Democrats have used self-executing rule over a hundred times

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    Nah, I'm screwing with you USMB, it was the Republicans.

    The impeccable bipartisan pedigree of "deem and pass" - Healthcare Reform | Obama Health Care Plan - Salon.com

    So uh, conservatives, where has your outrage been for the last, oh I dunno, fifteen years? :confused:
     
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    They were wrong to use it, but had they used it to say privatize Social Security you might actually have a point
     
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    So because didn't use it on a large thing, that makes it okay?

    That's like saying, "well it's okay, they only robbed a house instead of a bank."

    You can admit in hindsight they were wrong, but this is the type of bullshit I'm talking about. Don't allow the RNC to string you along thinking they haven't pulled this bullshit either. Because odds are, they are the ones who were masters of it and the Dems took good notes.
     
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    No, it's not ok. It wasn't OK when R's did it and it's really not OK for Dems to use it to shred the Constitution
     
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    And I can't recall a piece of legislation nearly as great, as far-reaching, or as costly as the monstrosity now before us.

    So uh, Dog, where is the precedent for anything like this to be found in, oh I dunno, our FUCKING HISTORY!?
     
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    Did you notice anywhere in my comments on the story that I defended the Dems doing this?

    Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
    :eusa_eh:

    Edit: I don't want them doing it. The Republicans were wrong for doing it, as are the Dems. However, republicans need to stop acting like their shit don't stink. Because once the GOP gets back in power, they'll go right back to doing it and people like you will go quiet again.
     
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    I don't really give a shit if it's been done before or not. It should not be done NOW, with 1/6 of the economy at stake and a clear and very vocal majority of the populace squarely against it.

    This is not a piece of business-as-usual legislation where getting cute with the rules should even be considered, let alone defended with all this the lame-ass "the republians did it too" crap.
     
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    wah wah wah, karma can be a bitch sometimes
     
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    exactly....it is the scope of the use that is outrageous...while i don't agree with the procedure, scotus has ruled it in other circumstances to be constitutional, however, the facts of this circumstance could be unconstitutional as it has never been done on such a far reaching bill that is 1/6th of our economy....

    what is further pathetic is how chickenshit the dems are to put their name on this bill
     
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    You have to understand the nuances..

    When Republicans use it, they do it out of PATRIOTISM
    When Democrats use it, they do it out of SOCIALISM

    Its all about the labels
     

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