social services.[30]
• The School Lunch Act was amended for authority to begin providing free meals in poverty-stricken areas.[5]
• A pilot food stamp program was launched (1961), covering six areas in the United States. In 1962, the program was extended to eighteen areas, feeding 240,000 people.[31]
• Various school lunch and school milk programs were extended, “enabling 700,000 more children to enjoy a hot school lunch and eighty-five thousand more schools, child care centers, and camps to receive fresh milk”.[31]
• ADC was extended to whole families (1961).[32]
• Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) replaced the Aid to Dependent Children (ADC) program, as coverage was extended to adults caring for dependent children.[31]
• A major revision of the public welfare laws was carried out, with a $300 million modernisation which emphasised rehabilitation instead of relief”.[6]
• A temporary antirecession supplement to unemployment compensation was introduced.[6]
• Food distribution to needy Americans was increased.[6] In January 1961, the first executive order issued by Kennedy mandated that the Department of Agriculture increase the quantity and variety of foods donated for needy households. This executive order represented a shift in the Commodity Distribution Programs’ primary purpose, from surplus disposal to that of providing nutritious foods to low-income households.[33]
• Social Security benefits were extended to an additional five million Americans.[27]
• The Self-Employed Individuals Tax Retirement Act (1962) provided self-employed people with a tax postponement for income set aside in qualified pension plans.[29]
• The Public Welfare Amendments of 1962 provided for greater Federal sharing in the cost of rehabilitative services to applicants, recipients, and persons likely to become applicants for public assistance. It increased the Federal share in the cost of public assistance payments, and permitted the States to combine the various categories into one category. The amendments also made permanent the 1961 amendment which extended aid to dependent children to cover children removed from unsuitable homes.[29]
• Federal funds were made available for the payment of foster care costs for AFDC-eligible children who had come into state custody.[34]
• An act was approved (1963) which extended for one year the period during which responsibility for the placement and foster care of dependent children, under the program of aid to families with dependent children under Title IV of the Social Security Act.[29]
• Federal civil service retirement benefits were index-linked to changes in the Consumer Price Index (1962).

Any conservatives here on board that agenda?

You operate under the false assumption that the right isn't willing to help the poor. Could not be further from the truth. Notice that he wanted the welfare program geared toward rehabilitation (welfare to work) and tax postponement for self-employed.

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

There is no problem using federal funds for necessities. The important thing is that we are actually solving the problems instead of throwing more and more money at it in a way that makes it bigger.

Too many people now ask what their country can do for them. They think they are entitled to receive without ever having to give back. That mentality is dangerous and the left loves it because people are addicted to government.

Please stop. Your bullshit is bad enough in it's normal phase.

"Please Stop?" That's a good sign. Go ahead and feel free to turn and run. It means conservatives TOOK this ground {thread} and that's good.

WE expect to take a LOT more in the future so go ahead turn and run. We ARE still coming.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

Stop believing the right-wing dogma like this, and you'd have a chance of seeing clearly.

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

Go grow the fuck up.

That was far more adolescent than grown up but I doubt you know the difference....

Sweetcheeks, here I am the grownup. Stop replaying the same dogma. It doesn't hunt.

 

[Lumpy 1]

There is no argument when it comes to helping the poor. Biggest difference between the parties is that one wants to actually get people out of poverty instead of keeping them there to ensure votes.

Stop believing the right-wing dogma like this, and you'd have a chance of seeing clearly.

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

Go grow the fuck up.

That was far more adolescent than grown up but I doubt you know the difference....

Sweetcheeks, here I am the grownup. Stop replaying the same dogma. It doesn't hunt.

Grown up ..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Stop believing the right-wing dogma like this, and you'd have a chance of seeing clearly.

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

Go grow the fuck up.

That was far more adolescent than grown up but I doubt you know the difference....

Sweetcheeks, here I am the grownup. Stop replaying the same dogma. It doesn't hunt.

Grown up

Nope, dumbass.
grownup - definition of grownup by The Free Dictionary

 

[HenryBHough]

Today's Democrats would even have Harry S Truman, one of their own (once upon a time) up on war crimes charges. You must understand, it's so very, very wrong to win a war!

 

[HenryBHough]

"Groan" seems to fit better in most instances above.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Today's Democrats would even have Harry S Truman, one of their own (once upon a time) up on war crimes charges. You must understand, it's so very, very wrong to win a war!

Using crimes against humanity to win, yep.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

Go grow the fuck up.

That was far more adolescent than grown up but I doubt you know the difference....

Sweetcheeks, here I am the grownup. Stop replaying the same dogma. It doesn't hunt.

Grown up

Nope, dumbass.
grownup - definition of grownup by The Free Dictionary

Go live in the Democratic Party controlled slums of the inner cities, send your kids to the Democrat Party controlled schooling, buy some drugs that the Democratic Party turns a blind eye to.

Go grow the fuck up.

That was far more adolescent than grown up but I doubt you know the difference....

Sweetcheeks, here I am the grownup. Stop replaying the same dogma. It doesn't hunt.

Grown up

Nope, dumbass.
grownup - definition of grownup by The Free Dictionary