Democrats doubt they can even retake the House because of Obama

[Conservative]

Non-issue. The election is a year away. Once voters are reminded that it was the GOP that voted to dissolve Medicare and it was the TP obstruction that lead to the credit downgrade, I think voters will change their minds.

you're a lying sack of shit. There was never any vote to dissolve Medicare.

 

[Claudette]

Medicare needs to be reformed.

No one is saying get rid of it, just reform it.

Anyone who tries is immediately villified as trying to throw grandma off a cliff.

Having seniors eating catfood.

And oh yeah my fav. Kids starving in the streets.

Mediscare plus.

BTW I wonder if the voters will remember Barry and his Dems stealing 500 million or is that with a B, out of Medicare to fund that clusterfuck HC bill.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Non-issue. The election is a year away. Once voters are reminded that it was the GOP that voted to dissolve Medicare and it was the TP obstruction that lead to the credit downgrade, I think voters will change their minds.

Only in your hateful mind.

Why the fuck do you think democrats are falling out of favor with the general public??

It's because many hold the opinions of what you just asserted. That and Obama is a jackass..

The majority of Americans don't want what progressives are selling....

Obama promised people the moon and the stars and what they got could be arguably be deemed as a depression. You think that works in the favor of democrats????

If you believe you have the moon and the stars you're delusional...

It's apparent progressives are out of touch with reality.

And save the "the GOP did this and that" routine...

Progressives had the House and Senate for 2 fucking years - they had a super majority in which they could have moved mountains however they did nothing but put taxpayer money into the pockets of their voting base while the lifeblood of this economy continued to fail - the private sector.

The ironic part is all that money came from China - a country progressives claim to hate but every one of the buggers keeps Mao's little red book in their back pockets of their Walmart jeans made in China....

The leftist hypocrisy is stunning...

 

[grunt11b]

Really? You think it's more of an issue that some Dems are worried now, as opposed to the GOP who voted to dismantle Medicare and who prevented an orderly vote on the debt ceiling which resulted in a credit down grade?

Ok, sure.

Noone ever spoke of dismantling medicaire, at least not on the GOP side.

You really need to pay attention more.

And before you complain, I quoted your entire sentence, just like last time. Nothing wrong with that.

I do pay attention, which is how I know you're full of it. No Republican ever said anything about dismantling any entitlement programs. Have they spoke of reforming them so they can be sustainable? Yes, but not one has ever said anything about dismantling as you are quoted as accusing them of saying.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Non-issue. The election is a year away. Once voters are reminded that it was the GOP that voted to dissolve Medicare and it was the TP obstruction that lead to the credit downgrade, I think voters will change their minds.

you're a lying sack of shit. There was never any vote to dissolve Medicare.

April of this year. I know that's a long time ago. Paul Ryan's budget was voted on in the House. If signed into law, it would end Medicare as we know it and replace it with coupons called "premium support".

It passed 235-193 with no Democrats voting for it.

 

[DontBeStupid]

BTW I wonder if the voters will remember Barry and his Dems stealing 500 million or is that with a B, out of Medicare to fund that clusterfuck HC bill.

It's with a B and it wasn't stolen. The old Medicare Advantage was a kick back to doctors and hospitals. It reimbursed them at the going rate plus 12% (or was it 14%?). The Affordable Care Act ended that over payment and lumped many of the services Medicare Advantage provided into regular Medicare, thus SAVING $500B from Medicare.

I thought you guys were in favour of reducing spending. Why then do you hate it when Obama does it?

 

[DontBeStupid]

Obama promised people the moon and the stars and what they got could be arguably be deemed as a depression.

Sure you could argue that. You'd be incredibly wrong, but you could argue that.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Non-issue. The election is a year away. Once voters are reminded that it was the GOP that voted to dissolve Medicare and it was the TP obstruction that lead to the credit downgrade, I think voters will change their minds.

You can think that, but you're going to be sorely disappointed. This election will hinge entirely on the economy and it will not be any better at that point because Obama is a failure on economic policy. Nobody is going to give a rat's ass in November 2012 about the Paul Ryan plan, which never passed anyhow, and the only people who blame the tea party for the credit downgrade are fringe case moonbats like yourself who are completely out of touch with the average American voter.

You can stick a fork in the president because he's finished. Which ever Republican becomes the nominee will be the next president, for better or for worse.

 

[grunt11b]

Non-issue. The election is a year away. Once voters are reminded that it was the GOP that voted to dissolve Medicare and it was the TP obstruction that lead to the credit downgrade, I think voters will change their minds.

you're a lying sack of shit. There was never any vote to dissolve Medicare.

April of this year. I know that's a long time ago. Paul Ryan's budget was voted on in the House. If signed into law, it would end Medicare as we know it and replace it with coupons called "premium support".

It passed 235-193 with no Democrats voting for it.

So by changing it's name and calling it something else and it being more sustainable and that the same recipients who have it now would still enjoy....that's dismantling it?

 

[Conservative]

Non-issue. The election is a year away. Once voters are reminded that it was the GOP that voted to dissolve Medicare and it was the TP obstruction that lead to the credit downgrade, I think voters will change their minds.

you're a lying sack of shit. There was never any vote to dissolve Medicare.

April of this year. I know that's a long time ago. Paul Ryan's budget was voted on in the House. If signed into law, it would end Medicare as we know it and replace it with coupons called "premium support".

It passed 235-193 with no Democrats voting for it.

it would alter the program, not dissolve it, you lying sack of shit.

In defense of Paul Ryan's Medicare plan - Term Sheet

In short, Ryan (R-Wis), chairman of the House Budget Committee, would transform the program for Americans ages 65 and older from an open-ended entitlement that threatens to swamp the budget into a system that makes fixed payments to participants each year -- payments that would rise at a predetermined, predictable rate.

Ryan's vision of bringing the market to Medicare is the best choice in a world of poor alternatives.

In all the Ryan proposals, enrollees in the new regime would use the government's contribution to shop from a broad array of private insurance plans offered by a Medicare exchange. That system is modeled on the highly successful Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, where government workers choose from a wide variety of offerings, from deluxe fee-for-service plans to basic high-deductible programs.

The Ryan plan has another major strength: It will stop heaping a bigger and bigger Medicare burden onto younger taxpayers. Ryan is making a bold, wrenching choice that wins because it's less painful than all the others.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Non-issue. The election is a year away. Once voters are reminded that it was the GOP that voted to dissolve Medicare and it was the TP obstruction that lead to the credit downgrade, I think voters will change their minds.

you're a lying sack of shit. There was never any vote to dissolve Medicare.

April of this year. I know that's a long time ago. Paul Ryan's budget was voted on in the House. If signed into law, it would end Medicare as we know it and replace it with coupons called "premium support".

It passed 235-193 with no Democrats voting for it.

A) a bill has to pass BOTH the House and Senate and be signed into law by the president.

B) Democrats would rather die then see a "republican" sponsored bill be accepted into law.

C) Obama has asserted he would veto anything that comes from the House that passes the Senate and makes it to his desk.

Don't worry socialist - nothing republicans pass in the house will pass the Senate and even if a bill miraculously does your hateful president will veto it..

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Dontbestupid is the only leftie arguing against the proof of all the elections since the midterms. Dont be stupid. The writing is on the wall.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Obama promised people the moon and the stars and what they got could be arguably be deemed as a depression.

Sure you could argue that. You'd be incredibly wrong, but you could argue that.

Well I don't know what the fuck "hope and change" means but I'm certain it means something along the lines of prosperity...

I suppose union socialists are living fat... Obamas primary focal point was to ensure their prosperity while everyone else struggled...

remember this gem:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI]Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube[/ame]

Yes that dumb motherfucker promised socialism with his "hope and change" bullshit.

 

[Mr.Nick]

I suppose "Peggy Joseph" is further proof democrats buy votes via the promise of socialism in the USA.

 

[Conservative]

Obama promised people the moon and the stars and what they got could be arguably be deemed as a depression.

Sure you could argue that. You'd be incredibly wrong, but you could argue that.

Well I don't know what the fuck "hope and change" means but I'm certain it means something along the lines of prosperity...

I suppose union socialists are living fat... Obamas primary focal point was to ensure their prosperity while everyone else struggled...

remember this gem:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI]Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube[/ame]

Yes that dumb motherfucker promised socialism with his "hope and change" bullshit.

Someone should try to find that woman and see how many mortgage payments Obama made for her

 

[Conservative]

Dontbestupid is the only leftie arguing against the proof of all the elections since the midterms. Dont be stupid. The writing is on the wall.

DBS ran away after I bitch slapped him in post 30

 

[Avorysuds]

Just when the economy was starting to really recover the Republicans pulled the debt ceiling stunt.

They fucked us all yet again just to try and hurt Obamas re election chances.

This will be driven home and not forgotten.

You dont reward the people who crashed the world economy and then crashed the recovery by giving them control

Proving once again that you’re just a parody of that extreme fringe left wing.

TM, do you have to wear a bib to catch the drool when you talk by chance?

 

[DontBeStupid]

you're a lying sack of shit. There was never any vote to dissolve Medicare.

April of this year. I know that's a long time ago. Paul Ryan's budget was voted on in the House. If signed into law, it would end Medicare as we know it and replace it with coupons called "premium support".

It passed 235-193 with no Democrats voting for it.

it would alter the program, not dissolve it, you lying sack of shit.

Hey, fuck face, the current program allows seniors to get medical care while the government pays the bill. Under the Ryan plan, that would no longer happen. Seniors would have to go out and shop and buy coverage from a private insurer. Assuming any insurance company would give them a policy. The senior would then pay for it out of pocket, with the Government giving a coupon for a few thousand dollars to help. Those coupons would NOT increase as medical care costs increase, which means within a few years, seniors would be paying the majority of their premiums themselves.

How you can call that shit pile of a plan "Medicare" is beyond me. That's like going to the car dealership and trading in a Honda and the guy gives you a horse named Honda. What? Same names right? They must be the same thing!

Moron.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Dontbestupid you should change your name to dontbebaited. You fall for it every time. Lol

 

[Mr.Nick]

Just when the economy was starting to really recover the Republicans pulled the debt ceiling stunt.

They fucked us all yet again just to try and hurt Obamas re election chances.

This will be driven home and not forgotten.

You dont reward the people who crashed the world economy and then crashed the recovery by giving them control

Proving once again that you’re just a parody of that extreme fringe left wing.

TM, do you have to wear a bib to catch the drool when you talk by chance?

Progressives are bizarre in general.

Go back to the 60's/70's and their philosophy then with the SDS and Weathermen, they did a 180...

They wanted to destroy government now they are government, they wanted to destroy institutions of academics, now they claim they are academics..

Very hypocritical, however very dangerous.