Democrats Do This to Save Your Party!

JimBowie1958

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This guy has a winning set of ideas, and I hope to Gawd the Democrats are listening.

https://graphics.axios.com/pdf/e-de...aign=sendto_newslettertest&stream=top-stories

For example, fully 79% of voters in Senate battleground states agree that, “the rules of the economy today are rigged against average Americans, and America's working families need a better deal.” Eighty-five percent (85%) of those who voted for Hillary Clinton agree with this statement, but so do 74% of those who voted for Donald Trump (43% of whom strongly agree).

Indeed, more voters in the battleground states agree with this critique of the economy than a critique that says “the problem with the economy today is a big government that spends too much, taxes too much, and puts too many burdens on businesses.”

Similarly, a large majority of battleground state voters respond favorably to a statement of the premise and direction that define the Better Deal Economic Agenda, transcending partisanship even when the statement is explicitly described as coming from Democrats: ”Too many families in America today feel that the rules of the economy are rigged against them. Special interests have a strangle-hold on Washington—from the super-rich spending unlimited amounts of secret money to influence our elections, to the huge loopholes in our tax code that help corporations avoid paying taxes.

The basic bargain that hard-working men and women can keep a good job, make a decent living, and provide for their families is no longer attainable for too many people.

But it does not have to be this way.

If the government goes back to putting working families first, ahead of special interests, we can achieve a better deal for the American people that will raise their pay, lower their expenses, and prepare them for the future.” In the red states of Indiana, Montana, Missouri, North Dakota, and West Virginia, 73% express a favorable reaction to this statement of Democratic economic thinking, as do a similar proportion of voters in the purple states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Support for this Democratic approach withstands Republican criticisms that it would lead to bigger government, higher taxes, and more interference with free enterprise—a contention that only three in 10 voters find to be convincing.

National polling also shows the breadth of concern about excessive corporate power and its impacts. By two to one (67% to 33%), for example, Americans believe it is a bigger problem that “huge corporations and billionaires are using their political power to reduce competition, keep wages low, and get special tax breaks” than that “government is imposing too many job-killing regulations on businesses and taxing people too much.” Indeed, 86% of voters agree that, “our economy is increasingly dominated by a small number of very large corporations,” and most voters believe this leads to consequences that often affect them personally. Fifty-seven percent (57%) say it is true that President Trump and Republicans, “are driving up prices for consumers by allowing a few huge corporations to dominate our government and economy.”
The problem is that too many of the c o c kroaching leftist groups wont ever cooperate with such an agenda or else their corporoate donations would dry up
 
This guy has a winning set of ideas, and I hope to Gawd the Democrats are listening.

https://graphics.axios.com/pdf/e-de...aign=sendto_newslettertest&stream=top-stories

For example, fully 79% of voters in Senate battleground states agree that, “the rules of the economy today are rigged against average Americans, and America's working families need a better deal.” Eighty-five percent (85%) of those who voted for Hillary Clinton agree with this statement, but so do 74% of those who voted for Donald Trump (43% of whom strongly agree).

Indeed, more voters in the battleground states agree with this critique of the economy than a critique that says “the problem with the economy today is a big government that spends too much, taxes too much, and puts too many burdens on businesses.”

Similarly, a large majority of battleground state voters respond favorably to a statement of the premise and direction that define the Better Deal Economic Agenda, transcending partisanship even when the statement is explicitly described as coming from Democrats: ”Too many families in America today feel that the rules of the economy are rigged against them. Special interests have a strangle-hold on Washington—from the super-rich spending unlimited amounts of secret money to influence our elections, to the huge loopholes in our tax code that help corporations avoid paying taxes.

The basic bargain that hard-working men and women can keep a good job, make a decent living, and provide for their families is no longer attainable for too many people.

But it does not have to be this way.

If the government goes back to putting working families first, ahead of special interests, we can achieve a better deal for the American people that will raise their pay, lower their expenses, and prepare them for the future.” In the red states of Indiana, Montana, Missouri, North Dakota, and West Virginia, 73% express a favorable reaction to this statement of Democratic economic thinking, as do a similar proportion of voters in the purple states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Support for this Democratic approach withstands Republican criticisms that it would lead to bigger government, higher taxes, and more interference with free enterprise—a contention that only three in 10 voters find to be convincing.

National polling also shows the breadth of concern about excessive corporate power and its impacts. By two to one (67% to 33%), for example, Americans believe it is a bigger problem that “huge corporations and billionaires are using their political power to reduce competition, keep wages low, and get special tax breaks” than that “government is imposing too many job-killing regulations on businesses and taxing people too much.” Indeed, 86% of voters agree that, “our economy is increasingly dominated by a small number of very large corporations,” and most voters believe this leads to consequences that often affect them personally. Fifty-seven percent (57%) say it is true that President Trump and Republicans, “are driving up prices for consumers by allowing a few huge corporations to dominate our government and economy.”
The problem is that too many of the c o c kroaching leftist groups wont ever cooperate with such an agenda or else their corporoate donations would dry up
Personally, Jim, all I think they need to do is marginalize their most annoying representatives - the PC-consumed, Identity Politics-saturated, social justice warriors who turn people off with their ridiculous, narcissistic bullshit while insulting, mocking and attacking anyone who dares to disagree with them.

Maybe just distract them with shiny objects for a decade or so, let their hatred for this country fade away from public discourse like a bad fart, and the party can get back to where it should be. If they can do that, they'll be fine, and the GOP will have some real freakin' problems, short term and long term.
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The same hart group that had Hilary up by 11 points while he was leading a super PAC for her reelection. The same hart group that overweighted Dems in their polling. Bulletin. Donald trump already won on this stuff. Tell us something we don't already know.

Oh and did you know where the greatest concentration of corporate power is? In communication. Google, Facebook, apple, etc. democratic supporters all.
 
This guy has a winning set of ideas, and I hope to Gawd the Democrats are listening.

https://graphics.axios.com/pdf/e-de...aign=sendto_newslettertest&stream=top-stories

For example, fully 79% of voters in Senate battleground states agree that, “the rules of the economy today are rigged against average Americans, and America's working families need a better deal.” Eighty-five percent (85%) of those who voted for Hillary Clinton agree with this statement, but so do 74% of those who voted for Donald Trump (43% of whom strongly agree).

Indeed, more voters in the battleground states agree with this critique of the economy than a critique that says “the problem with the economy today is a big government that spends too much, taxes too much, and puts too many burdens on businesses.”

Similarly, a large majority of battleground state voters respond favorably to a statement of the premise and direction that define the Better Deal Economic Agenda, transcending partisanship even when the statement is explicitly described as coming from Democrats: ”Too many families in America today feel that the rules of the economy are rigged against them. Special interests have a strangle-hold on Washington—from the super-rich spending unlimited amounts of secret money to influence our elections, to the huge loopholes in our tax code that help corporations avoid paying taxes.

The basic bargain that hard-working men and women can keep a good job, make a decent living, and provide for their families is no longer attainable for too many people.

But it does not have to be this way.

If the government goes back to putting working families first, ahead of special interests, we can achieve a better deal for the American people that will raise their pay, lower their expenses, and prepare them for the future.” In the red states of Indiana, Montana, Missouri, North Dakota, and West Virginia, 73% express a favorable reaction to this statement of Democratic economic thinking, as do a similar proportion of voters in the purple states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Support for this Democratic approach withstands Republican criticisms that it would lead to bigger government, higher taxes, and more interference with free enterprise—a contention that only three in 10 voters find to be convincing.

National polling also shows the breadth of concern about excessive corporate power and its impacts. By two to one (67% to 33%), for example, Americans believe it is a bigger problem that “huge corporations and billionaires are using their political power to reduce competition, keep wages low, and get special tax breaks” than that “government is imposing too many job-killing regulations on businesses and taxing people too much.” Indeed, 86% of voters agree that, “our economy is increasingly dominated by a small number of very large corporations,” and most voters believe this leads to consequences that often affect them personally. Fifty-seven percent (57%) say it is true that President Trump and Republicans, “are driving up prices for consumers by allowing a few huge corporations to dominate our government and economy.”
The problem is that too many of the c o c kroaching leftist groups wont ever cooperate with such an agenda or else their corporoate donations would dry up
Personally, Jim, all I think they need to do is marginalize their most annoying representatives - the PC-consumed, Identity Politics-saturated, social justice warriors who turn people off with their ridiculous, narcissistic bullshit while insulting, mocking and attacking anyone who dares to disagree with them.

Maybe just distract them with shiny objects for a decade or so, let their hatred for this country fade away from public discourse like a bad fart, and the party can get back to where it should be. If they can do that, they'll be fine, and the GOP will have some real freakin' problems, short term and long term.
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"...let their hatred for this country fade away from public discourse like a bad fart."

That, sir, is a gem.
 
Personally, Jim, all I think they need to do is marginalize their most annoying representatives - the PC-consumed, Identity Politics-saturated, social justice warriors who turn people off with their ridiculous, narcissistic bullshit while insulting, mocking and attacking anyone who dares to disagree with them.

Maybe just distract them with shiny objects for a decade or so, let their hatred for this country fade away from public discourse like a bad fart, and the party can get back to where it should be. If they can do that, they'll be fine, and the GOP will have some real freakin' problems, short term and long term.
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And resume their role as the Clintonista, Corporate-Crony-Lite party?

Hillary Clintons networked control of the DNC and the Dem leadership broadcasts the simple fact that far more than just he SJW nutball wing is a problem for the Democrat elite.

The Elites of BOTH parties ARE the problem with the system, not just their lapdog special interest groups that make Congress forget about their voters.
 
This guy has a winning set of ideas, and I hope to Gawd the Democrats are listening.

https://graphics.axios.com/pdf/e-de...aign=sendto_newslettertest&stream=top-stories

For example, fully 79% of voters in Senate battleground states agree that, “the rules of the economy today are rigged against average Americans, and America's working families need a better deal.” Eighty-five percent (85%) of those who voted for Hillary Clinton agree with this statement, but so do 74% of those who voted for Donald Trump (43% of whom strongly agree).

Indeed, more voters in the battleground states agree with this critique of the economy than a critique that says “the problem with the economy today is a big government that spends too much, taxes too much, and puts too many burdens on businesses.”

Similarly, a large majority of battleground state voters respond favorably to a statement of the premise and direction that define the Better Deal Economic Agenda, transcending partisanship even when the statement is explicitly described as coming from Democrats: ”Too many families in America today feel that the rules of the economy are rigged against them. Special interests have a strangle-hold on Washington—from the super-rich spending unlimited amounts of secret money to influence our elections, to the huge loopholes in our tax code that help corporations avoid paying taxes.

The basic bargain that hard-working men and women can keep a good job, make a decent living, and provide for their families is no longer attainable for too many people.

But it does not have to be this way.

If the government goes back to putting working families first, ahead of special interests, we can achieve a better deal for the American people that will raise their pay, lower their expenses, and prepare them for the future.” In the red states of Indiana, Montana, Missouri, North Dakota, and West Virginia, 73% express a favorable reaction to this statement of Democratic economic thinking, as do a similar proportion of voters in the purple states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Support for this Democratic approach withstands Republican criticisms that it would lead to bigger government, higher taxes, and more interference with free enterprise—a contention that only three in 10 voters find to be convincing.

National polling also shows the breadth of concern about excessive corporate power and its impacts. By two to one (67% to 33%), for example, Americans believe it is a bigger problem that “huge corporations and billionaires are using their political power to reduce competition, keep wages low, and get special tax breaks” than that “government is imposing too many job-killing regulations on businesses and taxing people too much.” Indeed, 86% of voters agree that, “our economy is increasingly dominated by a small number of very large corporations,” and most voters believe this leads to consequences that often affect them personally. Fifty-seven percent (57%) say it is true that President Trump and Republicans, “are driving up prices for consumers by allowing a few huge corporations to dominate our government and economy.”
The problem is that too many of the c o c kroaching leftist groups wont ever cooperate with such an agenda or else their corporoate donations would dry up

ya... thanks for your concern.

I have a better idea.... drop your wing nuts in favor of real republicans.
 
This set of maps of the 2016 election should be convincing enough for rational people.

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Dems, you can grasp the point still, right?
 
Its too late....they embraced everything most American's oppose....gay marriage, abortion, war on religion, affirmative action, Obamacare, and on and on.
 
Its too late....they embraced everything most American's oppose....gay marriage, abortion, war on religion, affirmative action, Obamacare, and on and on.
A coming shift in the economy downward for most working people due to the Robotics Revolution will change all that.
 
Its too late....they embraced everything most American's oppose....gay marriage, abortion, war on religion, affirmative action, Obamacare, and on and on.
A coming shift in the economy downward for most working people due to the Robotics Revolution will change all that.

Jim, Honestly I don't see that happening....they said the same things 30 years ago. The good thing that has come out of using robotics is eliminating jobs nobody wants to do, but its not cheap. My dad worked at a paper plate & cup factory....they invested millions into automation and lost their ass due to frequent malfunctions and costly repairs. They would sit and wait hours for the team of mechanics to arrive and fix the machines. The factory closed within 2 years and solo came in and bought them out for pennies on the dollar.
 
Personally, Jim, all I think they need to do is marginalize their most annoying representatives - the PC-consumed, Identity Politics-saturated, social justice warriors who turn people off with their ridiculous, narcissistic bullshit while insulting, mocking and attacking anyone who dares to disagree with them.

Maybe just distract them with shiny objects for a decade or so, let their hatred for this country fade away from public discourse like a bad fart, and the party can get back to where it should be. If they can do that, they'll be fine, and the GOP will have some real freakin' problems, short term and long term.
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And resume their role as the Clintonista, Corporate-Crony-Lite party?

Hillary Clintons networked control of the DNC and the Dem leadership broadcasts the simple fact that far more than just he SJW nutball wing is a problem for the Democrat elite.

The Elites of BOTH parties ARE the problem with the system, not just their lapdog special interest groups that make Congress forget about their voters.
Well, I'm definitely not saying that marginalizing the crazies would cure all the party's ills. Both parties are operating under a system that allows for, and enables their elites. The problem is, this issue doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, so the public pretty much doesn't care. And the elites sure as hell aren't going to allow for any changes.

My point was more about increasing their electoral success.
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The polling makes it pretty clear that if Democrats would return to being a party that champions the Middle Class they win hands down.

So why dont they?
 
But is it too little too late?

Associated Press

Democratic leaders believe they lost to President Donald Trump partly because voters don't know what the party stands for. So they're trying to rebrand themselves with a new slogan and a populist new agenda as they look ahead to the 2018 midterms.

It's called "A Better Deal" and House and Senate Democratic leaders are rolling it out Monday afternoon in Berryville, Virginia. They're intentionally traveling outside the Beltway, and into the district of one of the GOP House members they hope to defeat next year, Barbara Comstock.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California, along with other top House and Senate Democrats, are making the presentation after months of internal debate and analysis of polling and focus groups.

Democrats think of themselves as the party of working people and were surprised when Trump was able to steal working-class voters from them. They subsequently figured out that voters don't know what the party stands for, and the new effort is aimed at changing that.

Schumer acknowledged on Sunday that Democrats were partially to blame for the American people not knowing what the party stands for.

"When you lose an election with someone who has, say, 40 percent popularity, you look in the mirror and say what did we do wrong? And the number one thing that we did wrong is we didn't have -- we didn't tell people what we stood for," Schumer said on ABC's "This Week."​
 

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