Democrats Instigating Destruction

[PoliticalChic]

1. The proximate cause of riots in Ferguson and Baltimore was police action...but we are regularly told that the rage has been simmering for decades.

If police-involved deaths were the match, the fuel for the explosion has been poverty, unemployment and discrimination.
Or....so we have been told.
Over and over.
The facts are very different.




2. Crime data for blacks contradicts widespread beliefs as to causes of same, e.g., poverty, unemployment and discrimination. First fact: prior to the decade of the 60’s, crime among black and white Americans was declining. It was after the historic civil rights that black riots in the urban ghettos began.

And the riots did not begin where blacks were poorest and most oppressed, the South. There were 34 deaths in Watts, and more, 43 in black riots in Detroit two years later.

a.While Detroit had the worst riots, the poverty rate among Detroit’s blacks was only half of that of blacks nationally….and its homeownership rate among blacks was the highest in the nation, - and black unemployment rate was 3.4%,- lower than among whites nationally! So the riots were hardly based on economic factors.

b. The riots following the death of Martin Luther King resulted in Chicago Mayor Daley issuing a highly publicized ‘shoot to kill’ order. Denounced by many, but the result was that deaths from riots in Chicago were a fraction of what they were in cities like Detroit where more humane and sympathetic expressions were used and the police restrained.

c. The most urban ghetto riots occurred during the Johnson administration; there was not one major urban riot during th entire eight years of the Reagan administration."
"Economic Facts and Fallacies," by Thomas Sowell, chapter six





Where, then, should we look for the instigation, the incitement, the impetus for the racial violence that is making its return?

3. The venues in which we find the violence is wholly owned and operated by Liberals, Progressives, Democrats.

And it is these elites who, sotto voce, push for the kind of anarchy we are witnessing.
From the start of his presidency, Barack Obama gave a cue as to how his 'amen corner' should view police.

"I wasn't there....but the police acted stupidly."




And so it began.

 

[Wildman]

blacks have no one to blame but themselves, anyone wanting to get ahead and become a model citizen and EARN a good living for their families is an education, ghetto blacks do not see it that way, burn, rape, steal is what has been ingrained by the RICH blacks who keep telling them whitey is holding them in their ghetto state.

 

[JakeStarkey]

A flame OP, this belongs in the Flame Zone. So requested.

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. Did Obama have a hand in fanning the smoldering embers in the case of Ferguson?
You betcha'!


Obama met with protest leaders:

"Some of the national leaders met with President Obama on Nov. 5 for a gathering that included a conversation about Ferguson.

According to the Rev. Al Sharpton, who has appeared frequently in St. Louis with the Brown family and delivered a speech at Mr. Brown’s funeral, Mr. Obama “was concerned about Ferguson staying on course in terms of pursuing what it was that he knew we were advocating. He said he hopes that we’re doing all we can to keep peace.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/u...html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1



With whom is the President standing shoulder to shoulder?


Sure looks like another "I wasn't there....but the police acted stupidly."


The Food-Stamp President is also the Anti-Police President.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality: Jarvis DeBerry

...In September 2014 The Baltimore Sun published a series called "Undue Force" about the brutality of the police in Baltimore and the millions of dollars those unjustified actions have cost the city: $5.7 million since 2011.

Here's an excerpt:


Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson.

Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.

And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims — if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him — a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was "shocked."

Such beatings, in which the victims are most often African-Americans, carry a hefty cost. They can poison relationships between police and the community, limiting cooperation in the fight against crime, the mayor and police officials say.

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality Jarvis DeBerry NOLA.com

 

[Toronado3800]

Is there a neg rep button anymore?

Blacks should be protesting even more than they are. Different tactics and different places for sure, but man, white America has sickened me.

Far as the Presidential timing, that is interesting. MAYBE they feel safer rioting with a perceived friendly in the White House? PROBABLY it is random. Neither Bush or Obama had much trickle down effect on the racial aspects of police work. Obama has been Bush W like in regards to Homeland Insecurity / loss of rights, but that is not what ignited the protests.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality: Jarvis DeBerry

...In September 2014 The Baltimore Sun published a series called "Undue Force" about the brutality of the police in Baltimore and the millions of dollars those unjustified actions have cost the city: $5.7 million since 2011.

Here's an excerpt:


Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson.

Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.

And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims — if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him — a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was "shocked."

Such beatings, in which the victims are most often African-Americans, carry a hefty cost. They can poison relationships between police and the community, limiting cooperation in the fight against crime, the mayor and police officials say.

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality Jarvis DeBerry NOLA.com

An unexpected verification of the OP>

The OP specifically states that it is the Democrat rabble rousers who are the problem....not racism.

My point exactly....as you have inadvertently admitted.

So....contrary to the claims of Democrat elites....the problems of Baltimore are not racial....

"Baltimore is not Ferguson and its primary problems are not racial. The mayor, city council president, police chief, top prosecutor, and many other city leaders are black, as is half of Baltimore’s 3,000-person police force. The city has many prominent black churches and a line of black civic leadership extending back to Frederick Douglass."What you really need to know about Baltimore from a reporter who s lived there for over 30 years - The Washington Post

 

[PoliticalChic]

Is there a neg rep button anymore?

Blacks should be protesting even more than they are. Different tactics and different places for sure, but man, white America has sickened me.

Far as the Presidential timing, that is interesting. MAYBE they feel safer rioting with a perceived friendly in the White House? PROBABLY it is random. Neither Bush or Obama had much trickle down effect on the racial aspects of police work. Obama has been Bush W like in regards to Homeland Insecurity / loss of rights, but that is not what ignited the protests.

What a truly ignorant post.

 

[Stephanie]

Yes this is ALL being planned and Brought down on you the people by Democrats with Obama's blessing. the sooner you wake to this the better. Here's a "professional sign" in this oh so spontaneous protesting that struck me as odd. take a good look:

Brought to you BY: SEIU

 

[Katzndogz]

A black mayor. A black police chief. All but six on the city council are black. Majority black police chief. Majority black population. The problem really can't be white racism.

 

[Dot Com]

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality: Jarvis DeBerry

...In September 2014 The Baltimore Sun published a series called "Undue Force" about the brutality of the police in Baltimore and the millions of dollars those unjustified actions have cost the city: $5.7 million since 2011.

Here's an excerpt:


Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson.

Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.

And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims — if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him — a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was "shocked."

Such beatings, in which the victims are most often African-Americans, carry a hefty cost. They can poison relationships between police and the community, limiting cooperation in the fight against crime, the mayor and police officials say.

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality Jarvis DeBerry NOLA.com

That had a to leave a mark (on PoliticalSpice [OP] )

 

[NYcarbineer]

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality: Jarvis DeBerry

...In September 2014 The Baltimore Sun published a series called "Undue Force" about the brutality of the police in Baltimore and the millions of dollars those unjustified actions have cost the city: $5.7 million since 2011.

Here's an excerpt:


Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson.

Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.

And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims — if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him — a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was "shocked."

Such beatings, in which the victims are most often African-Americans, carry a hefty cost. They can poison relationships between police and the community, limiting cooperation in the fight against crime, the mayor and police officials say.

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality Jarvis DeBerry NOLA.com

An unexpected verification of the OP>

The OP specifically states that it is the Democrat rabble rousers who are the problem....not racism.

My point exactly....as you have inadvertently admitted.

So....contrary to the claims of Democrat elites....the problems of Baltimore are not racial....

"Baltimore is not Ferguson and its primary problems are not racial. The mayor, city council president, police chief, top prosecutor, and many other city leaders are black, as is half of Baltimore’s 3,000-person police force. The city has many prominent black churches and a line of black civic leadership extending back to Frederick Douglass."What you really need to know about Baltimore from a reporter who s lived there for over 30 years - The Washington Post

So black on black police brutality is okay?

Goddam! That's a good one.

 

[Edgetho]

A flame OP, this belongs in the Flame Zone. So requested.

coward

 

[NYcarbineer]

'Instigate' means incite someone to do something, especially something bad.

I think ANY quote by Obama that fairly translates into incitement to violence is in order here.

Got one?

 

[NYcarbineer]

A flame OP, this belongs in the Flame Zone. So requested.

coward

Can you quote the President inciting violence?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality: Jarvis DeBerry

...In September 2014 The Baltimore Sun published a series called "Undue Force" about the brutality of the police in Baltimore and the millions of dollars those unjustified actions have cost the city: $5.7 million since 2011.

Here's an excerpt:


Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson.

Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.

And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims — if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him — a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was "shocked."

Such beatings, in which the victims are most often African-Americans, carry a hefty cost. They can poison relationships between police and the community, limiting cooperation in the fight against crime, the mayor and police officials say.

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality Jarvis DeBerry NOLA.com

An unexpected verification of the OP>

The OP specifically states that it is the Democrat rabble rousers who are the problem....not racism.

My point exactly....as you have inadvertently admitted.

So....contrary to the claims of Democrat elites....the problems of Baltimore are not racial....

"Baltimore is not Ferguson and its primary problems are not racial. The mayor, city council president, police chief, top prosecutor, and many other city leaders are black, as is half of Baltimore’s 3,000-person police force. The city has many prominent black churches and a line of black civic leadership extending back to Frederick Douglass."What you really need to know about Baltimore from a reporter who s lived there for over 30 years - The Washington Post

So black on black police brutality is okay?

Goddam! That's a good one.

So Democrat elected officials stirring up hatred of law and order, the police, civil stability is OK?

That's a bad one.

 

[PoliticalChic]

'Instigate' means incite someone to do something, especially something bad.

I think ANY quote by Obama that fairly translates into incitement to violence is in order here.

Got one?

"'Instigate' means incite someone to do something, especially something bad."

I truly appreciate your support of the fact that I ALWAYS use words with precision.

 

[NYcarbineer]

From the start of his presidency, Barack Obama gave a cue as to how his 'amen corner' should view police.

"I wasn't there....but the police acted stupidly."




And so it began.

This is what the President 'incited' in the above matter:

"During an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show, Gates stated that relations between him and Crowley are amicable. He also revealed that he asked Crowley for a sample of his DNA and interestingly enough, he and Crowley are actually distant cousins and share a common Irish ancestor.[76] On the show, Gates stated that Crowley recently gave him the handcuffs used in the arrest. When asked what he would do with the handcuffs, Gates stated that he plans to donate the handcuffs to the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture"

and btw the police DID act VERY stupidly.

Henry Louis Gates arrest controversy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[NYcarbineer]

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality: Jarvis DeBerry

...In September 2014 The Baltimore Sun published a series called "Undue Force" about the brutality of the police in Baltimore and the millions of dollars those unjustified actions have cost the city: $5.7 million since 2011.

Here's an excerpt:


Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson.

Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.

And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims — if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him — a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was "shocked."

Such beatings, in which the victims are most often African-Americans, carry a hefty cost. They can poison relationships between police and the community, limiting cooperation in the fight against crime, the mayor and police officials say.

Baltimore has an ugly history of police brutality Jarvis DeBerry NOLA.com

An unexpected verification of the OP>

The OP specifically states that it is the Democrat rabble rousers who are the problem....not racism.

My point exactly....as you have inadvertently admitted.

So....contrary to the claims of Democrat elites....the problems of Baltimore are not racial....

"Baltimore is not Ferguson and its primary problems are not racial. The mayor, city council president, police chief, top prosecutor, and many other city leaders are black, as is half of Baltimore’s 3,000-person police force. The city has many prominent black churches and a line of black civic leadership extending back to Frederick Douglass."What you really need to know about Baltimore from a reporter who s lived there for over 30 years - The Washington Post

So black on black police brutality is okay?

Goddam! That's a good one.

So Democrat elected officials stirring up hatred of law and order, the police, civil stability is OK?

That's a bad one.

You've yet to name the Democrats who have incited the violence.

 

[Kondor3]

A flame OP, this belongs in the Flame Zone. So requested.

Why? The OP posits that Democrat policies and practices are responsible in large part for inner city Black unrest over the course of the past few decades, and it then goes on to support that assertion with substantive citations.